As an Atheist, yes I know murder is wrong.
But if I were Theist... I don't believe I would..
Take these religious leaders for example, they don't know that murder is wrong:
George W. Bush, Osama Bin Ladin, Adolph Hitler.
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Fairy.Haxorking said:
The argument you guys are having about the religious population in jail is moot. Something like 80% of the population in north america has some religious affiliation, which would completely skew those results
Welcome to what I already said. The percent of people in prison belonging to each religious group matches the percentage belonging to each group in the nation. Therefore the only reason there are more people of religious affiliation in prison, is because there are more people of religious affiliation in the population. No one group is overrepresented or underrepresented.
Odin.Oldive said:
Fairy.Haxorking said:
The argument you guys are having about the religious population in jail is moot. Something like 80% of the population in north america has some religious affiliation, which would completely skew those results
Well, since there are over 15% of atheists in America... And they only take up .4% of the prison.. That would make them underrepresented dont you think?
Edit: Had fun. Going to bed. Good night!
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
So you are going to pussy out I take it Haxor?
Fairy.Haxorking said:
Hold on, Im scratching my puss! God damn, gimme a minute!
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
As an Atheist, yes I know murder is wrong.
But if I were Theist... I don't believe I would..
Take these religious leaders for example, they don't know that murder is wrong:
George W. Bush, Osama Bin Ladin, Adolph Hitler.
But if I were Theist... I don't believe I would..
Take these religious leaders for example, they don't know that murder is wrong:
George W. Bush, Osama Bin Ladin, Adolph Hitler.
Just because you lean a certain way doesn't mean you're required to believe a certain way.
Dummy.
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Well, since there are over 15% of atheists in America... And they only take up .4% of the prison.. That would make them underrepresented dont you think?
Edit: Had fun. Going to bed. Good night!
The article you chose to promote your argument states that only .4% of Americans are atheists. So now I have to ask you which one is it. Cause you can't seem to make up your mind. I hate bad science, you can't change your argument when it suits you.
Valefor.Burrows said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
As an Atheist, yes I know murder is wrong. But if I were Theist... I don't believe I would.. Take these religious leaders for example, they don't know that murder is wrong: George W. Bush, Osama Bin Ladin, Adolph Hitler.
Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version) 13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Like I said... If I were Christian, I would probably think it would be ok to murder gay people after reading this.
Edit: Dummy.
Spicy, I've answered your question like 12 times, even sent you a PM about it, please learn to read or pay attention
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
So you are going to pussy out I take it Haxor?
I'll answer your question one last time because you're obviously slow and didn't realize that my response was posted in the quote that you originally started bitching about, and the pm I sent you, and the periodic responses that you missed over and over again.
I did NOT make an exception for slavery in the bible
Slavery is wrong, and that is a fault,
However the fault is mans, not religions
Religion cannot think, it cannot make decisions, it cannot act
Man can, and it's man that both wrote that, and carried it out
You can't blame an innate object for a crime
You've also neglected that all the murders in the name of religion are in fact condemned by the bible
"Thou shalt not kill"
We have fixed it, slavery is abolished, no?
Last time I checked slavery is illegal
Last time I checked slavery is illegal
20 pages... dang. I bet they all suck too
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah the PM said the same *** thing.
Answer the question. Do not sit here and add all this other ***in there saying "god did not command them to own slaves" and "man obviously wrote that in the bible on his own accord, and man perpetuated it' all that ***. You are like the *** Beaker from the Muppets.
Answer the god damn question. I even said explain it to, you can just explain why you said that SINGLE sentence.
Here is the quote, AGAIN in case you are the one not reading.
And we've fixed that, haven't we? <==== (THIS ONE RIGHT HERE! THIS IS THE LINE!)
You are a complete bumbling fool. We fixed that? It should not of been an issue in the first place.
Did you just make an exception for the bible condoning slavery? I can not believe anyone could have the gall to do such a *** thing.
EDITED: For *** bold.
Answer the question. Do not sit here and add all this other ***in there saying "god did not command them to own slaves" and "man obviously wrote that in the bible on his own accord, and man perpetuated it' all that ***. You are like the *** Beaker from the Muppets.
Answer the god damn question. I even said explain it to, you can just explain why you said that SINGLE sentence.
Here is the quote, AGAIN in case you are the one not reading.
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Fairy.Haxorking said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
You do know that SLAVERY, is condoned in the commandments? You do know there are a lot more than ten correct?
