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 Ragnarok.Martel
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-12-10 13:37:03
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Hmmm. While the descriptor matches (Arrogance for EV set), the names of the armor type are... weird.

Arrogance Masque, Jacket, Wristbands, Trousers, and Shoes.

And these uncurse into a Crown, Platemail, Gauntlets, Brais, and Sabatons?

Not that I think you're wrong, mind you. I don't see any other way this could work. But.. wtf SE? That ***makes no sense.
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By K123 2025-12-10 13:45:15
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If the gear is junk (did they say it will have augments or are we guessing?) then most the items will be cheap unless people pay just to own the sets for aesthetics or other reasons
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-12-10 13:46:59
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They have augments

No saying the quality of the augments. They could be dogshit. Just that they exist.
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By Sylph.Takutu 2025-12-10 14:02:02
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Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Hmmm. While the descriptor matches (Arrogance for EV set), the names of the armor type are... weird.

Arrogance Masque, Jacket, Wristbands, Trousers, and Shoes.

And these uncurse into a Crown, Platemail, Gauntlets, Brais, and Sabatons?

Not that I think you're wrong, mind you. I don't see any other way this could work. But.. wtf SE? That ***makes no sense.

I went purely off the item descriptions. Example:
Apathy Cuirass
A plated metal cuirass that is
completely devoid of hope. This item
cannot currently be equipped.

I took that description to mean it was for the Hope set.

Arrogance Jacket
A jacket that is completely devoid
of trust. This item cannot currently
be equipped.

I took that description to mean it was for the Trust set.

All pieces of the same cursed set have the same wording around Hope/Trust/Justice, etc. It's very possible the descriptions don't match the sets they uncurse, but that was the logic I used.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-12-10 14:07:46
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I know Simon sees potential with the cor/rng sets, but I see a continuation of a trend with SE. I don't know why, but SE seems utterly afraid to give other stats with crit rate. I don't consider PDL great, it's mostly very situational, you have to build completely around it, and in the most meaningful content for rng/cor it's completely useless.

Why is SE so afraid to give crit rate and STP, even on just one piece. Or crit rate and double/triple shot... Any combination of stats that would make these even remotely interesting.

Wish WHM was on the War/brd/nin set. Wish rdm was on the blm set that is clearly going to be a nuke set... just like every other set that blm/sch/geo/smn gets.
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By K123 2025-12-10 14:08:17
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
They have augments

No saying the quality of the augments. They could be dogshit. Just that they exist.
Gonna be acc/attack+20 stat+10
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By K123 2025-12-10 14:10:17
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For real though, I'm not super elitists pos but there (other than Ody V25 that you only have to beat once) no real challenging content in the game that sets hardworking players out from average Joe. No, primes do not. A prime is locked behind 6 months of psyches, 6 months is 180 days so to make 7,500,000 galli you technically only need to make 42k a day. Animon is not hard.
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By Ganache 2025-12-10 14:27:55
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K123 said: »
For real though, I'm not super elitists pos but there (other than Ody V25 that you only have to beat once) no real challenging content in the game that sets hardworking players out from average Joe. No, primes do not. A prime is locked behind 6 months of psyches, 6 months is 180 days so to make 7,500,000 galli you technically only need to make 42k a day. Animon is not hard.
With the exception of Absolute Virtue, no content was particularly difficult after we figured it out. You might as well say Salvage gear was locked behind bad drop rates or something. Relics were locked behind being super rich, buying gil (and then dyna currency), or having a dedicated LS to funnel resources to you (75 era). Mythics were locked behind the patience of obtaining enough alex (again, 75 era). Primes are locked behind having a dedicated/competent group of 6, or multiboxing, and getting your psyches.

All you are saying is that all in-game problems are solvable, and that all of the current in-game problems have been solved (by other people, and then you use their strategies, no doubt). Yes, this is true. But this was always true about FFXI after new content was available to good players for (approximately) a week (by their nature, this is true of all RPGs). The "gates" have always been a combination of knowledge, mechanics (before all the add-ons), patience/time, and a solid group. The gates are still the same.

If you want a game that skill-checks you, play League, or Street Fighter, or something mechanically demanding. If you want a problem solving challenge, find new ways to beat current content, or play a different game.
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By LightningHelix 2025-12-10 14:39:50
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Ganache said: »
All you are saying is that all in-game problems are solvable, and that all of the current in-game problems have been solved (by other people, and then you use their strategies, no doubt).
I still want to know how SE "expects" Bumba V25 to be done. There's not a strategy (that I've heard of) that doesn't require some good luck with the specific auras, which feels like the kind of thing that should be able to be eliminated.

