Hecatomb Questions

yeah cause other piece +1 doesn't give + 1 DEX ? osnap those +2 attack gonna make you a god.

/epeen moment off

LOL Fckin right! :p
I had a feeling you would find this xD
But Honestly tho, can u even believe some of these posts, i mean cmon, TPin in Heca lol
It shouldnt even be a question, Actually...... it shouldnt even be thought of!

<3 Fulgore lol

you should have saw me killing niddy today heca full time !

xD
Awesome lol

Actually... If you're fighting something that you don't want to feed a lot of tp to... /prepares to be flamed... Then TP'ing in heca isn't such a bad idea. It'll give a pretty significant boost to your melee damage, and slow down your swings ridiculously, giving extremely low tp to the mob. >.>

In theory that's not a bad idea. Unfortunately it will only affect TP gained gained over time to the mob. The only thing that lowers TP given to the mob is Subtle Blow, which in my opinion is a highly underestimated bonus. The only real downside is very few jobs contain the trait and the gear selection to use it is equally limited.

They're kinda one and the same. Subtle Blow allows you (MNK's especially I think) to continue a normal rate of damage while feeding less tp, wearing heca slows down your hits, but increases each hits damage to feed less tp. There's no reason you couldn't use cor subtle blow roll to this as well. Besides, the whole reason you want to slow down mob tp gain is so that you can effectively recover from each tp move in time for the next. I'm not actually going to bother trying this method for myself, because I think the amount it slows damage down would be kinda ludicrous. My only point was that it's not as totally inconceivable an idea as it may sound.

actually i turn back when i got tp, and screw you cause i lol'ed so hard i woke up my daughter

So this was the question.....

Usually most players use this Heca set for WS, especially for HNMs and gods because the DDs need to have a lot of str to break the vit of the mob or get it about even. This is mainly true on thf. The Hecatomb Harness is worth getting to make a lot of damage with your ws, however, you do NOT tp with this piece. Haste + Haste gear will return more tp than str+ or slow+. The only thing that affects tp gain is the delay on your weapon, thus why hornetneedle gives 5 TP and a tathanos baselard gives 6-7 tp.

Sub Sam tp feeding fixed.

tank fail

Idk why this confuses me. Is there something I'm not getting?

SAM doesn't have Subtle Blow trait so why would that even help? SAM sub would just make you WS more often which (For multihit WSs) would give the mob a crap ton of TP (30~ TP from a four-hit WS).

This one went way over my head too, what?

Usually the reason that you want to avoid feeding tp is because you are fighting a mob with particularly nasty tp moves, ie Khimira, and while troublesome for the tanks, the real problem is having 5+ squishy DD taking that kind of damage.
Then they become a burden on the mages for both mp consumption for cures/raises and also in enm gain. Now, if you sub sam, your DD now have an alternate way to gain tp that not only feeds 0 tp to said mob, but also keeps them out of the no fun AOE zone. WIN / WIN.

Ahhh. Now with a bit of punctuation, or maybe an extra word or two, i'd have got that first time! =p