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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-08-04 18:28:47
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Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
I'm not trying to make myself seem anything. People who have been here long enough know I'm a jackass, so congratulations on learning that for yourself. Now go back and read it and tell me where I'm wrong.
I don't have time to read all your *** since it's all opinions. Nothing about any religion is fact, it's all made up stories that can't be proven. Why would I waste time debating over religions with you? It's also painful to read what you type, it's like reading an autobiography about a person who is a, once again as I have already said, conceited jackass. So I'll pass. Peaceful religions and being a jackass don't go to together, so turn the other cheek and stfu like a good sheep, or write a response to this and prove my point.

Shut the *** up. Nothing I posted was an opinion. And who said I was a follower? The only cheek I'm turning to anyone is my 2nd asscheek after they are done kissing the first.

Its clear your not quite to the point where you can understand what us "big people" are talking about here, so why don't you drag your *** back to your room and play with some blocks or some ***.

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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-04 18:29:19
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Eh legalizing marihuNa brings other bad things. Lets adults smoke around children with out gettin in trouble, you want that around kids? Alcohol is bad enough when it gets out of control.

Yeah, when alcohol is around you get, pre,gnan,,cy.

Ohh,,yeeaah,.


so marihuana is the cause of pregnancy now? LOL.




Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
For the record, the California proposition to legalize marijuana, under the same laws as alcohol, is polling way ahead and is expected to pass in November.


oh yay. I hope they don't regalize it here :) personal reasons, but indeed it goes with the fact that it would let other people smoke around children and make it fine right?
 
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-04 18:31:59
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Phoenix.Darki said:
oh yay. I hope they don't regalize it here :) personal reasons, but indeed it goes with the fact that it would let other people smoke around children and make it fine right?
No, the crazy California anti-smoking rules would still apply. No smoking pot in restaurants, bars, schools, around kids, beaches, public spaces, etc.

Honestly in California these days, pretty much the only place you're still allowed to smoke is in your private home or car, and even then, you're not allowed to around kids in a confined space.
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-08-04 18:32:00
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Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
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I'm not trying to make myself seem anything. People who have been here long enough know I'm a jackass, so congratulations on learning that for yourself. Now go back and read it and tell me where I'm wrong.
I don't have time to read all your *** since it's all opinions. Nothing about any religion is fact, it's all made up stories that can't be proven. Why would I waste time debating over religions with you? It's also painful to read what you type, it's like reading an autobiography about a person who is a, once again as I have already said, conceited jackass. So I'll pass. Peaceful religions and being a jackass don't go to together, so turn the other cheek and stfu like a good sheep, or write a response to this and prove my point.

Shut the *** up. Nothing I posted was an opinion. And who said I was a follower? The only cheek I'm turning to anyone is my 2nd asscheek after they are done kissing the first.

Its clear your not quite to the point where you can understand what us "big people" are talking about here, so why don't you drag your *** back to your room and play with some blocks or some ***.


Well, I had some transformers to play with, but your "Big boy" *** took them all so now all I have is the internet.

You are similar to Pchan, you don't pull off *** properly. Glad yo see you are backsliding out of that "I'm a real smart guy hurr durr" typing, into a low grade insulting match. You lack the finesse and charisma to be anything. Stick to the transformer forums bro, I'm sure your a real Optimus prime up in that ***.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-04 18:33:15
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Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-04 18:34:12
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Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
I'm not trying to make myself seem anything. People who have been here long enough know I'm a jackass, so congratulations on learning that for yourself. Now go back and read it and tell me where I'm wrong.
I don't have time to read all your *** since it's all opinions. Nothing about any religion is fact, it's all made up stories that can't be proven. Why would I waste time debating over religions with you? It's also painful to read what you type, it's like reading an autobiography about a person who is a, once again as I have already said, conceited jackass. So I'll pass. Peaceful religions and being a jackass don't go to together, so turn the other cheek and stfu like a good sheep, or write a response to this and prove my point.

Shut the *** up. Nothing I posted was an opinion. And who said I was a follower? The only cheek I'm turning to anyone is my 2nd asscheek after they are done kissing the first.

Its clear your not quite to the point where you can understand what us "big people" are talking about here, so why don't you drag your *** back to your room and play with some blocks or some ***.


