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KujahFoxfire said: » Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget said: » So, I went in solo, Did some objectives in A, moved to B area, I was in the room with Winf/Lightning elementals, fighting them and Cachaemic Bhoot popped. I thought he was a C NM, is that normal? The NMs are always up from the start but they can wander through locked doors and out of their own areas. Has anyone received an Old Case from a "Chest"? I received one from a "Casket" but neither are listed on BG as providing old cases. Only Coffers, which I can verify is not the only source.
Penpenn said: » FYI - Ghatjot took some very heavy damage from Tachi: Kagero last night. I was on the wrong macro bar and meant to do Tachi: Shoha while the group was spamming WS, but hit Tachi: Kagero instead for 92k. We did have fury/frailty bubble up. Additionally, we did full BLU Cleave on the Acuex and we did not proc the chest A objectives until we had the SCH go SC & MB their own mob. Not sure where the miss was on that. Last observation - 2 nights ago we ran and went into Leshonn's room to fight him, and he flat out did not spawn. We even left the room and re-entered, and verified all party members had the appropriate items (everyone could use the gadget). I'm going to chalk that one up to server lag or a bug, but not sure if anyone else has experienced Leshonn just not spawning. I went in as RNG yesterday and tried elementals kills with true flight, did 10 elementals, no chests drops, I moved to umbrils and got chests after x3 kills, and then another 3 kills {6 umbril kills only}, the only thing that changed was the mob, both were true flight spam, rng only doing dmg/actions
Sylph.Funkworkz said: » Has anyone received an Old Case from a "Chest"? I received one from a "Casket" but neither are listed on BG as providing old cases. Only Coffers, which I can verify is not the only source. Yes, I have gotten both Old Cases and Sapphires from blue chests. Asura.Cthaeh said: » Sylph.Funkworkz said: » Has anyone received an Old Case from a "Chest"? I received one from a "Casket" but neither are listed on BG as providing old cases. Only Coffers, which I can verify is not the only source. Yes, I have gotten both Old Cases and Sapphires from blue chests. How about Old Case +1? I have not gotten one yet myself.
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Sylph.Funkworkz said: » Asura.Cthaeh said: » Sylph.Funkworkz said: » Has anyone received an Old Case from a "Chest"? I received one from a "Casket" but neither are listed on BG as providing old cases. Only Coffers, which I can verify is not the only source. Yes, I have gotten both Old Cases and Sapphires from blue chests. How about Old Case +1? I have not gotten one yet myself. Now that I think about it, I want to say when we did get an Old Case +1, it was from /hurray at Device B which is a chest. I'll ask some LS mates later to confirm. I was satisfied with the earring. Peltast +1 with Crit Rate 4% and ACCs 13 Shiva.Cziella said: » I went in as RNG yesterday and tried elementals kills with true flight, did 10 elementals, no chests drops, I moved to umbrils and got chests after x3 kills, and then another 3 kills {6 umbril kills only}, the only thing that changed was the mob, both were true flight spam, rng only doing dmg/actions I'm going to have to bring a bunch of holy waters and try this tomorrow as three runs in a row now I've killed 20-25 elementals in a variety of ways and can only get metal and shard chest. Note I cannot do the 15k damage weaponskill as the final blow on elementals people are speaking of. The chest you got today, were any of them the blue one?
