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 Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-07-20 11:27:43
Caitsith.Damiyen said: Leeches - TP-Drainkiss (of cource)
Kindred - Quadrastrike(4-hit damage)
Funguars - Silence Gas (Breath Damage + Silence)
Aerns - Crystaline Cocoon (Protect & Shell)
Vampyr - Blooddrake(Drain)
and/or
Vampyr - Decollation (3-hit Damage)
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE Give us fast cast job trait w/o it costing an obscene amount of set points to use
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-07-20 11:31:29
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Odin.Blazza said: Asura.Kowen said: If they do decide to go through with giving BLU HNM spells, they'll probably put weaker, more common versions of the monsters in the Walk of Echoes or new Abyssea zones. Omg, imagine an area with 10 Faffles running around, that'd be awesome. Quoting for hilarity since they actually did this, albeit with cute miniature ones. And no spike flail, WTF! :p
Also, I was much more interested in seeing regular Behe mobs running around. Was much disappointed when I found out it was just another NM :(
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By Asura.Majae 2010-07-20 11:54:10
Phoenix.Zeotah said: I think I'd shoot myself if I had to get spells from HNMs. I know I'm not alone in that sentiment.
+1 to this. I never, ever camp HNMs. No time.
If the new gimp blu is not having HNM spells, well then call me gimp. lol
On another note, I doubt they would do it - buuut. this is SE here. My guess is any new spells would come from Abyssea as well as older game content.
I would love to see us get TP Drainkiss over most spells.
 Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-07-20 12:38:34
I wouldn't be surprised if we got TP-Drainkiss eventually. I have a feeling they'll be saving some of the cool HNM abilities for when we're nice and high level. There's no reason why a level 80 BLU should be able to use abilities from some of the "most feared"(least claimed :( ) NMs in the game. I'm guessing they'll just be pushing that back until the final level cap update.
As for TP-Drainkiss, it's already obvious that they're pushing BLU to be a more hybrid-ish job that can do things that normally only other jobs could do. Our own Haste, Dual Wield, Double Attack, Refresh, Regen, Cures, Aspirs, Drains, etc. DRK gets Absorb-TP at level 45, why not give BLU the ability to use their own at around twice that level?
And in continuation with the whole HNM thing being a bad idea, I don't think it'd be too unbelievable to think of 3-5, decently geared, level 99 BLUs going into a Nyzul Isle floor 20/40 and being able to clear with little problems.
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-07-20 12:58:45
If blu should get any spell It should be Mortal ray
 Leviathan.Thania
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By Leviathan.Thania 2010-07-20 13:30:08
about the HNM blu spells
square-enix said during the fanfestival interview that blu would indeed learn HNM's spell on high level
so, stupid idea? "maybe" its another debate
but apparently they will make it
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By Ragnarok.Roudidou 2010-07-20 13:46:00
Bilgestorm: AoE damage plus Attack Down, Accuracy Down, and Defense Down
Would be nice :P..... Guess who you'd learn it from :D
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-20 13:51:14
Everyone bitching about HNM spells seems to be forgetting there are instances of HNMs that can be found outside worldspawns...
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-07-20 13:53:16
I'm actually hoping that they give us more spell points. we need more than our 40 or 50 that we have. It will give us way more spell usage for us, and it would give us more traits as well, which I believe we need also.
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By Caitsith.Damiyen 2010-07-29 05:02:58
Why the f not....
Abrasive Tantara - AOE Amnesia
Deafening Tantara - AOE Silence
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By Fenrir.Omgwtftaru 2010-08-04 02:56:21
Doom Void - sends mob into Mog House for some happy time.
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-08-04 02:59:01
I think White wind and aqua breath should be added, they are signature spells to BLU in the series!
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-08-04 02:59:27
Fenrir.Omgwtftaru said: Doom Void - sends mob into Mog House for some happy time.
lol could be a self buff that does warp.
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Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-09-08 13:44:35
Trebold said: Here's a list I made of spells I think we might see as we level up the rest of Blue Mage.
Brainjack (Long-Armed Chariot) - About as useful as the BRD charm spell...
Level 5 Petrify (Ahrimans) - Inneffective on NMs.
Hurricane Wing (Fafhogg) - Flash type blind and AoE Wind damage, similiar to Actinic Burst but with small damage too.
Earth/Aqua Breath (Aspid) - Next tier breath spell for BLU, 2/3rds based HP instead of 1/2th with Heat Breath.
Flame Armor (Behemoth) - Let's face it, they won't give us Meteor, and if they give us Thunderbolt, it will be trashy.
Diffusion Ray (Chariots) - Another option for a higher tier breath spell.
