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 Hades.Stefanos
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-01-28 19:33:47
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Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 2
Blue Mage 5
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 4
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 5
Ranger 8
Red Mage 5
Samurai 7
Scholar 5
Summoner 4
Thief 7
Warrior 6
White Mage 3

For those still keeping track.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-01-28 19:33:48
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Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 2
Blue Mage 5
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 4
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 5
Ranger 8
Red Mage 5
Samurai 7
Scholar 5
Summoner 4
Thief 7
Warrior 6
White Mage 3
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-28 19:34:11
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Remora.Ninian said:
Gilgamesh.Mytoy said:
Surely COR makes up the lost benefit to the other DDs

I'll settle with cor = brd, brd maybe...slightly better.

But who parties with just one?!?!

COR BRD > all~

COR BRD DNC :<

BRD>COR, Elegy 'sup.
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-01-28 19:35:34
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Fairy.Vegetto said:
Remora.Ninian said:
Gilgamesh.Mytoy said:
Surely COR makes up the lost benefit to the other DDs

I'll settle with cor = brd, brd maybe...slightly better.

But who parties with just one?!?!

COR BRD > all~

COR BRD DNC :<

BRD>COR, Elegy 'sup.
Smartest person evar

Thank you sir!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-28 19:36:03
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Remora.Ninian said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Remora.Ninian said:
Gilgamesh.Mytoy said:
Surely COR makes up the lost benefit to the other DDs

I'll settle with cor = brd, brd maybe...slightly better.

But who parties with just one?!?!

COR BRD > all~

COR BRD DNC :<

BRD>COR, Elegy 'sup.
Smartest person evar

Thank you sir!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-28 19:37:43
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You're comparing slow + earth shot vs base elegy

Try slow + elegy vs slow + earth shot.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-01-28 19:40:27
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Both have their benefits and downsides. I know that's a lame, cliche'd response, but seriously, it still applies here. COR is better in almost every conceivable way, except that they lack Haste.

Though just doing some quick mental math, Samurai roll (With a SAM in the party) increases a SAM/DRK/WAR/DRG's WS frequency by at least 20% which is almost a 20% increase in overall damage. Polearm SAM can go from 5-hit to 4-hit which is almost a 25% increase in overall damage.

I know, in most circumstances, you'll have Haste and Haste gear which will cause Marchx2's usefulness to rise exponentially, but regardless, COR is only using one roll to increase WS frequency by 20%, and the other roll can be Corsair's Roll, for a 15-20% increase to exp gained. Now all of a sudden COR gives that 35-40% increase while all BRD gives is 20% Haste from both songs combined. (Even though in most situations, that double March is closer to a 33-40% increase anyway...)

My point is, just because you don't look like you're visually attacking faster, doesn't mean you're not doing more damage or getting better exp overall. Ideally, you'd have both jobs in your party, yes. But if you don't have the option, the two jobs are interchangeable provided the COR doesn't mind pulling.

Edit: People will always have their bias. Mytoy is COR, so obviously he prefers COR. Ninian is BRD so obviously she prefers BRD.

Edit2: in really top-tier merit parties, a BRD would be pulling with Mamoolbane, Trollbane, Lamiabane to eliminate the time wasted waiting for the Colibri to cast Elegy. It's not fair to argue that BRD has Elegy, therefore it's better.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-28 19:40:39
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I still don't get that. Max potency slow II which you have to merit doesn't even come close to an elegy casted by a nekkid brd. Makes me /rage
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-01-28 19:41:51
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Enternius said:
Both have their benefits and downsides. I know that's a lame, cliche'd response, but seriously, it still applies here. COR is better in almost every conceivable way, except that they lack Haste.

Though just doing some quick mental math, Samurai roll (With a SAM in the party) increases a SAM/DRK/WAR/DRG's WS frequency by at least 20% which is almost a 20% increase in overall damage. Polearm SAM can go from 5-hit to 4-hit which is almost a 25% increase in overall damage.

I know, in most circumstances, you'll have Haste and Haste gear which will cause Marchx2's usefulness to rise exponentially, but regardless, COR is only using one roll to increase WS frequency by 20%, and the other roll can be Corsair's Roll, for a 15-20% increase to exp gained. Now all of a sudden COR gives that 35-40% increase while all BRD gives is 20% Haste from both songs combined. (Even though in most situations, that double March is closer to a 33-40% increase anyway...)

My point is, just because you don't look like you're visually attacking faster, doesn't mean you're not doing more damage or getting better exp overall. Ideally, you'd have both jobs in your party, yes. But if you don't have the option, the two jobs are interchangeable provided the COR doesn't mind pulling.