Well, I had some transformers to play with, but your "Big boy" *** took them all so now all I have is the internet.

You are similar to Pchan, you don't pull off *** properly. Glad yo see you are backsliding out of that "I'm a real smart guy hurr durr" typing, into a low grade insulting match. You lack the finesse and charisma to be anything. Stick to the transformer forums bro, I'm sure your a real Optimus prime up in that ***.
you both shut the *** up.
edit: Jaerik, you sniped it -_-
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-04 18:35:40
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.
Lol for some reason I read this as don't make me turn the car around. And I'm not even reading this thread
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-04 18:35:43
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oh yay. I hope they don't regalize it here :) personal reasons, but indeed it goes with the fact that it would let other people smoke around children and make it fine right?
No, the crazy California anti-smoking rules would still apply. No smoking pot in restaurants, bars, schools, around kids, beaches, public spaces, etc.

Honestly in California these days, pretty much the only place you're still allowed to smoke is in your private home or car, and even then, you're not allowed to around kids in a confined space.


then if thats how its going to be, legalize it away~
marihuana is pretty harmless to use IF under control.

It's going to get pricey~
and atleast you don't get your car taken away for the posession of maryjay.
just like it happened to my fwend...so lovely.

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over here you're not allowed to smoke anywhere or be in posession of maryjay. sends you straight into problems and if you are in posession of maryjay on your car it gets taken away ~.~ not sure about the house i think you go to jail for that one.
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-08-04 18:35:50
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Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
I'm not trying to make myself seem anything. People who have been here long enough know I'm a jackass, so congratulations on learning that for yourself. Now go back and read it and tell me where I'm wrong.
I don't have time to read all your *** since it's all opinions. Nothing about any religion is fact, it's all made up stories that can't be proven. Why would I waste time debating over religions with you? It's also painful to read what you type, it's like reading an autobiography about a person who is a, once again as I have already said, conceited jackass. So I'll pass. Peaceful religions and being a jackass don't go to together, so turn the other cheek and stfu like a good sheep, or write a response to this and prove my point.
Shut the *** up. Nothing I posted was an opinion. And who said I was a follower? The only cheek I'm turning to anyone is my 2nd asscheek after they are done kissing the first. Its clear your not quite to the point where you can understand what us "big people" are talking about here, so why don't you drag your *** back to your room and play with some blocks or some ***.
Well, I had some transformers to play with, but your "Big boy" *** took them all so now all I have is the internet. You are similar to Pchan, you don't pull off *** properly. Glad yo see you are backsliding out of that "I'm a real smart guy hurr durr" typing, into a low grade insulting match. You lack the finesse and charisma to be anything. Stick to the transformer forums bro, I'm sure your a real Optimus prime up in that ***.

The Strawman Fallacy. I'm glad to see your so good at it.
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-08-04 18:36:03
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.

God dammit jaerik, fine, but in my defense, you did start going off on how all religions are different, then it led into his ***. If he's gonna be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why can't I treat him like one? :/

On Topic:
This being passed is gonna cause an influx of people in cali for gay marriage and marijuana. There should at least be 10 states allowing this.

Edit: Topic ban him lolz.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-04 18:38:07
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Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.

God dammit jaerik, fine, but in my defense, you did start going off on how all religions are different, then it led into his ***. If he's gonna be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why can't I treat him like one? :/

On Topic:
This being passed is gonna cause an influx of people in cali for gay marriage and marijuana. There should at least be 10 states allowing this.
you both were being schmucks.
i used to have this map with the current status of legality for the states circa jan 2010.

don't know where it's at now.
edit: if he got topic banned you would as well SK, i'd say just shush with the antagonism for a bit lol.
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.

God dammit jaerik, fine, but in my defense, you did start going off on how all religions are different, then it led into his ***. If he's gonna be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why can't I treat him like one? :/

On Topic:
This being passed is gonna cause an influx of people in cali for gay marriage and marijuana. There should at least be 10 states allowing this.
you both were being schmucks.
i used to have this map with the current status of legality for the states circa jan 2010.

don't know where it's at now.
edit: if he got topic banned you would as well SK, i'd say just shush with the antagonism for a bit lol.

