THF90 Evasions

Here is an evasion build I am working on. Any suggestions for improvement? Assume the Kilas are +AGI/evasion. Thanks!



Edit: Title is supposed to read "THF90 evasion set", but I'm sure you all got that.

If going for more perfect you'd want Emp+2 Feet, Alcide's Harness(+1) Body and the new evasion earring I forget the name of that is +7 and starts with Ph? Otherwise it seems nice.

Raider's Poulaines +2

There are some 'situational' pieces which could also be beneficial. For example, a HQ melody earring if you're going with a bard is useful. However, presuming that you are soloing, the set is a generally sound 'quick' build.

There may be some slightly more challenging items you could aim for, AF3+2 boots being one significant increase. These should also be rather simple to finish with a few friends or shout groups if you work on getting the triggers (there is always someone who needs MM).

Unfortunately, I'm no thf - hopefully others will have more direct suggestions. Best of luck.


Edit: Apparently I'm a slow typer...

Also You are probably over doing it.

Would even the Raider's Poulaines +1 be better than the +evasion skill boots?

Yes

Not only does AGI give an Eva boost, since the last update it gives Subtle Blow boost depending on how much AGI you have so, agi would be more beneficial.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11626/torero-torque

I'm hoping to get one of these eventually to replace evasion torque

I Lost lot no that the other day.

Drops from that Dumb Omega in uleg :\

heres my build works quite well

wat was the difference between 'evasion' and 'evasion skill' again?

I'm currently loosing interest in this set recently. I have almost capped eva solo / tank some things inside of Abyssea and see that my evasion is already high enough without any evasion gear on.

Am I the only one to "think" that we gain an new Evasion Bonus Tier (would be V) ? Like DRK got their Attack bonus and PLD Defense bonus.

There's some time I can't explain why I evade that much.

*edit*

So I'm more looking toward Subtle Blow / AGI.
Well recently, evasion gear offer also Subtle Blow, so no reason to not use it.

I've started tanking thf a bit lately. And granted it's mostly T1-2 NMs but I tend to evade just fine without slow/haste usually just using ichi unless it uses a tp move. And that's in full DD gear minus the 1-2 trial evasion daggers. And that's using full DD atmas usually though GH does help evasion a little. Occasionally I might set a evasion atma

Skill > evasion . but acording to what ive read.

for every 2 Agi = 1 evasion skill
for every 3 points of evasion gear = 1 point of evasion skill

while only evasion skill gear will change the actual numbers in the combat area of your menues. the rest is sort of a evasion skill modafier. aslo there is a evasion cap.

it is diffrent mob to mob but no matter how much evasion gear or stats you have you will stil lcap at a 80/20 ratio. 80% of the time it will miss you and 20% it will hit you easilly proven by going ands argoing a lvl 1 mob it will hit you for nothign but it will hit you.

so evasion skill gear vs evasion gear. get the evasion skill stuff first.

As far as I've known or been told, 2AGI ~ 1EVA the same way 2DEX ~ 1Acc (for 1 handers) and 2STR ~ 1 Attack, 2VIT ~ 1DEF, 2INT ~ 1MATK(roughly) etc etc.

Evasion Skill is like Combat Skills, I.E: usually equating to ~1acc/atk for their related skill changing slightly at higher skills.

Where as Evasion Skill roughly equates to ~1EVA against Physical attacks.

I've never heard your analogy of 3 Evasion = 1 Evasion Skill or 2AGI = 1 Evasion skill, and would at least like you to maybe provide some links or sources where you got this information? I'm curious as to these tests, cause it would mean a lot of people would need to seriously rework their EVA builds.

Items like Evasion Torque would be giving theoretically ~21 Evasion, making the Torero torque worthless except for Subtle Blow, Items like Boxers mantle giving ~30 Evasion, etc.

Just seems off.

I've actually seen alot of theories on evasion, evasion skill and agi. None of which I think got proven. One of the more intersting ones I saw was that evasion and evasion skill as a graph and vs evade rate. Basically both of them curved to show they added less and less to evade rate. Here was the interesting thing though agi modified the evasion graph somehow to make it better basically so that depending on agi given the same evade rate evasion could be better or worse than evasion skill.

While I agree I'm likely citing the most dumbed-down understanding of how AGI/EVA works.

2AGI = 1 Skill
1 Skill = 3 EVA

just seems off to me. I just hope he saved these tests or book-marked the page or something so i can read over it too.

Not that I have any idea on these things, but as I read that.. I thought it meant that 3 evasion would be as good as adding one skill.. not that it was literal as you're making it.

edit: nvm.. reading comprehension failure.

According to that, the way its worded, a piece of gear with AGI+2 is the same as something with evasion+1

That's like, Exactly what i said, Are you agreeing with me or attempting to point out something I said >.>?

he said 3 Evasion = 1 Evasion Skill is pretty basic.

I just assumed that would mean, simply, 1 Evasion Skill = 3 Evasion. Meaning 10 Evasion Skill = 30 Evasion.

How is that too literal =.=a its exactly what he said.

Edit: Maybe i should add qualifier words like "Equivalent" like... "Items like Boxer's mantle would theoretically give the Equivalent of an Item with +30 EVA"

Making it seem like "If this theory was correct that ~3 EVA was worth about as much as 1 Skill items with Evasion Skill would be worth almost 3 times their point value in normal Evasion".

I`m agreeing with you lol, idk why I quoted wiki, guess I'm just bored

Makes sense, actually. I still hold hopes this man will provide the information where he got this conclusion.

It would mean I might need to rethink my Evasion build if it proved to be true.

What about thf tankning atma? wht do u use?

Peresonally when solo/duo'ing on THF or DNC. I evade tank in TP/Haste gear and use Atma of Cloak and Dagger. Just enough for me on most NMs.

Actually, I was also thinking we may have got a new evasion bonus tier. I have capped evasion on my thief, but it just seems like I shouldn't be evading as much as I do. I don't even bother with some of my evasion gear sometimes and it's still more than enough against most nms I tank.