Do I Need A Raja's Ring?

Read carefully? You can't expect someone to refresh the page posting their response to see if you edited your post. Why not post more carefully?

Want to improve? Get Rajas

Want to be gimp? Keep Tamas


only thing that's further required of this thread, is an /endthread

+1

Please, please don't let people think that they should keep Tamas or pick it even if they have only 1 DD job and 4 mage jobs.

My edit was within their quote of my post so if they didn't see it they didn't read carefully.

You so obviously didn't read what I said in any of my posts. I said Rajas was a better choice from the start. LEARN TO READ.

this thread reminds me of this, saw this video like 10years ago.................

rajas ring....is....the 1 ring!!!!

If your DDs take enough damage for you to pull hate with cure spamming you need to get DDs who suck less and/or put fewer people on the mob.

Regardless of what you're saying (that Rajas is better, which it is), you're trying to create situations where Tamas is acceptable to own when there just aren't any. It's almost as worthless as Sattva.

I did read it, but you're still downplaying the huge gap between Rajas and Tamas.

You're basically saying, "rajas is better, BUT TAMAS IS GREAT FOR ENMITY DOWN AND SAVES SO MUCH ROOM. You can cure better while having reduced enmity! You can use it for high MP nukes! You can pretty much full time it as a mage and you'll be awesome!"

There's a huge gap between Rajas and Tamas. Why downplay it? Just be straight forward.

Are you a Taru? o.O?

I said it was better in capital letters... figured that was enough. I also said the closest thing to a Rajas pales in comparison. That's a rather particular verb.

Never said Tamas saves room in any of my posts. Never said anything about the mp. Never said to full-time it (I said curing, which I later elaborated to cure4s in particular). All I brought up was the enmity.

Edit: Also, I never said I had a GREAT reason regarding Tamas usefulness - just a reason.

off subject, theres a wyvern earring for sale , is it worth it for drk?

DRK Zerging is dead, my answer would be no.

Enmity is not a reason for Tamas.

If you're worried mnd, then use a mnd+6 ring.

Wow, really? Gonna sit there and bash me about using the 1 extra MND (SOFT FREAKING CURE CAPS) then you imply you should use pieces that give no MND or -MND if I'm worried about enmity.

Edit: Enmity and MND together are the reason for Tamas. No, not inventory saving reason but rather because you can only equip two rings so why would you not want the two together while curing PLUS having another ring slot still free. That's what I've been getting at.


Alright whatever I'm done... no one understands what I'm trying to say on here because if they did, they wouldn't be throwing 1MND in my face over and over again.

My point is, if you're going for max MND, you don't need Tamas.

If you're going for max enmity-, you don't need Tamas.

Enmity on Tamas should never be a factor.

I'm bashing you for not having Rajas, not anything else.

The people who think only about maxing out one stat at a time are rather silly. Sometimes you need more that one stat at a time. Notice I said stat not attribute.

Also, I don't have Tamas but I did have Serene's for RDM cure4 spam.

I was a main mage (WHM, RDM, BLM) before i quit and tossed my Tamas in order to get Rajas. Mainly to mess around on RDM in campaign, but was also nice to have for my THF, SAM + DRG which i barely played. There are tons of equal rings to macro in instead of fulltiming Tamas.

The point everyone else is making is that worrying about -3 enmity on your ring is stupid. Extraordinarily so when compared to the utility Rajas has.

Am I the only one that noticed Froggis is arguing for Tamas and has yet to complete CoP?(on that character atleast)

He has a Serene Ring yo~

No I haven't completed CoP. Not really invalidating my statements in the least. I never argued for Tamas. I gave a reason why someone might find it useful WHILE SAYING RAJAS WAS A BETTER CHOICE LIKE 50 TIMES.

edit: went back to bold the caps because it's apparently needed or you're all just being *** at this point, which really shouldn't be happening on a forum which is meant to offer help not *** comments about players rather than information.

Because of the many times that you'd not want Full Enmity- or Full Cure Potency or Max MP, right?

Edit@Froggis: You are arguing a fact of Tamas' "usefulness" when there is none, therefore you are arguing for Tamas. In no situation should someone with ANY DD job ever own anything other than a Rajas.

Pretty sure you said that, and everyone else argument is that Tamas is very replaceable.

Your supposed to catch the Sarcasm :(

Counter-sarcasm fail, was mocking the fact that Froggis said they would use a mix+match set for enmity+cure potency. :(

iPhail D;

One last time... I guess technically I did "argue for Tamas" by attempting to give a reason to own it. That being said, a thousand times over, I said Rajas was the better choice. Yes, that sounds illogical but if you think about it, it makes sense. 20 people posting the exact same thing while stating no new information is pointless. I attempted (and failed) to provide some kind of reason to use Tamas. You all just picked one portion of a post and just attacked and succeeded in murdering this thread and any chance that I'll ever post about anything again because should I say one misleading thing, I'll be attacked for hours thereafter. This is a forum for FFXI though, I'm naive for not assuming that from the get.

Rajas > whatever else

And I didn' read past Gradd's last post

Edit: on a serious note though, just like Tamas with its own attributes, if SE was to ever throw out 2 new rings with over 5 Stp Rajas's overwhelming status would start to crumble

And again we say; there is no reason to own Tamas if you have ANY DD job. It is completely replaceable. -3 enmity is not only useless in most situations, but trivial compared to other rings that also have -enmity. The MND and INT are not the best you can get, and were always equivalent to elemental rings. The MP is again inferior to other rings that offer more and cost you less comparatively (because picking Tamas costs you Rajas).

You cannot get 5sTP on another ring, let alone with 5STR. Rajas is, at this point in the game, irreplaceable, and with the other two choices being Tamas and Sattva, there is simply no reason to take either of them. This makes picking anything other than Rajas illogical.

There was, therefor, no reason to qualify "Rajas is best" with a comment on reasons to take Tamas, when simply no such reason exists. Statements as such only confuse the people asking for help, and lead to pigheaded arguments like this one.