Ban On Gay Marriage Struck Down
Ban on Gay Marriage Struck Down
Yay !!! Good News , all the more reasons to move to CA now
It gives the same legal rights as far as tax cuts and ***, that's all you need, the rest is for show. It's all *** to make the woman happy. Most guys hate the ceremony.
I could care less to hear your QQ about how it makes them feel inferior to not be able to get into a white dress and dance around in front of their most likely unaccepting family members.
If you are gay I will listen to your heart felt pain about how gays feel, otherwise you are just a straight liberal trying to cry about something that doesn't effect you. I don't like listening to liberals even if I basically am close to being one myself.
I want to make it clear once again, I could care less who gets to marry and who doesn't. I'm just speaking logically. That is all.
I could care less to hear your QQ about how it makes them feel inferior to not be able to get into a white dress and dance around in front of their most likely unaccepting family members.
If you are gay I will listen to your heart felt pain about how gays feel, otherwise you are just a straight liberal trying to cry about something that doesn't effect you. I don't like listening to liberals even if I basically am close to being one myself.
I want to make it clear once again, I could care less who gets to marry and who doesn't. I'm just speaking logically. That is all.
Bahamut.Paulus said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Bahamut.Paulus said:
My thought is that this is one step to redefining what a family is. Family always to me meant blood relatives cousins and even half brothers and sisters if you grew up close enough to them. Is it blood or love that makes a family? I'm fond of my in-laws and would feel horribly for my wife if one of them were to die but it wouldn't "hurt" me or make me dispair. I'd be hurting for us but more for her. Can you even call it a family if there's no way to procreate?
Yeah, I'd like to see myself in Mia, so I can understand what you're saying, bro.
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Bahamut.Paulus said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Bahamut.Paulus said:
My thought is that this is one step to redefining what a family is. Family always to me meant blood relatives cousins and even half brothers and sisters if you grew up close enough to them. Is it blood or love that makes a family? I'm fond of my in-laws and would feel horribly for my wife if one of them were to die but it wouldn't "hurt" me or make me dispair. I'd be hurting for us but more for her. Can you even call it a family if there's no way to procreate?
Yeah, I'd like to see myself in Mia, so I can understand what you're saying, bro.
*** A lol.
By the law of "dibs" I get first go. maybe if it doesn't work out you can have seconds.
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Religion is a funny thing, preach acceptance, yet condemn someone for being gay.
Ignorance at it's finest.
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By the way, interesting detail:
The pro-gay marriage side are represented by two lawyers, Theodore Olson and David Boeis.
Olson served as Solicitor General under President Bush. (The government's chief lawyer before the Supreme Court.). He also represented Bush in the Florida lawsuit that made Bush president. He is strongly Republican.
Boeis was Al Gore's chief lawyer in the same Florida lawsuit, and is strongly Democrat. Meaning they used to be extreme partisan enemies, but agree on the need to legalize gay marriage.
Also interesting, the judge in this case is a Republican, nominated under Reagan and approved under H.W. Bush.
The pro-gay marriage side are represented by two lawyers, Theodore Olson and David Boeis.
Olson served as Solicitor General under President Bush. (The government's chief lawyer before the Supreme Court.). He also represented Bush in the Florida lawsuit that made Bush president. He is strongly Republican.
Boeis was Al Gore's chief lawyer in the same Florida lawsuit, and is strongly Democrat. Meaning they used to be extreme partisan enemies, but agree on the need to legalize gay marriage.
Also interesting, the judge in this case is a Republican, nominated under Reagan and approved under H.W. Bush.
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Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Religion is a funny thing, preach acceptance, yet condemn someone for being gay.
Was that directed at me, or in agreeance?
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
By the way, interesting detail:
The pro-gay marriage side are represented by two lawyers, Theodore Olson and David Boeis.
Olson served as Solicitor General under President Bush. (The government's chief lawyer before the Supreme Court.). He also represented Bush in the Florida lawsuit that made Bush president. He is strongly Republican.
Boeis was Al Gore's chief lawyer in the same Florida lawsuit, and is strongly Democrat. Meaning they used to be extreme partisan enemies, but agree on the need to legalize gay marriage.
Also interesting, the judge in this case is a Republican, nominated under Reagan and approved under H.W. Bush.
The pro-gay marriage side are represented by two lawyers, Theodore Olson and David Boeis.
Olson served as Solicitor General under President Bush. (The government's chief lawyer before the Supreme Court.). He also represented Bush in the Florida lawsuit that made Bush president. He is strongly Republican.