:D
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-28 19:42:50
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Well monsters massacre elegies is 100% slow so if they can do it to us at 100%, don't see a reason why we couldn't do it to them.
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By Valefor.Ivaan 2010-01-28 19:46:30
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DRK +1
PUP -1

go go ^_^
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By Fairy.Darkei 2010-01-28 19:53:38
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Siren.Enternius said:

People will always have their bias. Mytoy is COR, so obviously he prefers COR. Ninian is BRD so obviously she prefers BRD.

/drama
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By Phoenix.Slytribal 2010-01-28 19:54:59
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Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 2
Blue Mage 5
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 5
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 4
Ranger 8
Red Mage 5
Samurai 7
Scholar 5
Summoner 4
Thief 7 +1 (8)
Warrior 6 -1 (5)
White Mage 3
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-28 19:55:24
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The problem with sam roll is alot of endgame melees have already set there store tp to an amount that perfectly or nearly perfectly gets them too 100% in a certain number of hits.

So how effective a full effect sam roll is highly dependent on each player it hits. Will it get them there 1 or 2 attack rounds faster? Or maybe more who knows.
 
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By Fairy.Heillon 2010-01-28 19:59:25
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Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 2 +1 (3)
Blue Mage 5
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 5
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 4
Ranger 8
Red Mage 5
Samurai 7
Scholar 5
Summoner 4
Thief 8
Warrior 5
White Mage 3 -1 (2)

What? No love for the pwn beastmaster job?
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By semimmortal 2010-01-28 20:00:37
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+1 BLU
-1 DRK

This quote kinda explains the reason of my vote:
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People think Dark Knights are the emo-boys of FFXI.

They ain't got nothin' on us Blue Mages. We kill monsters, eat their souls, and we don't even use barbecue sauce. And we're still hungry.

We're ***.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-28 20:01:37
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Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 3
Blue Mage 5
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 5
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 4
Ranger 8
Red Mage 5 +1 (6)
Samurai 7
Scholar 5
Summoner 4
Thief 8
Warrior 5
White Mage 2 -1 (1)
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-01-28 20:02:48
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semimmortal said:
1 BLU
-1 DRK

This quote kinda explains the reason of my vote:
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People think Dark Knights are the emo-boys of FFXI.

They ain't got nothin' on us Blue Mages. We kill monsters, eat their souls, and we don't even use barbecue sauce. And we're still hungry.

We're ***.
So you're saying BLU is kinda like this?

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By semimmortal 2010-01-28 20:07:56
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Siren.Enternius said:
So you're saying BLU is kinda like this?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/tarheel4104/1164590723294ec3.jpg

Lmao! Could possibly be it (only switch it with a soulflayer pic lol).
And because I can't edit my previous post, gonna post it here~
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Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 3
Blue Mage 5 +1 (6)
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 5 -1 (4)
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 4
Ranger 8
Red Mage 6
Samurai 7
Scholar 5
Summoner 4
Thief 8
Warrior 5
White Mage 1
Poor WHMs :(
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-01-28 20:10:28
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+1 SCH, -1 WHM.

Shame. WHM used to actually be useful, before WotG.
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-01-28 20:12:51
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And WHM is out of the game!

Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 3
Blue Mage 6
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 4
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 4
Ranger 8
Red Mage 6
Samurai 7
Scholar 6
Summoner 4
Thief 8
Warrior 5

Glad to see someone gave some SCH love by the way.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2010-01-28 20:13:54
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Current with Bart's, Semi's, and Enternius'

Black Mage 4
Beastmaster 3
Blue Mage 6
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 4
Dragoon 6
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 4
Ranger 8
Red Mage 6
Samurai 6
Scholar 6
Summoner 4
Thief 8
Warrior 5
White Mage 0
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By Gilgamesh.Astrida 2010-01-28 20:17:56
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+1 COR
-1 BST
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-01-28 20:18:37
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Siren.Enternius said:
semimmortal said:
1 BLU
-1 DRK

This quote kinda explains the reason of my vote:
Quote:
People think Dark Knights are the emo-boys of FFXI.

They ain't got nothin' on us Blue Mages. We kill monsters, eat their souls, and we don't even use barbecue sauce. And we're still hungry.

We're ***.
So you're saying BLU is kinda like this?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/tarheel4104/1164590723294ec3.jpg
If it wasn't for how hard that made me laugh I'd have to hurt you two for that ;( Also, I found my new profile comment.

Why the hate on WHM? I can understand BRD as it's a snooze job unless you're on of the rare players who enjoys it, but WHM as the second job eliminated kind of surprised me.
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