Roller Chain (Ramparts) - AoE Damage and Bind
Restoral (Gears) - Pollen-like spell for Cure V+ potency
Lava Spit (Cerberus) - AoE Fire Damage
Slaverous Gale (Sandworm) - Conal frontal damage
Tail Lash (Amphipteres) - Physical damage, higher when behind the monster
Heliovoid (Vampyr) - Absorbs a random stat from target monster
Sinker Drill (Acrolith) - Single target physical damage
Fossilizing Breath (Khimaira) - Like Level 5 Petrify, unlikely to land on many things
Electrocharge (Spheroids) - Like Regurgitation, a useful Thunder-based nuke for BLU
Pyric Bulwark (Hydra) - High physical resistance(phalanx-like) for a very short duration
Cackle (Dvergr) - MAB, MACC, and MDB down to target monster
Asthenic Fog (Yovra) - AoE Drown, like Cold Wave
Could learn all 5 of the Simulcra statue abilities as well:
Seismostomp - AoE Damage and Stun
Lead Breath - Cone Attack Weight
Numbing Glare - Gaze Paralyze
Tormentful Glare - Gaze Curse
Torpid Glare - Gaze Sleep
With the release of the CoP area level cap, I think we'll have access to empty abilities too:
***Quadratic Continuum (Gorget) - 4-hit physical attack***
Murk (Cravers) - AoE Weight and Slow, like Mysterious Light, but with slow effect too
Empty Seed (Memory Receptacle) - AoE Knockback and Damage
Vanity Strike (Seether) - Yet another stun ability for BLU
Winds of Promyvion (Thinkers) - Erase
***Vanity Dive (Wanderers) - Single target damage***
***Auroral Drape (Weepers) - AoE Blind and Silence***
Maybe even some Ultima and Omega spells >.>
Looks like I got 3 of them right.
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Sylph.Kwate
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By Sylph.Kwate 2010-10-25 13:57:07
3 off the top of my head:
Heat Barrier - Enfire + blaze spikes (wamouracampas)
Crystalline Cocoon - Protect + Shell (4~5 would be nice)(A'erns)
TP drainkiss (need I say more?)
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-10-25 14:21:55
'Im sensing a tonberry spell coming up in near future!
According to Altana View....
By Damiyen 2010-10-30 07:06:30
Why don't we have widescan yet?
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-30 07:09:48
Spike Flail
Caitsith.Jessie
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-10-30 07:28:09
Well, we already got spells from 3 of the 6 Empty-type monsters, so let's think of what we could get from the other 3...
- Winds of Promyvion (Thinker) - Self-Erase. I'd want this because realistically it'd have fewer Set Points and probably have a more reasonable MP-cost and recast time than Exuviation.
- Empty Thrash (Craver) - Single-target damage and Paralyze. We don't have any decent ways of paralyzing enemies. Not without spending tons of MP and/or having to worry about AoE.
- Wanion (Seether) - Inflicts enemies in an AoE with enfeebles on self. This would just be fun to use. And every other move is really generic.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 07:53:44
Well if we are going for empyte moves I'd like...
Occultation (Seether) - Creates up to 25 shadow images...
Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-10-30 07:55:33
Caitsith.Neonracer said: 'Im sensing a tonberry spell coming up in near future!
According to Altana View....
Post a link to some vids for Altana Viewer spells!
Bahamut.Dasva said: Well if we are going for empyte moves I'd like...
Occultation (Seether) - Creates up to 25 shadow images...
Yeah, I'd really like to see another Blink spell. Maybe not 25 images, since that's way overpowered, but at least a faster casting blink than Zephyr Mantle. I'd really like to see /nin become useless to BLU with the right spell sets, so we can focus on bringing /rdm to nearly everything.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 08:03:02
More like /thf to everything!!!
Especially with razed ruins /drool
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-10-30 08:08:40
lol Occultation is a really unrealistic thought. I mean, there's a lot that they could change to make it less overpowered. Really though, I'm sure we'd all be happy even if it were just 3 or 4 shadows that acted like Utsusemi (rather than Blink).
Though Mahayaya, I already bring /RDM almost anywhere I go~ Many NM's in Abyssea either spam AoE spells, have attacks that strip or ignore Utsusemi, or are just simply far too dangerous to attack within melee range in the first place. Of course, I almost never solo, so I could see that Utsusemi is still useful outside of the few things that I do.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 08:13:28
I'm a taru... and rarely am with people I'm comfortable enough keeping me healed that don't make me come blm or rdm lol.
Seriously I've had plenty of abyssea pts where I did all the healing of myself by myself. While still tanking every mob and DDing like a mad man. Though tbh I can't spend my mp fast enough anymore between recasting utsesmi and some headbutts so /rdm wouldn't help that aweful much.
I'd love to xp with /thf though
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-10-30 08:16:45
Yeah, I try to /rdm as much as possible, it really is nice. Another good blink spell would put a final nail in the coffin for /nin which is what I'm hoping for.
Also, Dasva, you'd be surprised how much help a 350 or more Stoneskin and Zephyr Mantle will help with /rdm. I basically just recast every fight or two fights(talking about abyssea exping), and just spam the hell out of spells. If it starts beating on me hard, I'll toss up an Actinic Burst so I'm never in any big danger.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 08:23:06
Meh I've actually yet to run lower than 200 mp on blu in abyssea lol. And that's casting as much as I can.
