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OK, help me understand this line of logic then.




IDK...It looks like you're saying the player counts are skewed because of this thing...that 1% of players are doing.

IMO, it's less than 1%. I'm sure there are some people who are logging in 16 mules every day, and doing AMAN trove on 16 mules, and doing Ambu on 16 mules every month...but it's not even remotely close to the normal experience.

Since it's such an outlier situation, it feels really strange, to me, to point to it as a reason why the player count would be high. It's like a rounding error in the grand scheme of things.

If they were using the database on this site to *** player counts, that information requires AH transactions to count players. I highly doubt people are dumping stuff on the AH from all 15 mules.

Kinda depends on your server, on cerb there's 2.8k(ish) active characters, if 10 people with 15 alts reactivates them all then it jumps to 3k and that's a noticeable difference, and 10 people doing it is not a difficult thing to happen.

SE's done an amazing job managing FFXI this year, in my opinion. Compared to prior years, they've addressed bugs quickly and offered compensation. They've introduced several new pieces of content. They're working on the back end to create forward maintainability. I am one of the first to criticize them most of the time, but they've done great and I think growing player numbers reflect that.

However, the elephant in the room: FFXI can be a coping mechanism and holidays are one of the most stressful times of the year for a lot of people. Going by sales numbers, a spike in activity happens this time every year.

SE has kind of ignored crafting gear ever since the introduced the shields. It would be nice to see more crafting gear. Maybe another piece or two of HQ+ gear.

Crafting gear has an immediate effect on world economy, I wouldn't expect any gear that can change the amount of craftables being made any time soon. Maybe some convenience stuff (some cooking items NEED to stack to 99 dammit)

They will do that as soon as they let gear/accessories that are need for crafting other stuff stack to 12, lol.

Speculation going around JP players is that there might be a full 22 sets as perhaps AF+5, since Limbus is only “60% complete.” Picture is Gemini-made but just something to consider.

Ark Angels are Zilart anyway, not CoP.
It makes more sense that they are apologizing for making +4 literal garbage by making +5 into a transcendent reskin version.

Hopefully they're worth making.

Surprised it's AF on both images, not Relic on either if it's not a reskin Ark Angel set though.

INB4 we have to kill a NM with name matching the gear for a temp. key item in order to make a single piece of that gear.

For 1, that's not AF. Yall must not know what WAR AF looks like

2, they're not going to waste a reskin on an upgrade, gear doesn't alter it's appearance when +1 +2 +5 etc

I wouldn't be surprised if these were just new login point reward lockstyle pieces.

Ark Angel Hume is a reskin WAR AF.

Instead, how about this. You just be wrong.

It doesn't matter when I'm right, no one ever admits it so you just get your hopes up thinking they're going to make 22 rainbow +5 sets. Not 44, just AF.

The only connection I have to the JP player base are the JP players I keep in touch with for master trial progression purposes, so my perspective is a bit skewed. But, many JP players I've seen speculating this don't recognize that the armor is closer to a reskin of the AA sets.

I'm not saying this won't be +5, but I'm not sure if they would go through the trouble of making all the new reskins for the AF gear when they wouldn't have to. From a budgeting perspective, it would make sense to leave the AF+5 unchanged and if they were to make new sets (like the AA cosmetics and these reskins), make them new armor sets.

For those really wishing for a ton of new gear this update, I think 10 new sets (Murky and Alabaster variants for the AA sets) is more realistic.

10 new sets is still a pretty high bar. Odyssey only had 57. Limbus v2 only had 4. It's more likely than 22, and they do have the models to pull it off easily. But, I wouldn't be that surprised to see just the two sets for omegav5 and ultimav5. I also wouldn't be surprised if the white AA sets were cosmetics and omega/ultima just drop 1-2 more rerelease sets of homam/nashira each.

Thanks for the context! I completely agree by the way, I don't expect any more than 5 sets at the most, but 2 or 4 sets feel more likely.

But I've encountered several people hyping themselves up for AF/Rel+5 coming with reskins this update, and I really don't think that's happening.

Why would SE give a generic reskin to AF for 119+5 when they haven't done any reskinning on those armor pieces through 6 different upgrades (AF, AF+1, 109, 119, 119+2, 119+3, 119+4, obviously run and geo only have 4 upgrades). If they're gonna reskin the AF, it better be for good reasons:
Slap a glowing orb on each piece a-la pulse panolpia
Give it a HQ reskin

Literally anything other than paint every *** piece with a gyve paintbrush and make all 22 jobs in AF look the same.

Absolute dumbest idea.


When I saw the MR and HM, I too thought AA armor reskin.

Probably a pointless lore detail, but the AAs were created by the Zilart. It wouldn't be thematically or canonically incorrect (if they make usable AA gear) to have it come from some research apparatus in Sea.

First thing that comes to mind is that they want more models to use on mobs so they can have HQ variants of the limbus NMs. VNM shadows for HQ NM pops might've been too subtle, give the HQ versions prismatic gear or whatever, make em shiny.

That said, I don't think it's likely. I think if they had more than just 2 sets they would've shown them - so I'm psyching myself up for upgraded homam/nashira... but that just begs the question, why not give THOSE sets the primastic treatment?

Maybe they gave an intern the task of recoloring the texture maps for a bunch of popular gear sets or whatever. "Apply this photoshop filter to each of these textures." Maybe they had an AI do it. We'll find out soon enough.

I’m just sharing what’s going around for funsies. Oh and just to point out since I didn’t see it mentioned here earlier, they did reskin Omega/Ultima.

Higher res:

If you're going to speculate crystal armor, then the only reasonable NM that should be dropping that set (or fragments to upgrade to crystal armor) should be Provenance Watcher.

What are these images of omega and ultima? shared by SE?

Where else would they come from

I think reskinning the AF would be a terrible idea.

What if you:
Like the look of the original JSE
and
Want the stats of the +5 JSE?

Umm...whoopsie? I guess now you need to have twice as much JSE in your inventory, so you can lockstyle the old stuff over the new ones?

I'm not saying SE aren't dumb enough to do it, sure maybe they will, but it would be an extremely bad idea.

I also think people are way too optimistic (and have been all along) about JSE+5. The JSE+4 is already strong enough as-is, and doesn't need any kind of bump in stats. We got a shitton of BiS pieces with nice boosts to eva, meva, and relevant base stats all over the place, and everyone's reaction was like "that's it? Where's my +5?"

Not saying SE won't cave in to the pressure and make +5 but again...I think it would be a huge mistake.

Honestly, I'd appreciate an ilevel version of the Shedir Seraweels. They're so useful, but so very fragile.

*** nano banana or photoshop

Makes me realise I barely remember doing Ultima, if he was in the room he is shown in there even though I must have done it a bunch of times. I remember doing Omega more. I used to do Limbus 1-2am though because being EU sucks.

wat????

Can't see the image, imgur blocked in UK

Noone posts the update text and acts surprised when people don't know wtf is going on. So here:

I want it to be AF and Relic +5 with slot-based drops from Omega (AF) and Ultima (Relic). Maybe the same amount of points again along with it but no more.

its literally on the main page