And we've fixed that, haven't we? <==== (THIS ONE RIGHT HERE! THIS IS THE LINE!)
You are a complete bumbling fool. We fixed that? It should not of been an issue in the first place.
Did you just make an exception for the bible condoning slavery? I can not believe anyone could have the gall to do such a *** thing.
EDITED: For *** bold.
You realize I'm the one who said, and it was a rhetorical question right?
Slavery has been abolished everywhere in North America as far as I know. So the answer to my own rhetorical question, with an explanation is this: Yes, we have fixed slavery, we've abolished it, made it illegal, you can't do it now. Do you want me to write you a 50 page essay explaining that?
I guess the error was mine, I had no idea you'd ask me to answer my own self explanatory rhetorical question?
My question is, if the bible is the only legitimate and widely accepted source of detailed testimony to Christianity, yet is accepted for having been misinterpreted, mistranslated, and overall deceitful in it's man-made depictions, why continue to use it at all?
I'd like to think one's relationship with a deity or source of enlightenment wouldn't be simply narrowed down to what in all honestly looks more and more like an ancient science fiction novel.
Just seems silly to basically say "this is the word of our God." followed by a disclaimer listing the above issues.
I'd like to think one's relationship with a deity or source of enlightenment wouldn't be simply narrowed down to what in all honestly looks more and more like an ancient science fiction novel.
Just seems silly to basically say "this is the word of our God." followed by a disclaimer listing the above issues.
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Fairy.Haxorking said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah the PM said the same *** thing.
Answer the question. Do not sit here and add all this other ***in there saying "god did not command them to own slaves" and "man obviously wrote that in the bible on his own accord, and man perpetuated it' all that ***. You are like the *** Beaker from the Muppets.
Answer the god damn question. I even said explain it to, you can just explain why you said that SINGLE sentence.
Here is the quote, AGAIN in case you are the one not reading.
And we've fixed that, haven't we? <==== (THIS ONE RIGHT HERE! THIS IS THE LINE!)
You are a complete bumbling fool. We fixed that? It should not of been an issue in the first place.
Did you just make an exception for the bible condoning slavery? I can not believe anyone could have the gall to do such a *** thing.
EDITED: For *** bold.
Answer the question. Do not sit here and add all this other ***in there saying "god did not command them to own slaves" and "man obviously wrote that in the bible on his own accord, and man perpetuated it' all that ***. You are like the *** Beaker from the Muppets.
Answer the god damn question. I even said explain it to, you can just explain why you said that SINGLE sentence.
Here is the quote, AGAIN in case you are the one not reading.
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Fairy.Haxorking said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
You do know that SLAVERY, is condoned in the commandments? You do know there are a lot more than ten correct?
And we've fixed that, haven't we? <==== (THIS ONE RIGHT HERE! THIS IS THE LINE!)
You are a complete bumbling fool. We fixed that? It should not of been an issue in the first place.
Did you just make an exception for the bible condoning slavery? I can not believe anyone could have the gall to do such a *** thing.
EDITED: For *** bold.
You realize I'm the one who said, and it was a rhetorical question right?
Slavery has been abolished everywhere in North America as far as I know. So the answer to my own rhetorical question, with an explanation is this: Yes, we have fixed slavery, we've abolished it, made it illegal, you can't do it now. Do you want me to write you a 50 page essay explaining that?
No, the point was exactly as I said. Slavery should never have been a problem in the first place. That the bible contributed to slavery being accepted in society for it blatantly mentioning it. I take you saying "And we have fixed that now haven't we?" as saying "it is okay we have corrected it" meaning to me that is an exception for the bible still condoning it to this day.
I already explained that,
Slavery took place BEFORE the bible
You make it out like god said "Let there be slavery"
Slavery took place BEFORE the bible
Slavery took place BEFORE the bible
Slavery took place BEFORE the bible
I can't stress that enough
if it took place BEFORE the religion, how is it the religious fault
Slavery was part of human culture BEFORE the bible. People believed it was just a part of life, that it always has been and always will be. People wrote the bible, obviously they'd include rules about conduct in slavery, it was a major part of their life.
I'm not even arguing about the bible, so what are you smoking?
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Fairy.Haxorking said:
Slavery was part of human culture BEFORE the bible. People believed it was just a part of life, that it always has been and always will be. People wrote the bible, obviously they'd include rules about conduct in slavery, it was a major part of their life.
And we have fixed that, haven't we?
We've abolished slavery, yes we have
Are you arguing about the fact that the clause about slavery hasn't been removed from the bibles actual text?
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