And so increased DW is slightly useful.
Not to mention the vastly increase survivability since I have hate the vast majority of the time. And the fact that no one I'm with ever seems to get why I do or half the time understand that they don't need to keep healing the pld at 90% hp and instead cure me
And welll zeffy and stoneskin take way too long to cast.
Really if I could get away with not /nin I'd much rather do something to increase my dmg than mp pool. Especially once I get the 10 refresh atma /drool
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-10-30 08:59:02
Dunno how you don't run out of mp, I find myself riding convert at like 2 minutes remaining. Atmas and Battery Charge help keep me somewhat busy until it's back though, and I just end up spamming headbutts.
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-10-30 09:16:58
Bahamut.Dasva said: And so increased DW is slightly useful. Meh, not when well over 95% of your damage is coming from spells lol.
I just find subbing /NIN to be so inefficient. The only two useful things it gives you in a group scenario is Dual Wield and Utsusemi. Dual Wield of course being useless with the introduction of two spells that you're likely to have on almost 100% of the time being used in creating the trait, and Utsusemi really only ever being useful against a couple AoE's.
Though I agree with you Dasva that /THF would actually be really dang handy. I've always wanted to use it practically, and I honestly can't wait for the 90main/45sub level when you can finally get Hide out of the job. I've always wanted to plant one of my 2100-damage QC's with a 1600-damage Distortion on a Paladin or Ninja in my party XD
Me, I don't have any good Atmas yet so I'm pretty much bound to Convert to keep my damage going.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 09:24:53
Hence the slightly part lol.
Also screw 2100 dmg QCs. I'm hitting 3-4k Vanity dives and Benthic typhoons. And I'm still using meh old str/dex sets and only have +10 to stats from abysitte/cruor buffs. Really need to make straight dex/agi sets for those...
Also yeah refresh atmas make convert kinda useless. Well for blu most the time. I'd love to lower the recast on the spells. Then I wouldn't have to use 4 diffferent dmg spells lol
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By Caitsith.Jessie 2010-10-30 09:29:27
Bahamut.Dasva said: Also screw 2100 dmg QCs. I'm hitting 3-4k Vanity dives and Benthic typhoons. Yeah... I'm pretty dang casual. I don't have much in terms of good gear. I don't even have a Suppa yet >_>
Here's a list I made of spells I think we might see as we level up the rest of Blue Mage.
Brainjack (Long-Armed Chariot) - About as useful as the BRD charm spell...
Level 5 Petrify (Ahrimans) - Inneffective on NMs.
Hurricane Wing (Fafhogg) - Flash type blind and AoE Wind damage, similiar to Actinic Burst but with small damage too.
Earth/Aqua Breath (Aspid) - Next tier breath spell for BLU, 2/3rds based HP instead of 1/2th with Heat Breath.
Flame Armor (Behemoth) - Let's face it, they won't give us Meteor, and if they give us Thunderbolt, it will be trashy.
Diffusion Ray (Chariots) - Another option for a higher tier breath spell.
Roller Chain (Ramparts) - AoE Damage and Bind
Restoral (Gears) - Pollen-like spell for Cure V+ potency
Lava Spit (Cerberus) - AoE Fire Damage
Slaverous Gale (Sandworm) - Conal frontal damage
Tail Lash (Amphipteres) - Physical damage, higher when behind the monster
Heliovoid (Vampyr) - Absorbs a random stat from target monster
Sinker Drill (Acrolith) - Single target physical damage
Fossilizing Breath (Khimaira) - Like Level 5 Petrify, unlikely to land on many things
Electrocharge (Spheroids) - Like Regurgitation, a useful Thunder-based nuke for BLU
Pyric Bulwark (Hydra) - High physical resistance(phalanx-like) for a very short duration
Cackle (Dvergr) - MAB, MACC, and MDB down to target monster
Asthenic Fog (Yovra) - AoE Drown, like Cold Wave
Could learn all 5 of the Simulcra statue abilities as well:
Seismostomp - AoE Damage and Stun
Lead Breath - Cone Attack Weight
Numbing Glare - Gaze Paralyze
Tormentful Glare - Gaze Curse
Torpid Glare - Gaze Sleep
With the release of the CoP area level cap, I think we'll have access to empty abilities too:
Quadratic Continuum (Gorget) - 4-hit physical attack
Murk (Cravers) - AoE Weight and Slow, like Mysterious Light, but with slow effect too
Empty Seed (Memory Receptacle) - AoE Knockback and Damage
Vanity Strike (Seether) - Yet another stun ability for BLU
Winds of Promyvion (Thinkers) - Erase
Vanity Dive (Wanderers) - Single target damage
Auroral Drape (Weepers) - AoE Blind and Silence
Maybe even some Ultima and Omega spells >.>
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