Boeis was Al Gore's chief lawyer in the same Florida lawsuit, and is strongly Democrat. Meaning they used to be extreme partisan enemies, but agree on the need to legalize gay marriage.
Also interesting, the judge in this case is a Republican, nominated under Reagan and approved under H.W. Bush.
A lot of republicans have been found out cheating on their wives with other men. Maybe they are secretly gay. :D
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Religion is a funny thing, preach acceptance, yet condemn someone for being gay.
now hold on a second before you start bashing religion for that reason think about what you are saying. There are some requirments for religion "yes it may be stupid to you or many other people" but in most religion they condemn homosexuality. Therefore there wouldn't need to be any acceptance on there part.
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
By the way, interesting detail:
The plaintiffs (Yes to gay marriage) side are represented by wo lawyers, Theodore Olson and David Boeis.
Olson served as Solicitor General under President Bush. (The government's chief lawyer before the Supreme Court.). He also represented Bush in the Florida lawsuit that made Bush president. He is strongly Republican.
Boeis was Al Gore's chief lawyer in the same Florida lawsuit, and is strongly Democrat. Meaning they used to be extreme partisan enemies, but agree on the need to legalize gay marriage.
Also interesting, the judge in this case is a Republican and was nominated under Reagan and approved under Bush.
The plaintiffs (Yes to gay marriage) side are represented by wo lawyers, Theodore Olson and David Boeis.
Olson served as Solicitor General under President Bush. (The government's chief lawyer before the Supreme Court.). He also represented Bush in the Florida lawsuit that made Bush president. He is strongly Republican.
Boeis was Al Gore's chief lawyer in the same Florida lawsuit, and is strongly Democrat. Meaning they used to be extreme partisan enemies, but agree on the need to legalize gay marriage.
Also interesting, the judge in this case is a Republican and was nominated under Reagan and approved under Bush.
We all know that lawyers are motivated by only one thing, and its not political affiliation.
Spic himself called me a douche, my life is now complete.
chichi said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Religion is a funny thing, preach acceptance, yet condemn someone for being gay.
It's not just gay marriage, it's other things. Stem cell research, Cloning, etc. We can't cure paralysis, we can't clone and reattach a limb, we can't return someone to "the way God made them." and why? Because religious fanatics throw a fit. So, sorry, little Timmy, you have to be in a wheelchair with spinal injuries and you have to go to dialysis every week, because people think God doesn't want you to be able to walk or have new kidneys.
There is no agreement on homosexuality even within religions. Within Christianity, the Catholics, Baptists, and Evangelicals all say it's a sin. So do the Mormons. The Methodists, Lutherans and Presbyterians are split on it. The Church of England (Anglicans) and Episcopalians accept it and even have gay clergy.
Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines.
So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines.
So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
There is no agreement on homosexuality even within religions. Within Christianity, the Catholics, Baptists, and Evangelicals all say it's a sin. So do the Mormons. The Methodists, Lutherans and Presbyterians are split on it. The Church of England (Anglicans) and Episcopalians accept it and even have gay clergy.
Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines.
So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines.
So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
Your face is inaccurate. Come down to Louisiana and fight me. When I win I get ffxiah.com and it's getting renamed to www.brodershangoutpad.com with Derf as the main mod.
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Spic himself called me a douche, my life is now complete.
I am not Latino..
Oh, wai-
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
There is no agreement on homosexuality even within religions. Within Christianity, the Catholics, Baptists, and Evangelicals all say it's a sin. So do the Mormons. The Methodists, Lutherans and Presbyterians are split on it. The Church of England (Anglicans) and Episcopalians accept it and even have gay clergy. Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines. So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
My point was that telling people to accept everyone equally, then turning around, and saying that gays are sinners, and not allowing them to be married (discrimination) is dumb.
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
There is no agreement on homosexuality even within religions. Within Christianity, the Catholics, Baptists, and Evangelicals all say it's a sin. So do the Mormons. The Methodists, Lutherans and Presbyterians are split on it. The Church of England (Anglicans) and Episcopalians accept it and even have gay clergy. Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines. So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
overall it's not accepted in religion..I would not say that it's "widely innacurate"..cause it is more then the ones that agree on it by a majority. Not to say that won't change in the future but now that's the way it is.