Awwwwww heeellllll naaaawwww! You jump in this ***just as much as me on most threads, don't even lmao.

Send me that map if you find it, and no, he was arguing after Jaerik's post, I wasn't. :P
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-08-04 18:41:18
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.
God dammit jaerik, fine, but in my defense, you did start going off on how all religions are different, then it led into his ***. If he's gonna be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why can't I treat him like one? :/ On Topic: This being passed is gonna cause an influx of people in cali for gay marriage and marijuana. There should at least be 10 states allowing this.
you both were being schmucks. i used to have this map with the current status of legality for the states circa jan 2010. don't know where it's at now. edit: if he got topic banned you would as well SK, i'd say just shush with the antagonism for a bit lol.

I beg to differ. I made a post to contribute. He responded by saying "lolz all religions is opinions". I asked him to tell me where I was wrong. He responded with "lolz transformers picture".

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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-04 18:41:48
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can we talk about gay people now?
I mean, legalizing gay marriage isn't bad, they aren't bad people, it's not their fault they like the same sex.

see it this way, they can't help it.
just like you can't help liking your favorite color, or your favorite food.
I mean, think about the thing you mostly like on this world, you just can't help it, they can't either. They didn't choose to like it, you know... it just happened :/
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-04 18:42:03
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<3 you both, but outta this thread until you can play nicely with each other. =D
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-04 18:42:44
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Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.

God dammit jaerik, fine, but in my defense, you did start going off on how all religions are different, then it led into his ***. If he's gonna be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why can't I treat him like one? :/

On Topic:
This being passed is gonna cause an influx of people in cali for gay marriage and marijuana. There should at least be 10 states allowing this.
you both were being schmucks.
i used to have this map with the current status of legality for the states circa jan 2010.

don't know where it's at now.
edit: if he got topic banned you would as well SK, i'd say just shush with the antagonism for a bit lol.

Awwwwww heeellllll naaaawwww! You jump in this ***just as much as me on most threads, don't even lmao.

Send me that map if you find it, and no, he was arguing after Jaerik's post, I wasn't. :P
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.
God dammit jaerik, fine, but in my defense, you did start going off on how all religions are different, then it led into his ***. If he's gonna be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why can't I treat him like one? :/ On Topic: This being passed is gonna cause an influx of people in cali for gay marriage and marijuana. There should at least be 10 states allowing this.
you both were being schmucks. i used to have this map with the current status of legality for the states circa jan 2010. don't know where it's at now. edit: if he got topic banned you would as well SK, i'd say just shush with the antagonism for a bit lol.

I beg to differ. I made a post to contribute. He responded by saying "lolz all religions is opinions". I asked him to tell me where I was wrong. He responded with "lolz transformers picture".



you guys still going at it. shut up?

edit: thanks j.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-08-04 18:43:34
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Phoenix.Darki said:
can we talk about gay people now?
I mean, legalizing gay marriage isn't bad, they aren't bad people, it's not their fault they like the same sex.

see it this way, they can't help it.
just like you can't help liking your favorite color, or your favorite food.
I mean, think about the thing you mostly like on this world, you just can't help it, they can't either. They didn't choose to like it, you know... it just happened :/

All this "they"

and "can't help it"

Make it sound like its a bad thing while trying to make it sound like a good thing.
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-08-04 18:44:13
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Phoenix.Darki said:
can we talk about gay people now?
I mean, legalizing gay marriage isn't bad, they aren't bad people, it's not their fault they like the same sex.

see it this way, they can't help it.
just like you can't help liking your favorite color, or your favorite food.
I mean, think about the thing you mostly like on this world, you just can't help it, they can't either. They didn't choose to like it, you know... it just happened :/

Idk what I'd do if I couldn't love chicken bacon ranch pizza.
(sounds gross I know)
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-04 18:45:06
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Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Dude, I'm gunna topic ban both of you if you can't stop fighting.
God dammit jaerik, fine, but in my defense, you did start going off on how all religions are different, then it led into his ***. If he's gonna be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE why can't I treat him like one? :/ On Topic: This being passed is gonna cause an influx of people in cali for gay marriage and marijuana. There should at least be 10 states allowing this.
you both were being schmucks. i used to have this map with the current status of legality for the states circa jan 2010. don't know where it's at now. edit: if he got topic banned you would as well SK, i'd say just shush with the antagonism for a bit lol.

