What it comes down to is, skill will never increase your DoT.
Do not use full +2, ever.
Which Nin Tp Set?
Which Nin Tp Set?
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
What it comes down to is, skill will never increase your DoT.
Do not use full +2, ever.
Do not use full +2, ever.
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
What it comes down to is, skill will never increase your DoT.
Do not use full +2, ever.
Do not use full +2, ever.
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
What it comes down to is, skill will never increase your DoT.
Do not use full +2, ever.
Do not use full +2, ever.
Or just use +1 Dusk and Byakko's. Just because it has a blue box, does not mean it is the best to use. People need to get over this mentality.
dusk+1 and byakko's will still give less accuracy than +2.
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
dusk+1 and byakko's will still give less accuracy than +2.
Sylph.Nikia said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Or just use +1 Dusk and Byakko's. Just because it has a blue box, does not mean it is the best to use. People need to get over this mentality.
It isnt the blue box that makes me want it, it is all the stats that you get. such as tactical parry which does help some even if a small amount as well as DA rate.
I just asked on BG and no one knows yet it seems but I thought i recall seeing that Iga set is 10%DA? each item being 2% then??
If that is remotely true then I have trouble seeing my TP gain being that far behind a DW/haste set. Again i could be mistaken so dont get all hardcore hateful if i am.
Sylph.Nikia said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Or just use +1 Dusk and Byakko's. Just because it has a blue box, does not mean it is the best to use. People need to get over this mentality.
It isnt the blue box that makes me want it, it is all the stats that you get. such as tactical parry which does help some even if a small amount as well as DA rate.
I just asked on BG and no one knows yet it seems but I thought i recall seeing that Iga set is 10%DA? each item being 2% then??
If that is remotely true then I have trouble seeing my TP gain being that far behind a DW/haste set. Again i could be mistaken so dont get all hardcore hateful if i am.
Pretty sure set procs are 5% with 5/5. Atleast Warrior's is from what I've read about it.
Sylph.Nikia said:
DoT means nothing if your dead, can't hold hate and running after the enemy to smack it or voking to regain hate. How about having to spam utsu because you didnt debuff it. All small points but if added together will effect DoT. Skill matters and always will.
How does any of that have to do with what you're TPing in?
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Sylph.Nikia said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Or just use +1 Dusk and Byakko's. Just because it has a blue box, does not mean it is the best to use. People need to get over this mentality.
It isnt the blue box that makes me want it, it is all the stats that you get. such as tactical parry which does help some even if a small amount as well as DA rate.
I just asked on BG and no one knows yet it seems but I thought i recall seeing that Iga set is 10%DA? each item being 2% then??
If that is remotely true then I have trouble seeing my TP gain being that far behind a DW/haste set. Again i could be mistaken so dont get all hardcore hateful if i am.
It's believed to be 10% DA on offhand hits only with the full set. It's also believed that the final piece of the set adds a much greater portion of that bonus, so with 4/5 you'd have probably 3-4% DA rate.
As for 25 vs 26% haste; with the full af3+2 and tiercel, you get 252/1024 or 254/1024 (not sure of the exact value for the two 7% pieces). That means worst case scenario (if 7% = 70/1024) you are 4/1024 (or ~0.4%) below haste cap. If 7% = 71/1024 (which I think is more likely due to the other known values) you'd be 2/1024 (or ~0.2%) below haste cap.
Yeah uh... you deserve to burn for tossing aside +2 head. That thing is quite possibly the single most valuable piece of gear that ninjas have.
Full +2 has use against some high-end NM's. Using RCB and:
I found my accuracy kind of lame against Bennu, Orthrus, and even Shaula. Switching to:
Gives you 35-40 accuracy and there definitely was a noticeable difference.
Full +2 has use against some high-end NM's. Using RCB and:
I found my accuracy kind of lame against Bennu, Orthrus, and even Shaula. Switching to:
Gives you 35-40 accuracy and there definitely was a noticeable difference.
Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Sylph.Nikia said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Or just use +1 Dusk and Byakko's. Just because it has a blue box, does not mean it is the best to use. People need to get over this mentality.
It isnt the blue box that makes me want it, it is all the stats that you get. such as tactical parry which does help some even if a small amount as well as DA rate.
I just asked on BG and no one knows yet it seems but I thought i recall seeing that Iga set is 10%DA? each item being 2% then??
If that is remotely true then I have trouble seeing my TP gain being that far behind a DW/haste set. Again i could be mistaken so dont get all hardcore hateful if i am.
Pretty sure set procs are 5% with 5/5. Atleast Warrior's is from what I've read about it.
Shiva.Msthief said:
Yeah uh... you deserve to burn for tossing aside +2 head. That thing is quite possibly the single most valuable piece of gear that ninjas have.
Full +2 has use against some high-end NM's. Using RCB and:
I found my accuracy kind of lame against Bennu, Orthrus, and even Shaula. Switching to:
Gives you 35-40 accuracy and there definitely was a noticeable difference.
Full +2 has use against some high-end NM's. Using RCB and:
I found my accuracy kind of lame against Bennu, Orthrus, and even Shaula. Switching to:
Gives you 35-40 accuracy and there definitely was a noticeable difference.
