Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
That has to be Amnesty based off his writing style. Let me block that account too.
Limbus 2025
Limbus 2025
I have seen Amnesty yelling for this exact composition and strategy since this account brought it up.
Well if you go back to page 80
There is a Youtube video in the write up
Next level genius
You and Buukki
There is a Youtube video in the write up
Next level genius
You and Buukki
Asura.Hya said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
That has to be Amnesty based off his writing style. Let me block that account too.
I think his main accounts got banned on this website because he would send me messages like this from his other socks when I didn't agree with his posts. Last year (deleted the originals from ffxiah but outlook still has record of them).
Same exact broken paragraph writing style.
For whatever reason, he keeps sending me tells in game. I have him blocked there too but answering machine still records the tells and I see them on the playback. Might have to just stop using that addon to avoid the harassment
Amnesty does get the credit for it
You made bro?
Page 80
That's them no?
You made bro?
Page 80
That's them no?
Stop acting like your a saint Buukki
There's posts of you being a butt clown
I bet it was retaliation to something you said
There's posts of you being a butt clown
I bet it was retaliation to something you said
Idk what to call the guy because he has 100 ffxiah accounts, but i also noticed the same broken speaking style immediately. Toxic POS with nothing to add except insults a 12-year-old would be proud of.
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Your the toxic POS
That can't mind your business
100 eh..
That's how stupid you are
Where did you go to school?
Try 3
An it should only be one
But people like you are cry babies
What's it like having a vagina?
The 40+ year old male cry baby
How's that going for you bro?
Is your hand your only lover?
It's better than being proud of playing a video game
Haha loser
Make sure you put that on your tombstone
That you beat Final Fantasy 11!
Hopefully you choke to death on a hot dog
Would be an ironic end for a goof like you
That can't mind your business
100 eh..
That's how stupid you are
Where did you go to school?
Try 3
An it should only be one
But people like you are cry babies
What's it like having a vagina?
The 40+ year old male cry baby
How's that going for you bro?
Is your hand your only lover?
It's better than being proud of playing a video game
Haha loser
Make sure you put that on your tombstone
That you beat Final Fantasy 11!
Hopefully you choke to death on a hot dog
Would be an ironic end for a goof like you
I love this video game's community so much.
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2 minute average per floor and I'm gonna safely presume you used your best content for the video. If I'm making a demo video, I'm using my A+ content I recorded, not my C tier garbo. Anyways, 36+ minutes with 6 humans is nothing to write home about.
No
It was like the second run
After testing magic WS
With a random pick up group
It's not like it was some static
Circle jerk
There was also a group that started before us
And we passed them a few floors in
It was like the second run
After testing magic WS
With a random pick up group
It's not like it was some static
Circle jerk
There was also a group that started before us
And we passed them a few floors in
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Same exact broken paragraph writing style.
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A circumvention?
How blatant can one guy be?
Meet again your ban.
How blatant can one guy be?
Meet again your ban.
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Don't worry
I'll be back
Flex your internet wiener bro!
Your such a big tough man!
Still another 97 accounts to make...
Next one will be > vyre the little boy lover
Just so you know
See you guys
Next free login campaign
Not wasting $1 on you people again
You guys are so full of poop
I can smell you from here
Butt hurt cause you only can copy / pasta
What JP players do
And need every third party cheat just to play
I'll be back
Flex your internet wiener bro!
Your such a big tough man!
Still another 97 accounts to make...
Next one will be > vyre the little boy lover
Just so you know
See you guys
Next free login campaign
Not wasting $1 on you people again
You guys are so full of poop
I can smell you from here
Butt hurt cause you only can copy / pasta
What JP players do
And need every third party cheat just to play
Can we keep him for entertainment, pretty please?
Damn, nvm.
Asura.Vyre said: »
A circumvention?
How blatant can one guy be?
Meet again your ban.
How blatant can one guy be?
Meet again your ban.
Omniman said: »
No SAM for Limbus, camp spot site with 99999 dmg, but is it for Mumei like 60000 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 99999 dmg instead? or half is 30k for 60000 dmg?
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Um whatever that was... I mostly pointed out the power of hybrids because many had previously writen them off in limbus and I think there's value in pointing out alternate builds especially ones that don't really call for primes.
That said it doesn't necessarily make them more efficient, dead in 2 ws is dead in 2 ws regardless of how much bigger you make the numbers and obviously magical builds require malaise and everything that comes with that and at least duo i have to use hoxne to max out and I don't love that for limbus. I used to use trueflight rng which also easily hit 99999 but trying to work on other master levels now.