Maybe not, and their testers really did Kaustra it to death if they killed it at all? But maybe.
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By Asura.Lunafreya 2025-12-10 14:43:20
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K123 said: »
For real though, I'm not super elitists pos but there (other than Ody V25 that you only have to beat once) no real challenging content in the game that sets hardworking players out from average Joe. No, primes do not. A prime is locked behind 6 months of psyches, 6 months is 180 days so to make 7,500,000 galli you technically only need to make 42k a day. Animon is not hard.

This logic is kind of flawed? Yes you only need 42k a day but that assumes you go 7 days a week for an entire 6 months in a row not missing a single day. Feasible? Sure. Likley? Idk. If you’re going 7 days a week and getting 40+ every time it means you are either in a static or the most successful shout pugger in history…or 6 boxing it. 2 out of 3 of those lends itself to just doing 8 boss, and probably 9 anyway.

I’d much rather 9 boss 4-5 days a week and miss a week here and there because everyone’s RL insanity takes precedence, and not have a single worry about muffin progress. This doesn’t speak to difficulty, it’s more about time spent:reward ratio.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-12-10 14:53:01
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Sylph.Takutu said: »
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Hmmm. While the descriptor matches (Arrogance for EV set), the names of the armor type are... weird.

Arrogance Masque, Jacket, Wristbands, Trousers, and Shoes.

And these uncurse into a Crown, Platemail, Gauntlets, Brais, and Sabatons?

Not that I think you're wrong, mind you. I don't see any other way this could work. But.. wtf SE? That ***makes no sense.

I went purely off the item descriptions. Example:
Apathy Cuirass
A plated metal cuirass that is
completely devoid of hope. This item
cannot currently be equipped.

I took that description to mean it was for the Hope set.

Arrogance Jacket
A jacket that is completely devoid
of trust. This item cannot currently
be equipped.

I took that description to mean it was for the Trust set.

All pieces of the same cursed set have the same wording around Hope/Trust/Justice, etc. It's very possible the descriptions don't match the sets they uncurse, but that was the logic I used.
Ahhh. I see. I hadn't looked at the full item descriptions for the cursed items yet. I think your conclusions are accurate. It's just.. bizarre how SE named the items. Jacket into platemail, etc.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-12-10 17:00:48
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Maybe I'm mistaken, I didn't read all the messages as I've been on vacation and quite preoccupied.

Were the enspell discussions just about the base enspell increase? I think you forgot to include the 200% from composure.

Also, some of the time you'll be using crocea (Ongo v25, or any time you aren't doing 0 dmg strats), so there's another 500%.

Anyway, it's not really 40ish damage a swing...
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By K123 2025-12-10 17:16:15
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Asura.Lunafreya said: »
K123 said: »
For real though, I'm not super elitists pos but there (other than Ody V25 that you only have to beat once) no real challenging content in the game that sets hardworking players out from average Joe. No, primes do not. A prime is locked behind 6 months of psyches, 6 months is 180 days so to make 7,500,000 galli you technically only need to make 42k a day. Animon is not hard.

This logic is kind of flawed? Yes you only need 42k a day but that assumes you go 7 days a week for an entire 6 months in a row not missing a single day. Feasible? Sure. Likley? Idk. If you’re going 7 days a week and getting 40+ every time it means you are either in a static or the most successful shout pugger in history…or 6 boxing it. 2 out of 3 of those lends itself to just doing 8 boss, and probably 9 anyway.

I’d much rather 9 boss 4-5 days a week and miss a week here and there because everyone’s RL insanity takes precedence, and not have a single worry about muffin progress. This doesn’t speak to difficulty, it’s more about time spent:reward ratio.
You're missing the point, the point is it is more about committment of time than it is a pure challenge (yes, i know, true of all FFXI, but it is to the extent which it is about time commitment vs skill and like I explain, you have six month time REGARDLESS of if you do 90k a run).

I disagree with the guy above. I never said getting a relic was hard, that's a bizarre statement.

Kings with low numbers or in a less well geared linkshell they were a challenge. Salvage was challenging content with 6-7 people. Omen was challenging for 6 for a while, now still fun challenging with 2-3 chars. Einherjar was great and ZNM were great (again, maybe felt more challenging in less elite groups, idk).

Ultima and Omega with just a few people (NIN tanking) was *** great.

Abyssea required a handful of people to do bosses, until they made it easy to MNK+WHM everything, which I regret.

Limbus content is dog ***from the get go and there's no way to do Animon HQ with less humans than 6 (or maybe 5 if just doing it slow?) so they are not really comparable IMO.
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