I beg to differ. I made a post to contribute. He responded by saying "lolz all religions is opinions". I asked him to tell me where I was wrong. He responded with "lolz transformers picture".

arguing and discussing, there is a difference.
he responded with lol transformer picture, but he was obviously trolling and not taking this topic seriously, therefore answering him doesn't help...IE schmuck.
didn't say you were a schmuck, just said you both were being one.
edit: and @ SK- i don't go on the red threads and do this ***, that's the difference, if it was the fact that he was giving you a complete BS argument that'd be one thing, but he wasn't :/
Gotta strategically place where/when you troll brosef.
I'll keep my eye out for that map.
Bet you'd find it on 420chan though.
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2010-08-04 18:46:37
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
For the record, the California proposition to legalize marijuana, under the same laws as alcohol, is polling way ahead and is expected to pass in November.
Unfortunately and unlike Gay Marriage, SCOTUS precedent is strongly in the corner of any challenge against this, the justices having gone as far as mocking Marijuana rights proponents during arguments in open court in previous cases and returning solid decisions against states' rights.

tl;dr, it stays illegal on a federal level until congress removes it from schedule 1, which is about as likely to happen as the Southern Baptist Convention supporting Gay Marriage.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-04 18:51:34
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Bismarck.Maxse said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
can we talk about gay people now?
I mean, legalizing gay marriage isn't bad, they aren't bad people, it's not their fault they like the same sex.

see it this way, they can't help it.
just like you can't help liking your favorite color, or your favorite food.
I mean, think about the thing you mostly like on this world, you just can't help it, they can't either. They didn't choose to like it, you know... it just happened :/

All this "they"

and "can't help it"

Make it sound like its a bad thing while trying to make it sound like a good thing.


You're the one perceiving it as a bad thing.

they can be referred to any group of people, just because I'm talking about gay people doesn't mean I am making it sound bad by using the word they. I am pretty open about the subject, so I don't see how it's a bad thing to call them they. geez.

and I tried to explain, they can't help it. It comes as the same to us not being able to avoid liking something, like a certain color.

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By Shiva.Xellith 2010-08-04 18:52:55
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people can be gay all they want - as long as they dont try shoving a *** up MY *** what is the harm?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-04 18:54:23
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Shiva.Daimos said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
can we talk about gay people now?
I mean, legalizing gay marriage isn't bad, they aren't bad people, it's not their fault they like the same sex.

see it this way, they can't help it.
just like you can't help liking your favorite color, or your favorite food.
I mean, think about the thing you mostly like on this world, you just can't help it, they can't either. They didn't choose to like it, you know... it just happened :/

Idk what I'd do if I couldn't love chicken bacon ranch pizza.
(sounds gross I know)


ew :/ but thats your happiness lol

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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-08-04 18:59:28
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
For the record, the California proposition to legalize marijuana, under the same laws as alcohol, is polling way ahead and is expected to pass in November.

I had to afk for awhile but im back. Anyways even assuming california or any other states legalizes it, doesn't the federal government have a law against it? Assuming it does it would still be illegal use anything the government says is a CDS. I'm rather sure the surpremacy clause of the constitution prevents state laws from conflicting with federal laws.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-04 19:02:08
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The feds have a law against it, but the enforcement of it comes to the Drug Enforcement Agency, which is at the discretion of the President.

For instance, under Bush, states which legalized marijuana still had federal authorities raiding their otherwise legal marijuana dispensaries.

Under Obama, he's ordered the DEA to stop enforcing the law in states where it's legal.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-08-04 19:04:12
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
The feds have a law against it, but the enforcement of it comes to the Drug Enforcement Agency, which is at the discretion of the President. For instance, under Bush, states which legalized marijuana still had federal authorities raiding their otherwise legal marijuana dispensaries. Under Obama, he's ordered the DEA to stop enforcing the law in states where it's legal.

Ahh. BTW, do you ever voice your opinion on any of these topics? I don't think I've ever read a mod express a personal opinion on these topics beyond contributing information.
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if he does then it would look like he's taking sides. :(
but Jae should tell us his opinion on this and everyone else stfu.
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