That said it doesn't necessarily make them more efficient, dead in 2 ws is dead in 2 ws regardless of how much bigger you make the numbers and obviously magical builds require malaise and everything that comes with that and at least duo i have to use hoxne to max out and I don't love that for limbus. I used to use trueflight rng which also easily hit 99999 but trying to work on other master levels now.
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Wotasu said: »
As soon as someone else claims/Lullaby the mob he aggroed but didnt tag, the bubble would have 0 effect.
I'm not even quite sure if the bubble has any effect on merely aggro alone, but it would be easy to test. Indi-Poison, aggro something and check their health. If it never ticks down, Geomancy never activates until you are hostile towards enemy. But I actually never checked this to confirm, so I am not sure.
I could also be wrong here, but I think spikes effects damage done to an enemy (i.e. Ice Spikes) DO put you on an enemy's hate list, since the damage came from you. Anyone know for sure? (In such a case, GEO could pull with Indi-Barrier/Ice Spikes, and so long as they get hit once by enemy, they are auto-tagged. Theory though)
I read about this some year or 2 ago about it and that it worked with Indi-Gravity.
Just to get proof of it myself I went with indipoison, as you suggested and aggroed a mob, and it's HP ticked down steadily.
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Seems easier to stack some minne on the geo and let them lead the way and gather/agrod the mobs then if you want easy luopon tagging
Asura.Toralin said: »
Seems easier to stack some minne on the geo and let them lead the way and gather/agrod the mobs then if you want easy luopon tagging
Asura.Toralin said: »
Seems easier to stack some minne on the geo and let them lead the way and gather/agrod the mobs then if you want easy luopon tagging
You're fundamentally misunderstanding the difference between tagging geomancy and geomancy being applied on initial aggro. What Wotasu was testing/confirming was that initial aggro did proc geomancy, but once aggro is lost, geomancy effects are lost because you are no longer on the monster's aggro/hate list. You need to actively be on a monster's hate list for Geomancy to take any effect.
Let's say you aggro 5 mobs and have Indi-Paralyze on yourself as GEO. All mobs have paralyze aura. Now a PLD uses Banishga. None of the mobs can ever proc "Paralyze" because initial aggro is lost. If the PLD somehow warped or died, none of the mobs would run back to the GEO (unless he either acted on the PLD or any of the mobs). If you tagged Geomancy on mobs and then died, raised and cast an indi-bubble without performing a hostile action, that bubble would also be ineffective because you have not established any hate on the monster. It's the same as it's always been.
The exception to this might be ambuscade, because all mobs in there have zone-wide hate and any action by anybody registers hate on everything.
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Toralin said: »
Seems easier to stack some minne on the geo and let them lead the way and gather/agrod the mobs then if you want easy luopon tagging
You're fundamentally misunderstanding the difference between tagging geomancy and geomancy being applied on initial aggro. What Wotasu was testing/confirming was that initial aggro did proc geomancy, but once aggro is lost, geomancy effects are lost because you are no longer on the monster's aggro/hate list. You need to actively be on a monster's hate list for Geomancy to take any effect.
Let's say you aggro 5 mobs and have Indi-Paralyze on yourself as GEO. All mobs have paralyze aura. Now a PLD uses Banishga. None of the mobs can ever proc "Paralyze" because initial aggro is lost. If the PLD somehow warped or died, none of the mobs would run back to the GEO (unless he either acted on the PLD or any of the mobs). If you tagged Geomancy on mobs and then died, raised and cast an indi-bubble without performing a hostile action, that bubble would also be ineffective because you have not established any hate on the monster. It's the same as it's always been.
The exception to this might be ambuscade, because all mobs in there have zone-wide hate and any action by anybody registers hate on everything.
Idk when or how this testing was done, but I had the opposite experience. Pulled mobs in sortie basement by aggroing on GEO, got 0 paralyze procs.
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
If you tagged Geomancy on mobs and then died, raised and cast an indi-bubble without performing a hostile action, that bubble would also be ineffective because you have not established any hate on the monster.
captain pedant reporting in to point out that dying only resets hate if you reach the top of the hate list while dead (same for zoning/logging out).. if mob aims to turn to you and you're no longer a valid target, you're taken off hate list but otherwise you can sit in the middle of it while dead or gone
obviously, you most typically have hate while dying but aoes and other mobs do exist
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Idk when or how this testing was done, but I had the opposite experience. Pulled mobs in sortie basement by aggroing on GEO, got 0 paralyze procs.
Aggroed with an action or walking into range for sight/sound? A passive aggro (sight, link, etc) doesn't build a hate list. This is why super tanking works.
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People are suggesting that a geo aggroing a mob without claim will have any indi/geo debuffs affect the mobs as long as they are attacking the geo despite not being on the hate list.