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Phoenix.Logical said: » Shiva.Cziella said: » I went in as RNG yesterday and tried elementals kills with true flight, did 10 elementals, no chests drops, I moved to umbrils and got chests after x3 kills, and then another 3 kills {6 umbril kills only}, the only thing that changed was the mob, both were true flight spam, rng only doing dmg/actions I'm going to have to bring a bunch of holy waters and try this tomorrow as three runs in a row now I've killed 20-25 elementals in a variety of ways and can only get metal and shard chest. Note I cannot do the 15k damage weaponskill as the final blow on elementals people are speaking of. The chest you got today, were any of them the blue one? Pretty sure these have to be B mobs weaknesses. When we did ours the first time, I got it using Tenebral Crush on Light elements for both KIs. Got them on the same pull. Asura.Cthaeh said: » Phoenix.Logical said: » Shiva.Cziella said: » I went in as RNG yesterday and tried elementals kills with true flight, did 10 elementals, no chests drops, I moved to umbrils and got chests after x3 kills, and then another 3 kills {6 umbril kills only}, the only thing that changed was the mob, both were true flight spam, rng only doing dmg/actions I'm going to have to bring a bunch of holy waters and try this tomorrow as three runs in a row now I've killed 20-25 elementals in a variety of ways and can only get metal and shard chest. Note I cannot do the 15k damage weaponskill as the final blow on elementals people are speaking of. The chest you got today, were any of them the blue one? Pretty sure these have to be B mobs weaknesses. When we did ours the first time, I got it using Tenebral Crush on Light elements for both KIs. Got them on the same pull. So there seems to be a lot of question about Casket #B1. Today, the update to the bgwiki page says the method is confirmed to be "7 Total 15K+ Kill shots on Biune foes (no SC), Any damage type counts." I'm posting the relevant bits of my log file from last night. I went with a PUP and split off from the rest of the group working on A objectives and teleported to the B portal, doing a quick /hurray for 1/7 on B ojectives before heading northeast to the fire elementals. The chest that spawned was definitely Casket #B1, a blue chest (evidenced by the lack of a shard or metal drop in the log). Not only did it NOT take 7 mobs to spawn, but all 4 of them were killed with a 3-step skillchain with the killing blow being skillchain damage. This contradicts almost every aspect of the "confirmed" method listed on bgwiki. Interestingly, Casket #B1 spawned BEFORE Chest #B3/#B4 I'd say this one is far from solved. Edit: I double-checked the logs, we got Chest #B3 (shard) from a leaden kill (no SC) on a fire elemental. We ended up clearing out the fire elementals before Chest #B4 popped, so we headed to the earth/darkness elemental camp. Got Chest #B4 to pop from an Earth elemental from a darkness skillchain.
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I reverted that. We got it on our 5th mob, so 7 is not the possible number, we also have other teams logs showing both 3rd & 4th kill dropping Casket B1.
I find it interesting you did 2 step skillchains. Our COR just spammed leaden, our RUN & I (RDM) did 2~4step skillcahins. Wonder if it's 2step skillchains that force the blue chest. {now part of today's tests} have to try again tomorrow. scuffed run where I had to quickly run off on my own to kill NMs because we spent 40 minutes in D for no GD reason. not happy about it. Cerberus.Kaht said: » Asura.Cthaeh said: » Phoenix.Logical said: » Shiva.Cziella said: » I went in as RNG yesterday and tried elementals kills with true flight, did 10 elementals, no chests drops, I moved to umbrils and got chests after x3 kills, and then another 3 kills {6 umbril kills only}, the only thing that changed was the mob, both were true flight spam, rng only doing dmg/actions I'm going to have to bring a bunch of holy waters and try this tomorrow as three runs in a row now I've killed 20-25 elementals in a variety of ways and can only get metal and shard chest. Note I cannot do the 15k damage weaponskill as the final blow on elementals people are speaking of. The chest you got today, were any of them the blue one? Pretty sure these have to be B mobs weaknesses. When we did ours the first time, I got it using Tenebral Crush on Light elements for both KIs. Got them on the same pull. So there seems to be a lot of question about Casket #B1. Today, the update to the bgwiki page says the method is confirmed to be "7 Total 15K+ Kill shots on Biune foes (no SC), Any damage type counts." I'm posting the relevant bits of my log file from last night. I went with a PUP and split off from the rest of the group working on A objectives and teleported to the B portal, doing a quick /hurray for 1/7 on B ojectives before heading northeast to the fire elementals. The chest that spawned was definitely Casket #B1, a blue chest (evidenced by the lack of a shard or metal drop in the log). Not only did it NOT take 7 mobs to spawn, but all 4 of them were killed with a 3-step skillchain with the killing blow being skillchain damage. This contradicts almost every aspect of the "confirmed" method listed on bgwiki. Interestingly, Casket #B1 spawned BEFORE Chest #B3/#B4 I'd say this one is far from solved. Edit: I double-checked the logs, we got Chest #B3 (shard) from a leaden kill (no SC) on a fire elemental. We ended up clearing out the fire elementals before Chest #B4 popped, so we headed to the earth/darkness elemental camp. Got Chest #B4 to pop from an Earth elemental from a darkness skillchain. No, this makes sense. A Darkness skillchain contains Darkness, Water, Ice, and Stone damage within it. This is why darkness skillchains work to proc some mobs in other content that need a lvl 2, and why W3 bosses will be cured from darkness skillchains if you leave some of the other agons alive. So your darkness skillchain is still technically killing the fire elemental with 'some' water damage. edit: for B3 anyway. B4 could be different. I put a day lock on the sortie page to alleviate this back and forth. Hopefully we can get some confirmations on Chest #B3 and #B4 with todays runs.
