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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 09:34:25
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Caitsith.Jessie said:
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Also screw 2100 dmg QCs. I'm hitting 3-4k Vanity dives and Benthic typhoons.
Yeah... I'm pretty dang casual. I don't have much in terms of good gear. I don't even have a Suppa yet >_>
Oh that's largey from SA + atma of the razed ruins lol. Well and of course CAEFF. That atma is sick though. If only the crit from SA was applied to the non main targets... could have blus one or 2 shotting an entire group of xp mobs lol
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-10-30 09:43:18
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Yeah, I'm actually really impressed with the whole line of spells we got in the last update. It's actually kinda sad to realize that (assuming SE follows the same pattern) we're only getting 5 more Set Points to set spells with 14 more levels on the way... And if they're anywhere as good as the last bunch we got from 80~85, we're going to have a lot of trouble trying to figure out what we want.

We got 10 spells in the last update, and I use 8 of them all the time. What are the next 20-30 spells going to be like? And how are we going to juggle them all with at most 60 set points? x_x

Here's hoping we get Set Points +5 on our AF3 hands!
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By Sylph.Kwate 2010-10-30 13:52:18
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Caitsith.Jessie said:
Yeah, I'm actually really impressed with the whole line of spells we got in the last update. It's actually kinda sad to realize that (assuming SE follows the same pattern) we're only getting 5 more Set Points to set spells with 14 more levels on the way... And if they're anywhere as good as the last bunch we got from 80~85, we're going to have a lot of trouble trying to figure out what we want.

We got 10 spells in the last update, and I use 8 of them all the time. What are the next 20-30 spells going to be like? And how are we going to juggle them all with at most 60 set points? x_x

Here's hoping we get Set Points +5 on our AF3 hands!

Personally I would like to see SE revise all spell costs 75 and lower, as they were created in mind that 75 would be the pinnacle of our power. Its unrealistic to set a 5 point Hysteric Barrage if I wanted it for casual use (which I don't care for that spell, just making a point). I LOVE Reactor Cool, but 5 points is just too steep, now with so many new spells and 75 not being the pinnacle of power any longer.
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-10-30 13:58:27
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...Yeah, lots of our spells simply aren't worth equipping now.

And I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but I still think that they should lower (even just a little bit) the MP cost of "Magical" spells. 350 MP for 1000 Needles? I can deal 1000 damage to 5 monsters at a time with a 56-mp spell while simultaneously lowering their DEF and MDEF by 10% each (and without taking 10 seconds to cast it either) >_>;
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-11-04 03:48:18
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Not sure what level but...:


Boreas Mantle - basically duplicate yourself (Shadows of the Mind ISNM)

and

Abrasive Tantara - I pity you if you don't know what this is.

'Nuff said.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-04 04:13:35
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Caitsith.Jessie said:
...Yeah, lots of our spells simply aren't worth equipping now.

And I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but I still think that they should lower (even just a little bit) the MP cost of "Magical" spells. 350 MP for 1000 Needles? I can deal 1000 damage to 5 monsters at a time with a 56-mp spell while simultaneously lowering their DEF and MDEF by 10% each (and without taking 10 seconds to cast it either) >_>;

Agreed, same with bad breath and a few other magical spells ;/ they need to be tweaked.
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By Gilgamesh.Topdogg 2010-11-04 04:19:23
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Raise.. some form of raise..
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-04 04:36:23
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Mighty guard! Maybe the new expansion will have iron giants that actually use it.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-11-04 04:42:26
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Caitsith.Jessie said:
...Yeah, lots of our spells simply aren't worth equipping now.

And I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but I still think that they should lower (even just a little bit) the MP cost of "Magical" spells. 350 MP for 1000 Needles? I can deal 1000 damage to 5 monsters at a time with a 56-mp spell while simultaneously lowering their DEF and MDEF by 10% each (and without taking 10 seconds to cast it either) >_>;
Good luck lining them up. The range of that move isn't too far and more importantly it's very narrow. Better example would be Whirl of rage
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-11-04 06:04:01
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Jessie said:
...Yeah, lots of our spells simply aren't worth equipping now.

And I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but I still think that they should lower (even just a little bit) the MP cost of "Magical" spells. 350 MP for 1000 Needles? I can deal 1000 damage to 5 monsters at a time with a 56-mp spell while simultaneously lowering their DEF and MDEF by 10% each (and without taking 10 seconds to cast it either) >_>;
Good luck lining them up. The range of that move isn't too far and more importantly it's very narrow. Better example would be Whirl of rage
The effective damage range is actually a lot larger than the casting range.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2010-11-04 08:19:13
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Sylph.Kwate said:
Caitsith.Jessie said:
Yeah, I'm actually really impressed with the whole line of spells we got in the last update. It's actually kinda sad to realize that (assuming SE follows the same pattern) we're only getting 5 more Set Points to set spells with 14 more levels on the way... And if they're anywhere as good as the last bunch we got from 80~85, we're going to have a lot of trouble trying to figure out what we want.