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
There is no agreement on homosexuality even within religions. Within Christianity, the Catholics, Baptists, and Evangelicals all say it's a sin. So do the Mormons. The Methodists, Lutherans and Presbyterians are split on it. The Church of England (Anglicans) and Episcopalians accept it and even have gay clergy. Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines. So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
Talk to Scragg, Jae is a co-founder.
Let's not dance around it, it's largely the american christian community that are so opposed. They are the ones stopping this. They more or less run or at least HEAVILY influence lot's of political based agendas in america and that's why ***is the way it is.
Most other religions don't give a ***, but ALL of them are full of ***.
Edit: Oh ***, scragg is the main guy lol? Jaerik actually know martial arts so it would have been a tougher fight, I'll own scragg~
Most other religions don't give a ***, but ALL of them are full of ***.
Edit: Oh ***, scragg is the main guy lol? Jaerik actually know martial arts so it would have been a tougher fight, I'll own scragg~
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Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Let's not dance around it, it's largely the american christian community that are so opposed. They are the ones stopping this. They more or less run or at least HEAVILY influence lot's of political based agendas in america and that's why ***is the way it is. Most other religions don't give a ***, but ALL of them are full of ***. Edit: Oh ***, scragg is the main guy lol? Jaerik actually know martial arts so it would have been a tougher fight, I'll own scragg~
Jae knows martial arts, Scragg is made of guns. You're dead.
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Scragg wrote the web front end, but not the original data collection mechanism nor the localization. However, both the site and LLC are in his name, and almost all of the work done on the site these days is on the web side.
I'm pretty sure that means he trumps me and Cliff, if it really came down to it.
I'm pretty sure that means he trumps me and Cliff, if it really came down to it.
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Let's not dance around it, it's largely the american christian community that are so opposed. They are the ones stopping this. They more or less run or at least HEAVILY influence lot's of political based agendas in america and that's why ***is the way it is. Most other religions don't give a ***, but ALL of them are full of ***. Edit: Oh ***, scragg is the main guy lol? Jaerik actually know martial arts so it would have been a tougher fight, I'll own scragg~
Jae knows martial arts, Scragg is made of guns. You're dead.
Guns don't scare the Loli King.
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Let's not dance around it, it's largely the american christian community that are so opposed. They are the ones stopping this. They more or less run or at least HEAVILY influence lot's of political based agendas in america and that's why ***is the way it is.
Most other religions don't give a ***, but ALL of them are full of ***.
Edit: Oh ***, scragg is the main guy lol? Jaerik actually know martial arts so it would have been a tougher fight, I'll own scragg~
Most other religions don't give a ***, but ALL of them are full of ***.
Edit: Oh ***, scragg is the main guy lol? Jaerik actually know martial arts so it would have been a tougher fight, I'll own scragg~
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Let's not dance around it, it's largely the american christian community that are so opposed. They are the ones stopping this. They more or less run or at least HEAVILY influence lot's of political based agendas in america and that's why ***is the way it is. Most other religions don't give a ***, but ALL of them are full of ***. Edit: Oh ***, scragg is the main guy lol? Jaerik actually know martial arts so it would have been a tougher fight, I'll own scragg~
Sure, they don't scare Lud, but they can still kill bot him and you.
I was going to study the philosophical points of Buddhism as they are amazing, but then I realized how chaotic I am and it wouldn't work for me. If you look as Buddhism as a way to live and not a religion, it's actually very nice though.
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
I was going to study the philosophical points of Buddhism as they are amazing, but then I realized how chaotic I am and it wouldn't work for me. If you look as Buddhism as a way to live and not a religion, it's actually very nice though.
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
There is no agreement on homosexuality even within religions. Within Christianity, the Catholics, Baptists, and Evangelicals all say it's a sin. So do the Mormons. The Methodists, Lutherans and Presbyterians are split on it. The Church of England (Anglicans) and Episcopalians accept it and even have gay clergy. Similarly, the largest council of Jewish rabbis came out in support of gay marriage during the Prop 8 election. But the orthodox sub-community came out against it. Similarly, there are disagreements within Islam depending on where in the world you are, and many Eastern religions, including Buddhism, Hinduism, etc are either in support of it or split along internal theological lines. So to say that "most religions are against it" is wildly inaccurate.
Within the US, the most outspoken critics of gay rights have tended to be religious conservatives. Many of the politicians who support gay marriage bans tend to be conservative republicans who receive large campaign contributions from religious organizations. Perhaps there are ideological splits, but it is not an equal split when you follow the money.
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