Sylph.Nikia said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Sylph.Nikia said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Or just use +1 Dusk and Byakko's. Just because it has a blue box, does not mean it is the best to use. People need to get over this mentality.
It isnt the blue box that makes me want it, it is all the stats that you get. such as tactical parry which does help some even if a small amount as well as DA rate.
I just asked on BG and no one knows yet it seems but I thought i recall seeing that Iga set is 10%DA? each item being 2% then??
If that is remotely true then I have trouble seeing my TP gain being that far behind a DW/haste set. Again i could be mistaken so dont get all hardcore hateful if i am.
It's believed to be 10% DA on offhand hits only with the full set. It's also believed that the final piece of the set adds a much greater portion of that bonus, so with 4/5 you'd have probably 3-4% DA rate.
As for 25 vs 26% haste; with the full af3+2 and tiercel, you get 252/1024 or 254/1024 (not sure of the exact value for the two 7% pieces). That means worst case scenario (if 7% = 70/1024) you are 4/1024 (or ~0.4%) below haste cap. If 7% = 71/1024 (which I think is more likely due to the other known values) you'd be 2/1024 (or ~0.2%) below haste cap.
I would love to see a practical parse showing TP race to 100% VS the Full+2 set and Mixed set. I cant do it since i dont have usu feet, however I imagine the true real world difference is small and would depend of other factors like JA/spell usage for example.
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
No one tossed aside +2 head? At all? And if you need more accuracy, use food. Use Stalwarts, use Innin, use Agg. No reason to have low Acc.
Let's take a look at the OP's first set.
I see a Zelus over +2 head.
As to using food, that's your choice. I don't know the numbers, but I find 150 attack extremely useful - especially against those high end mobs. As someone who lowman multiboxes everything, I don't have a stalwarts to burn everytime I want to do a NM. Ok so let's say you use Innin and Aggressor, I highly doubt you'll be at the eva cap before OR after so you'll be having to recast shadows more often. Again, no math, but you have to admit all that extra casting will hurt your DOT.
Msthief, as far as the OP disregarding the AF3+2 head, about 4 posts or so down he said "oh i didn't know that it enhanced DW as well....question answered" (or something to that affect... so that might be a lil moot at this point. I think we all agree that the AF3+2 head is pretty darn beastly, even in a mixed set
Shiva.Msthief said:
I see a Zelus over +2 head.
As to using food, that's your choice. I don't know the numbers, but I find 150 attack extremely useful - especially against those high end mobs. As someone who lowman multiboxes everything, I don't have a stalwarts to burn everytime I want to do a NM. Ok so let's say you use Innin and Aggressor, I highly doubt you'll be at the eva cap before OR after so you'll be having to recast shadows more often. Again, no math, but you have to admit all that extra casting will hurt your DOT.
Should never give up gear slots for something you could get from food.
Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Shiva.Msthief said:
I see a Zelus over +2 head.
As to using food, that's your choice. I don't know the numbers, but I find 150 attack extremely useful - especially against those high end mobs. As someone who lowman multiboxes everything, I don't have a stalwarts to burn everytime I want to do a NM. Ok so let's say you use Innin and Aggressor, I highly doubt you'll be at the eva cap before OR after so you'll be having to recast shadows more often. Again, no math, but you have to admit all that extra casting will hurt your DOT.
Should never give up gear slots for something you could get from food.
I think that's overly simplistic. 150 attack is still 150 attack whether it comes from food or gear and is particularly useful when you're dealing with the NM's we have acc issues on.
Shiva.Msthief said:
Phoenix.Uzugami said:
Shiva.Msthief said:
I see a Zelus over +2 head.
As to using food, that's your choice. I don't know the numbers, but I find 150 attack extremely useful - especially against those high end mobs. As someone who lowman multiboxes everything, I don't have a stalwarts to burn everytime I want to do a NM. Ok so let's say you use Innin and Aggressor, I highly doubt you'll be at the eva cap before OR after so you'll be having to recast shadows more often. Again, no math, but you have to admit all that extra casting will hurt your DOT.
Should never give up gear slots for something you could get from food.
I think that's overly simplistic. 150 attack is still 150 attack whether it comes from food or gear and is particularly useful when you're dealing with the NM's we have acc issues on.
Was speaking in regards to accuracy, sorry kinda tired atm. If you're changing gear to fix accuracy issues, you're probably going to have accuracy issues on your WS's too. You could change sets around for that too, I guess. But that'd still be a huge drop in damage. When you could use accuracy food (read: Pizza) and keep your sets the same way with basicly same results, etc.
do you really get 150 att from pizza? (is that the food in question here?) why wouldnt you use pizza or sole sushi on a mob you're having acc issues on in the first place? I'm thoroughly confused now lol
4 hours
HP +25
Attack +21% (55 cap)
Accuracy +11%
Marinara Pizza +1. Not as much attack as other foods but if you have accuracy issues it's the best damn thing around<3
HP +25
Attack +21% (55 cap)
Accuracy +11%
Marinara Pizza +1. Not as much attack as other foods but if you have accuracy issues it's the best damn thing around<3
Red Curry Buns give 150 attack, I think you might be 130-140 without zerk but 150 sounds better :). The "unknown" amount from ws gorget and belt has been enough (anecdotally).
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