Love it or hate it, for good or for bad, we probably just witnessed the most historic and far-reaching legislative vote of our generation.
As a red-name, I'm not going to take sides either way. Regardless, it will most certainly be seen as a landmark decision in US politics for a long time to come.
Health Care Reform Passes
Health Care Reform Passes
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dont think I'll be seeing ya'll this November.
Most interesting! I'm eager to see how this bill will change things in the years to come, as well as how it will change as well. It's not perfect, but at least we're seeing something, anything finally change. Whether or not it is for good or for bad, well, we're gonna find out in due time.
With this out of the way, or at least passed, I wonder what the next major issue we're going to see is? Any guesses?
With this out of the way, or at least passed, I wonder what the next major issue we're going to see is? Any guesses?
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Gilgamesh.Aerokii said:
Any guesses?
But I'm guessing it'll be something environmental.
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Asura.Ludoggy said:
Gilgamesh.Aerokii said:
Any guesses?
But I'm guessing it'll be something environmental.
>_< You raise a valid issue, but I think we all became a bit over saturated on banking business last year (Which isn't to say I wouldn't love to hear more about it- specifically, an actual solution.)
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It actually makes me happy it passed. I just wish we could have gotten an even more liberal bill(public option) through the senate. I don't understand why so many hate something that is going to help so many people. Like it or hate it, at least SOMETHING got done in his first term, which we should note... a politician that actually kept a campaign promise.
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As a complete and total outsider to the discussion (and I don't care), didn't the healthcare system in America totally suck balls? Surely any change (I have no idea what the change is) will be for better?
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ugggg, i'm not happy that i'll now be required to pay penalties for not having health insurance
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One more step towards socialism. America is going down the gutter with Obama.
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my guess is, I serious hope their next large concern is the tax. its a killr imo. I understand for the Tax hike where i live and reasons behind it but there has to be other means
Gilgamesh.Aerokii said:
Most interesting! I'm eager to see how this bill will change things in the years to come, as well as how it will change as well. It's not perfect, but at least we're seeing something, anything finally change. Whether or not it is for good or for bad, well, we're gonna find out in due time. With this out of the way, or at least passed, I wonder what the next major issue we're going to see is? Any guesses?
my guess is, I serious hope their next large concern is the tax. its a killr imo. I understand for the Tax hike where i live and reasons behind it but there has to be other means
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Odin.Blazza said:
As a complete and total outsider to the discussion (and I don't care), didn't the healthcare system in America totally suck balls? Surely any change (I have no idea what the change is) will be for better?
No, the health care didn't suck. It does have major issues as anyone would admit, but this is only going to screw us even more.
Let's see, we are already facing a massive shortage in primary care physicians, let's add 30 million more people to an ever decreasing number of doctors and see how this works out.
So *** sick of the government. Both parties.
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Fenrir.Gimmeurselables said:
One more step towards socialism. America is going down the gutter with Obama.
Remora.Aneu said:
I just love to read about this kind of stuff.
Al Gore should stick to his guns and invent something new and wonderful like how he invented the Internets. o;
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Welcome to the rest of the modern world, America.
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Odin.Blazza said:
As a complete and total outsider to the discussion (and I don't care), didn't the healthcare system in America totally suck balls? Surely any change (I have no idea what the change is) will be for better?
yeah our healthcare sucks already. alot of people actually without it. This mater seems more less to me like when welfare was passed for women with childern.
Just diference is, now we'll give people without healthcare, a chance to get it? anyone below 65 that is or so thats how it looks to me.
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Odin.Equivocator said:
Welcome to the rest of the modern world, America.
I think our government and the rest of the world have some sort of false belief that we actually want to be like the rest of the world.
Take it as "arrogant asshat American" if you want, but most of the citizens here consider the U.S. to be better than any other country on this planet, and any steps in becoming like anyone else is a step down.
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We American's dont use the metric system...so no matter what we will be cave men to the rest of the far superior world...
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Anyone who thinks that they are 100% perfect just as they are is 100% flawed.
The world changes, people change. If you stay the same, you get left behind.
The world changes, people change. If you stay the same, you get left behind.
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<3 these threads with self-trashing Americans. They're hilarious.
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Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Odin.Blazza said:
As a complete and total outsider to the discussion (and I don't care), didn't the healthcare system in America totally suck balls? Surely any change (I have no idea what the change is) will be for better?
Do we have the whole Subscription too?
vaild point. However with the shortage, i do believe there is a serious shortage of MD's that actually do proper treatment vs just doing it for the money instead of actually careing.
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Odin.Equivocator said:
Welcome to the rest of the modern world, America.
I think our government and the rest of the world have some sort of false belief that we actually want to be like the rest of the world.
Take it as "arrogant asshat American" if you want, but most of the citizens here consider the U.S. to be better than any other country on this planet, and any steps in becoming like anyone else is a step down.
silly America
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I am extremely happy this passed!
Edit: I don't agree with Frobeus at all!
Edit: I don't agree with Frobeus at all!
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I woulda been much happier if this had passed with no backhanded deals and bribery.
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I wish most Americans who have internet access could put a little of their own, original, thought in their posts. Not copy talking points you heard on Fox News. Or maybe even try to have some understanding for average American, not generalize and talk down your own country like you're a snobby European/Aussie.
Edit: Reason for two earlier posts already deleted is pretty obvious. It's already evident this won't be a serious discussion on any matter, I feel bad for OP. Thanks for trying man, was curious what people would say but FFXI players being as immature as ever. If I wanted to read this garbage I'd go on Youtube.
Edit: Reason for two earlier posts already deleted is pretty obvious. It's already evident this won't be a serious discussion on any matter, I feel bad for OP. Thanks for trying man, was curious what people would say but FFXI players being as immature as ever. If I wanted to read this garbage I'd go on Youtube.
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Fenrir.Gimmeurselables said:
One more step towards socialism. America is going down the gutter with Obama.
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Well we have already started the butthurt down rating.
See you crazy left loons and racist righties in another thread.
See you crazy left loons and racist righties in another thread.
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Ragnarok.Blindphleb said:
I am extremely happy this passed! Edit: I don't agree with Frobeus at all!
You don't agree that adding more people to a shrinking pool of doctors is going to create problems?
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