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 Asura.Icilies
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By Asura.Icilies 2020-05-13 22:25:45
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Our linkshell has multiple shields and since last patch we have all had drastic decreases in HQ rate. T0 and T1 HQs are all sitting at 2-4%.

Has anyone else with legit shields noticed anything off since last patch? I suppose it could be bad RNG but we have large sets of data to support something odd going on.

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By ArchaonXIII 2020-05-13 22:37:34
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Resolved Issues
The issue wherein certain synthesis-related functions were incorrect.

Ohhh they meant HQ rate, not the exploit.
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By Asura.Icilies 2020-05-13 22:42:01
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ArchaonXIII said: »
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Resolved Issues
The issue wherein certain synthesis-related functions were incorrect.

Ohhh they meant HQ rate, not the exploit.


Ya, I read that but we crafted alot on Saturday and all seemed normal.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-13 22:49:06
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I thought it was reduced as well. I've been recording all my synthesis data and by far it seems way worse under same conditions.

10 Aurg. Orbs +1 Support / Food (121 Skill | 70 subs)


Skrymir Cords +1 Support / Food (120 Skill | 70 subs)


Obviously no shield and naughty naughty naughty, but data is data.

*Note: Small samples, but still f all the synths I've seen, everything has been about 1.8-2.7% for me on HQ Rate. Today has been 1.1% or less with thousands of synths for obvious reason. (No shields, crap skill & gear)
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-05-13 22:54:06
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At least you have exploits to fall back on
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-13 22:59:30
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
At least you have exploits to fall back on
Edit, and facts. Ill burn a few accounts to get my gear back.
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By gistofanything 2020-05-13 23:28:48
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Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
At least you have exploits to fall back on
Edit, and facts. Ill burn a few accounts to get my gear back.
Wait burn my account too, would you?!
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2020-05-13 23:35:27
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Eli... why?
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-13 23:39:57
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Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
Eli... why?
You cant ask for an exploit on one thread, then 'tsk tsk' me in another. :/

*Edit: Unless I misunderstood.
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By Shiva.Martialartist 2020-05-13 23:48:15
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Well I guess your not crafting at the right times, MoonPhase/dayofweek/monthofyear etc....

Your all crafting at the wrong times. give it a few days then post your results...
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By Draylo 2020-05-13 23:49:00
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Stop cheating! Get your character back up the old fashioned way
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2020-05-13 23:50:20
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edit: removed for rudeness because I'm upset. whatever
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-13 23:50:51
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Shiva.Martialartist said: »
Well I guess your not crafting at the right times, MoonPhase/dayofweek/monthofyear etc....

Bet; break out the crafting chart boys!
On a Side note; thinking now it may be in fact that I have to be 1 skill over to HQ, and the other data could be chalked to bad RNG. I've still been thinking it was a lot worse today though then before patch.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-13 23:58:41
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Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
people need to hurry up and figure out how to get only loud thuds in aman trove instead of all this hq crafting stuff

My comment was in regards to this. People don't change; I didn't say I was going to stop doing what I do? My LS, and me have not changed anything about ourselves. Some people are about that life, others are not. One thing in common we have though is we don't turn our backs on each other over petty stuff like a game. Sorry if that upset you. Im not dumping my Items on the AH or causing pries to drop. Its for me, myself and I; well and a few other that got banned. If I get banned again well played SE! See you next month!
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By Asura.Slyshenx 2020-05-14 01:07:41
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Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
thinking now it may be in fact that I have to be 1 skill over to HQ

Nah, you can be AT it's level and still get HQ :)
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By Asura.Slyshenx 2020-05-14 01:09:20
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Asura.Icilies said: »
Has anyone else with legit shields

No lie, this made me chuckle. Your shields are 'legit' huh?
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-14 01:19:22
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Asura.Slyshenx said: »
Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
thinking now it may be in fact that I have to be 1 skill over to HQ

Nah, you can be AT it's level and still get HQ :)

Yeah 300 Synths and nothing, out of like 4-7k. It could have just been bad luck I guess, or good luck previously.
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By Asura.Slyshenx 2020-05-14 01:32:49
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Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
Asura.Slyshenx said: »
Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
thinking now it may be in fact that I have to be 1 skill over to HQ

Nah, you can be AT it's level and still get HQ :)

Yeah 300 Synths and nothing, out of like 4-7k. It could have just been bad luck I guess, or good luck previously.

Holy crap, on Aurgelmir Orbs?
I can usually go 1/24, if not 1/36, and worst I've done so far is 1/48ish. But I've also gone 2/12 and 2/24 one time each. I use t3 shield, 110 Bone, 70 all subs, Bone support, bone guild gear only (no subcraft gear), Ionis, coconut rusk and I always craft them on Wind Day. (Moonphase idgaf)

Even t0 is only about 60ish? I can't remember exact number. If you've HQ'd it before, you're probably just going through a bad luck streak. Just gotta power through it and it'll come back.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-14 01:46:10
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Asura.Slyshenx said: »
Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
Asura.Slyshenx said: »
Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
thinking now it may be in fact that I have to be 1 skill over to HQ

Nah, you can be AT it's level and still get HQ :)

Yeah 300 Synths and nothing, out of like 4-7k. It could have just been bad luck I guess, or good luck previously.

Holy crap, on Aurgelmir Orbs?
I can usually go 1/24, if not 1/36, and worst I've done so far is 1/48ish. But I've also gone 2/12 and 2/24 one time each. I use t3 shield, 110 Bone, 70 all subs, Bone support, bone guild gear only (no subcraft gear), Ionis, coconut rusk and I always craft them on Wind Day. (Moonphase idgaf)

Even t0 is only about 60ish? I can't remember exact number. If you've HQ'd it before, you're probably just going through a bad luck streak. Just gotta power through it and it'll come back.

