Which Nin Tp Set?

oh oh....ok, i definitely misunderstood ya there with the food argument... ok. Aren't those buns like MAD expensive? why not use bison steaks? I know they aren't like wtfomg amazing, but they are damn sure cheaper and not really that bad lol

60-80k per stack, which honestly is not that expensive. You could also use Hydra kofte to reach the same effect on a 3hour food.

idk, to me that always seemed like quite a bit, considering how easily one can die on a slip up *shrug*...true though about that hydra food

As Kirana said, it's not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Poor people will be poor, but if you're having this kind of a discussion price shouldn't be holding you back. For the record, I hold Yellow Curry Buns when I know I might die soon or am farming TW's.

The problem with kofte is that it's 20% and reaching 750 attack without food is pretty frickin hard even in abyssea.

On Shiva two koftes (six hours, equal to a stack of rcb) cost 50k. This compared to 60-65k for rcb. You're paying for the defense on the Kofte which could come in handy, but not when we're talking about straight dot.

The only problem with kofte is the hidden effect: you will die before 3 hours have passed. >_>

Correct me if I am wrong, but the debate at the moment is Full Iga+2, as opposed to mix and match. Wearing just Iga+2 will not give you much insight on anything, seeing as haste gets better as you stack on more.

I will go do a test on the same thing, and see what I get.

Edit: All of them are taken -.- Will try later I guess.

I think he's just trying to parse the set bonus proc rate.

As for kparser, the multiattacks tab is very buggy. First of all, it will not be able to tell the difference between set bonus procs and normal double attacks. Second of all, if you are swinging too fast it will not be able to tell the difference between one attack round and the next (which is why it thinks you were triple/quadruple attacking). If you want to parse the set bonus proc rate with kparser you will have to make sure you have 0% double attack, and dual wield some high delay weapons.

edit: the kick attacks thing is just there in case you happen to be parseing it for monk. All it does it count the number of rounds with +1 attack, and assumes they are kicks. In fact, seeing as the set bonus works just like kick attacks, the "kick attacks" section will give you the proper proc rate.

Late to the thread, but since when did capped haste become unimportant?

Seeing a lot of NINs tp in 5/5, most have Kannagi, but that's not saying much, much like the 6 hit Masamune & 8 hit Caladbolg owners on this server.

If you had parsed it correctly, the kick attacks would be showing the actual proc rate of the set bonus. However, because of how fast you were attacking, the parser screwed up and misscounted attack rounds. The data you gathered is possibly far off from correct.

Best approach for gathering data with kparser is to use high delay weapons, since it reads off the log and thus potentially sees rounds overlap. Offhanding the stage 1 relic katana would be perfect for separating attack rounds.

Believe it or not. The best tp set is what you have on your 2nd set.. but with usu feet.

I just wanna know from the. Peanut gallery if this is a good tp set up or if anyone reccomends any changes.

Iga+2/iga neck/suppa/brutal
AF1 chainmail/dusk/eponas/rajas
Atheling/twilight belt/iga+2/iga+2

I believe im actually 27% so one over...so any suggestions or just roll with this?
PS: i aimed for ocelot...0/4 with blue !! and th9 so i just gave up...is ocelot really worth it?

Nope. Good Benthic Typhoon piece, otherwise, not really.

Dusk +1 and either Byakko's Haidate with Crit damage augment, or Usu boots would be better.

Ok cool...thx ill aim to get some byakko tatters than since salvage is kinda outta the question.

Instead of making a new thread ...

I'm no career NIN, just a farming job and to help friends if need be.

Currently using this set:



I don't have access to full +2 yet, or Usu feet and I'm slightly over Haste cap but don't see many other obvious options. Would Loki body be better than NIN chainmail? I'm showing slightly higher numbers in FFXI-Calc with Loki's (not counting it's +crit/DEX/AGI bonuses).

Set with chainmail gives me:
Time to 100% TP after a 3-hit WS: 49.98 seconds @ 4.4tp/hit (21 hits + Jin)

With Loki's:
Time to 100% TP after a 3-hit WS: 49.78 seconds @ 4.8 tp/hit (19 hits + Jin)

So am I'm reading it correctly and I should be TP'ing in Loki's instead of chainmail? It's 0.2s faster to 100 TP and has +crit damage plus +11DEX/AGI. Finally got it last week after being only 1/24 on Turul, and getting out-lotted twice.

Nin. Chainmail +1 is a straight 10% increase in attack speed with trait + Iga Zukin +2 + Suppa, so there's a lot more to it than just increased TP gain. Chainmail with no BRD, Loki's with haste + marches until you get Iga +2 (and after if cRatio capped).

Thought ffxi-calc took into account the +dual wield from chainmail, or at least it seems to for me. My attack time gets faster when I put it on. If not my numbers above are off then.

Pure Math:
Dual wield: 35% from trait, 5% from suppa, 5% +2 head, 5% chainmail
Haste: 25% gear, 15% spell - No marches are assumed

New delay = Old delay * (1-DW) * (1-Haste)

Without chainmail: New delay = Old * (1-.45) * (1-.4) = Old * .33
With chainmail: New delay = Old * (1-.5) * (1-.4) = Old * .3

As mentioned, you attack roughly 10% slower with Loki's on over chainmail. Going from 19 to 21 is, roughly, a 10% difference. So in the end you're increasing your dot hit damage by 10% with a negligible difference in ws frequency.

By "higher numbers" do you mean you WS faster or does ffxi calc give you a DOT rating? Ninja is close to a 70:30 dot:ws ratio when it comes to overall damage - so it isn't as important to build around ws's like you do with 2h melees. If you're getting a higher overall damage rating, I have no idea how.

ugh, idk how to put on gear sets here

but it seems that having 22% haste and nusku's sash will outdo 26% w/ twilight...according to FFXIcalc

brb composing 4 hit tactical parry build with new update np

I was always under the impression nusku's builds were only under low haste situations.... please correct me if i'm wrong here

Nusku's sash is horrible, I can't think of a situation I'd ever want to use one in.

Well I did think about somehow making it into a hybrid set then couldn't figure out how to make it worth using...

i wouldn't be surprised, it probably favors whichever you have more of (dw or haste). low haste situations sounds right.