We got 10 spells in the last update, and I use 8 of them all the time. What are the next 20-30 spells going to be like? And how are we going to juggle them all with at most 60 set points? x_x

Here's hoping we get Set Points +5 on our AF3 hands!

Personally I would like to see SE revise all spell costs 75 and lower, as they were created in mind that 75 would be the pinnacle of our power. Its unrealistic to set a 5 point Hysteric Barrage if I wanted it for casual use (which I don't care for that spell, just making a point). I LOVE Reactor Cool, but 5 points is just too steep, now with so many new spells and 75 not being the pinnacle of power any longer.

Reactor Cool is 5 points partially because it gives INT+3 MND+3.
If they re-did set points, they'd have to re-do the stat bonuses on the spells too.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-11-04 08:27:58
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Would like to see a Protect/Shell 3-5 spell. Maybe set it every 29 minutes, cast, then set your spells back without it(unless it gives a decent spell combo or stat).
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-11-04 08:49:01
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Good luck lining them up. The range of that move isn't too far and more importantly it's very narrow. Better example would be Whirl of rage
You could make a good example out of any spell in our arsenal.

Heck, even at the level you could use the spell, you could deal way more than 1000 damage with 350 MP
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2010-11-04 09:12:37
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why dont they give blu Death alrdy that cannot be resisted and has an aftermath of chainspell and manafront.. blu is to OP D:
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-11-04 10:08:16
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Odin.Blazza said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Jessie said:
...Yeah, lots of our spells simply aren't worth equipping now. And I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but I still think that they should lower (even just a little bit) the MP cost of "Magical" spells. 350 MP for 1000 Needles? I can deal 1000 damage to 5 monsters at a time with a 56-mp spell while simultaneously lowering their DEF and MDEF by 10% each (and without taking 10 seconds to cast it either) >_>;
Good luck lining them up. The range of that move isn't too far and more importantly it's very narrow. Better example would be Whirl of rage
The effective damage range is actually a lot larger than the casting range.
I know. But the cone is so damn narrow and mobs really don't like to line up like that lol
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-04 10:09:10
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Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
why dont they give blu Death alrdy that cannot be resisted and has an aftermath of chainspell and manafront.. blu is to OP D:

lvl 5 death :) i know something uses it, I forget what.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-04 10:09:19
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Or maybe nothing uses it... anyone remembeR? o.O
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-11-04 10:10:53
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I think you are thinking of lvl 5 petrify
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-04 10:13:07
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Yeah you're right. They should add lvl 5 death tho ;p always been in the series! TBH I really wanna see 1k needles, bad breath, aqua breath, white wind etc as common spells we use only cause I'm such a geek for old FF's.
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-11-04 10:21:25
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I wish Bad Breath was more useful. I love debuffing stuff on BLU.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-04 10:26:24
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Yeah, its a huge mp cost and the debuffs wear off so quick.. if they even stick ;/. I think SE was thinking they would be too overpowered (Bad breath and 1k needles) but they need to reevaluate that lol.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-11-04 10:36:21
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I wish feather tickle worked better
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-05 09:00:26
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Now that I think on it, Extremely bad breath is death move ;p
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-11-05 09:03:31
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
I wish feather tickle worked better
Light of Penance or GTFO.

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Abrasive Tantara
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By Emilrelda 2010-11-05 09:11:19
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Yeah you're right. They should add lvl 5 death tho ;p always been in the series! TBH I really wanna see 1k needles, bad breath, aqua breath, white wind etc as common spells we use only cause I'm such a geek for old FF's.
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Yeah, its a huge mp cost and the debuffs wear off so quick.. if they even stick ;/. I think SE was thinking they would be too overpowered (Bad breath and 1k needles) but they need to reevaluate that lol.
blue can get 1000 needles
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-11-05 09:16:20
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You misunderstood what I said. I said I wanted to see those spells as common choices to use in a fight, like the big 3 were etc. I know its in the game lol
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-11-05 09:20:56
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Never trust anons to actually read what you're saying.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-11-05 09:23:48
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If 1000 needles was 60 mp and did 1000 to everything it hit, I might use it. That and lower the cast time.

At this point there isn't much they can do to the old spells that will make them worth using. I'm sure they will never change them.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-11-05 09:26:19
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1000 Needles might be worth using if they lowered the cost to 150mp.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-11-05 09:26:56
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And if you know it actually landed
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