Edit: I will lift it sooner if we get solid proof
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Asura.Cthaeh said: » Cerberus.Kaht said: » Edit: I double-checked the logs, we got Chest #B3 (shard) from a leaden kill (no SC) on a fire elemental. We ended up clearing out the fire elementals before Chest #B4 popped, so we headed to the earth/darkness elemental camp. Got Chest #B4 to pop from an Earth elemental from a darkness skillchain. No, this makes sense. A Darkness skillchain contains Darkness, Water, Ice, and Stone damage within it. This is why darkness skillchains work to proc some mobs in other content that need a lvl 2, and why W3 bosses will be cured from darkness skillchains if you leave some of the other agons alive. So your darkness skillchain is still technically killing the fire elemental with 'some' water damage. edit: for B3 anyway. B4 could be different. That wasn't the case for B3, though. As I stated, B3 was killed with Leaden damage (dark damage, not darkness skillchain damage), specifically. B4 was a kill from skillchain damage on a earth elemental. Posting the relevant bits from the log for those 2 chests, as well: Why did people have to start calling the new points "muffins"?! Can we get a new name please?
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Bahamut.Jedigamer said: » Why did people have to start calling the new points "muffins"?! Can we get a new name please?
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Bahamut.Jedigamer said: » Why did people have to start calling the new points "muffins"?! Can we get a new name please? Say gallimaufry 10 times fast, and then re-ask your question?
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Sylph.Funkworkz said: » I put a day lock on the sortie page to alleviate this back and forth. Hopefully we can get some confirmations on Chest #B3 and #B4 with todays runs. Edit: I will lift it sooner if we get solid proof Bahamut.Jedigamer said: » Why did people have to start calling the new points "muffins"?! Can we get a new name please? 
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ez. Muffins, Muffins, Muffins, Muffins, Muffins, Muffins, Muffins, Muffins, Muffins, Muffins.
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Asura.Lordoftheseven said: » Sylph.Funkworkz said: » I put a day lock on the sortie page to alleviate this back and forth. Hopefully we can get some confirmations on Chest #B3 and #B4 with todays runs. Edit: I will lift it sooner if we get solid proof We've killed w/ only magic before in B and didn't see chest B3 or 4. Sylph.Funkworkz said: » Asura.Cthaeh said: » Sylph.Funkworkz said: » Has anyone received an Old Case from a "Chest"? I received one from a "Casket" but neither are listed on BG as providing old cases. Only Coffers, which I can verify is not the only source. Yes, I have gotten both Old Cases and Sapphires from blue chests. How about Old Case +1? I have not gotten one yet myself. Blue chests are "Caskets". "Chests" in Sortie are brown. By the way I can provide some context for Acuexes from the discussion on previous page. I have gotten both the Shard and Metal for A by having SCH do Fusion and kill each of 6 Acuexes in 2 nukes each. So there's definitely not a requirement for some number of non-killing nukes, unless that number is 1. It's still quite possible that there's a threshold on per-nuke or total magic damage, but I'm very skeptical of per-nuke since we've also had a newer BLU chip them down <10k at a time and still got both items in 6 kills.
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KujahFoxfire said: » Shiva.Cziella said: » I went in as RNG yesterday and tried elementals kills with true flight, did 10 elementals, no chests drops, I moved to umbrils and got chests after x3 kills, and then another 3 kills {6 umbril kills only}, the only thing that changed was the mob, both were true flight spam, rng only doing dmg/actions I think it specifically has to be elemental ws killshots, were some of the last hits auto attacks? No, I was using malevolence mh, and KC sub vs elementals... I was doing like 20 dmg with dagger and 1-4 with KC for TP, only haste buffs on lol Penpenn said: » Last observation - 2 nights ago we ran and went into Leshonn's room to fight him, and he flat out did not spawn. I'm going to chalk that one up to server lag or a bug, but not sure if anyone else has experienced Leshonn just not spawning. FYI Today Ghatjot did this to us. We had both key and plate, entered and the NM was not present. Exit, return nothing. It simply was not there, kinda frustrating. |
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