Yeah thats what Im saying Stats above are on Orbs +1 and Cords +1 from last week and then today. It should'nt be 1/60 one day then 0/300 the next I wouldnt think. lol
 
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By RadialArcana 2020-05-14 03:09:54
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When people abuse stuff they just tweak the numbers negative a bit for a while to even everything out, drop rates, hq rates etc.
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By ksoze 2020-05-14 03:34:14
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I don't know why, but i love how you blatantly talk about your exploiting @elidyr.

My opinion is that ppl play this game with different motivations, I can imagine you also play it to find creative ways to write lua.

I do think you should not encourage ppl with this and that is the side effect of what you are doing.

The end responsibility is on SE of course, but you are opening doors that would be closed other wise in the mind of ppl.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-14 04:35:16
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ksoze said: »
I don't know why, but i love how you blatantly talk about your exploiting @elidyr.

My opinion is that ppl play this game with different motivations, I can imagine you also play it to find creative ways to write lua.

I do think you should not encourage ppl with this and that is the side effect of what you are doing.

The end responsibility is on SE of course, but you are opening doors that would be closed other wise in the mind of ppl.

I can agree with you on most this, but I don't encourage anyone to follow my footsteps; just more to do what YOU enjoy. I don't encourage making the game worse for others. You're absolutely correct on my motives. For the most part that's why I stay on a dead server, as I have plenty of friends all over. Probably because I do like having fun actually playing the game when I do.

I am human though sometimes I get pissy at other players, or have bad days, but I never wish that anyone not have something ruined that they enjoy. Which is why I mostly ignore request for said exploits, or free items. This is my 23rd account, I'm way passed enjoying doing all that stuff again with out some means of decreasing how long it takes me to do it all again.

Sorry didn't intend for that to be so long :D
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By Leviathan.Kingkitt 2020-05-14 04:59:14
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I'm roughly 1/8 on orbs with no shield at all. Friend with s3 shield is 1/10. Maybe SE is balancing out shields and giving us common folks a break!
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By Asura.Slyshenx 2020-05-14 06:13:25
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Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »
I'm roughly 1/8 on orbs with no shield at all. Friend with s3 shield is 1/10. Maybe SE is balancing out shields and giving us common folks a break!

While I know that was sarcasm, shield has nothing to do with reaching or attaining a certain tier to be able to have a better shot at HQ. You're chance with t1-t3 shield is just the same as it would be without a shield at all. Those extra +1-2 skill won't make a difference on orbs.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-14 06:22:14
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Got the neck today, gonna try at 122 see if it changes anything. If anyone is curious Ill post he results if wanted.

Edit: Only making 5.
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By Pantafernando 2020-05-14 06:33:16
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Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
This is my 23rd account

Go seek help
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By Asura.Slyshenx 2020-05-14 06:39:31
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Got the neck today, gonna try at 122 see if it changes anything. If anyone is curious Ill post he results if wanted.

Edit: Only making 5.

I could be and probably am wrong... but I don't think it will make a difference. (Couldn't hurt and never will!)

BG has it listed at (Bonecraft 115~120)
MAX Skill possible with everything (No Kupo=124 MAX, Kupo shield=125 MAX)
You would need either 126, or 131 Skill to be able to achieve the tier 1 synthesis HQ rate.

Like I said, I am terrible with numbers and I'm sure someone will correct me but I do not believe it is possible to enhance your chances with aurgelmir orbs at this current time or even any synthesis item above at or above 115. Just keep on keepin' on and you'll get em. xD
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2020-05-14 06:42:58
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Got the neck today, gonna try at 122 see if it changes anything. If anyone is curious Ill post he results if wanted.

Edit: Only making 5.

I could be and probably am wrong... but I don't think it will make a difference. (Couldn't hurt and never will!)

BG has it listed at (Bonecraft 115~120)
MAX Skill possible with everything (No Kupo=124 MAX, Kupo shield=125 MAX)
You would need either 126, or 131 Skill to be able to achieve the tier 1 synthesis HQ rate.

Like I said, I am terrible with numbers and I'm sure someone will correct me but I do not believe it is possible to enhance your chances with aurgelmir orbs at this current time or even any synthesis item above at or above 115. Just keep on keepin' on and you'll get em. xD

I got all my stuff I wanted back, just making a couple belts. Same thing though just cloth. Currently @122 / 70 sub. See how it goes after I nap for a few.
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By ksoze 2020-05-14 06:50:43
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Asura.Slyshenx said: »
Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
Got the neck today, gonna try at 122 see if it changes anything. If anyone is curious Ill post he results if wanted.

Edit: Only making 5.

I could be and probably am wrong... but I don't think it will make a difference. (Couldn't hurt and never will!)

BG has it listed at (Bonecraft 115~120)
MAX Skill possible with everything (No Kupo=124 MAX, Kupo shield=125 MAX)
You would need either 126, or 131 Skill to be able to achieve the tier 1 synthesis HQ rate.

Like I said, I am terrible with numbers and I'm sure someone will correct me but I do not believe it is possible to enhance your chances with aurgelmir orbs at this current time or even any synthesis item above at or above 115. Just keep on keepin' on and you'll get em. xD

I think you are missing a stat, you have "skill level" and you have "Increases rate of high-quality item synthesis success".

The last one is also available on shields which adds to the equation for getting hqs as far as i understand it.

But please correct me if i'm wrong.
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