I just tested and it seems to work that way:
Test 1- Cast indi poison, rest near mob long enough to aggro it, watch HP tick down. ("invalid because resting put you on hate list", I think that only applies after a tick, but regardless)
Test 2- claim a mob that can link, then link a mob to it. Watch HP tick down from linked mob.
Test 3- walk up and aggro a mob that I know aggros, watch HP tick away.
I'll be honest, I didnt know this. I thought hate list was required. But I think its also pretty impractical since the moment someone acts on it, the debuff wears off unless the geo puts themself back on the hate list. Might as well have pld banishga or brd lullaby then cast cure on that person and have that issue covered.
edit: this might not be entirely conclusive since it was with indi and not geo. I never picked up any easily deducible geo-debuffs and I'm too lazy to look up where to get geo-poison/para
I just tested and it seems to work that way:
Test 1- Cast indi poison, rest near mob long enough to aggro it, watch HP tick down. ("invalid because resting put you on hate list", I think that only applies after a tick, but regardless)
Test 2- claim a mob that can link, then link a mob to it. Watch HP tick down from linked mob.
Test 3- walk up and aggro a mob that I know aggros, watch HP tick away.
I'll be honest, I didnt know this. I thought hate list was required. But I think its also pretty impractical since the moment someone acts on it, the debuff wears off unless the geo puts themself back on the hate list. Might as well have pld banishga or brd lullaby then cast cure on that person and have that issue covered.
edit: this might not be entirely conclusive since it was with indi and not geo. I never picked up any easily deducible geo-debuffs and I'm too lazy to look up where to get geo-poison/para
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Idk when or how this testing was done, but I had the opposite experience. Pulled mobs in sortie basement by aggroing on GEO, got 0 paralyze procs.
Sortie has geo debuff nerfs, why would u wanna test it in there? ... could test it anywhere else.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
edit: this might not be entirely conclusive since it was with indi and not geo. I never picked up any easily deducible geo-debuffs and I'm too lazy to look up where to get geo-poison/para
Isn't it ironic how you're lazy to check such a simple thing, yet you're willing to write all these answers? Can you see it...?
Geo-Para Fei Yin, Geo-Poison East Ronfarue.. it wasn't hard xD
Asura.Ayahuasca said: »
Sortie has geo debuff nerfs, why would u wanna test it in there? ... could test it anywhere else.
I did this testing like a week ago, for something unrelated. Regardless, I saw 0 para procs for like 2 minutes. Then I tagged it and got paralyzes constantly.
Maybe there's a difference between indi Para, poison, gravity, etc. But I'm extremely confident in saying paralyze doesn't proc on mobs you've aggro'd.
paladinepsot said: »
Aggroed with an action or walking into range for sight/sound? A passive aggro (sight, link, etc) doesn't build a hate list. This is why super tanking works.
Aggro'd as the way literally everyone uses the term. The mob started attacking me without my instigating. If I wanted to describe using an action on the mob, I'd say I pulled a mob. It would also completely defeat the purpose of the tests, and I'm not that dumb.
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Asura.Ayahuasca said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Idk when or how this testing was done, but I had the opposite experience. Pulled mobs in sortie basement by aggroing on GEO, got 0 paralyze procs.
Sortie has geo debuff nerfs, why would u wanna test it in there? ... could test it anywhere else.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
edit: this might not be entirely conclusive since it was with indi and not geo. I never picked up any easily deducible geo-debuffs and I'm too lazy to look up where to get geo-poison/para
Isn't it ironic how you're lazy to check such a simple thing, yet you're willing to write all these answers? Can you see it...?
Geo-Para Fei Yin, Geo-Poison East Ronfarue.. it wasn't hard xD
Takes much longer for me to look up where to get those easily noticable geo-debuffs, unlock it, then redo test.
For someone calling me lazy, i havent seen you do anything.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
edit: this might not be entirely conclusive since it was with indi and not geo. I never picked up any easily deducible geo-debuffs and I'm too lazy to look up where to get geo-poison/para
Why would this matter? Indi is a self-cast debuff, it's the perfect thing to use to test a Geomancy proc during an aggro. The moment you use a GEO spell you will tag that mob so you would need you observe the behavior on a second or third mob. The Indi poison test was simple enough to suggest aggro alone does activate Indi.
Regardless, Wotasu's claim is true that you can initiate Geomancy from aggro alone but that it's lost the moment aggro is lost to a hate action from someone else, impractical or not. I don't really see a use case here for it, it was suggested by that other guy who got banned because he's probably doesn't have a clue how it works either. And Toralin misunderstood, that's all.
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