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 Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-10-08 12:36:39
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K123 said: »
Why would Maletaru elitist use less than the optimal set up?

It seems like you've kind of moved the goalpost from:
"Item that is game changing makes a strategy possible"
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"This item is really good and optimal strategy uses it"

if a melee strategy can be done with a slightly different comp without the item, does it matter that it's not the ideal strategy? the ideal strategy will always have accompanying ideal gearsets
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By K123 2024-10-08 14:54:49
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
K123 said: »
Why would Maletaru elitist use less than the optimal set up?

It seems like you've kind of moved the goalpost from:
"Item that is game changing makes a strategy possible"
to
"This item is really good and optimal strategy uses it"

if a melee strategy can be done with a slightly different comp without the item, does it matter that it's not the ideal strategy? the ideal strategy will always have accompanying ideal gearsets
Nah, I'm just getting Maletaru to disclose his set ups and strats.

Best way to bait someone like Maletaru into giving you something useful is to say something they disagree with, or they won't say anything constructive.

Definitely haven't moved the goalposts with that post.

Top 5 game changing items:
Idris
Shining One
Naegling
Loxotic Mace +1
Aegis
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 Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-10-08 15:01:24
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K123 said: »
Nah, I'm just getting Maletaru to disclose his set ups and strats.

Best way to bait someone like Maletaru into giving you something useful is to say something they disagree with, or they won't say anything constructive.

If you want to be more like me, you could just ask. My DMs are open.

Always happy to share strategies, I've got writeups for everything and plenty of experience on most jobs in most fights. I also work very closely with my friends on fine-tuning their jobs even if I'm not playing them. We have a very collaborative group and I'm happy to share that with you, all ya gotta do is ask.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-10-08 15:14:13
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I butt heads with Maletaru a lot here, but he's never been a "git gud scrub, figure your own ***out" kinda guy.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-10-08 16:25:21
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Yeah Male is definitely straight forward and shares. Asking sounds a lot quicker than trolling him unless you're just looking for a fight for the entertainment of it. His only real personal bias is towards BRD and honestly it's much better than most because at least it's backed up by the game blatantly supporting it.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-10-09 22:39:28
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Has it really been a whole year since the last SP dial keys campaign?

When's the last time they did that. 11/23?
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By Valefor.Philemon 2024-10-10 00:35:47
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So the RNG affected earring augment rolls too? Bleh, SE, bleh.
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By Bosworth 2024-10-10 01:03:45
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How is there 137 file update when they aren't doing ***for updates anymore
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By Draylo 2024-10-10 01:06:51
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Preparing for the expansion
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By Ultimaetus 2024-10-10 01:08:01
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You're telling me behemoths suit was skimping on meat?
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-10-10 01:37:34
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Hole on guys, can we just all take a moment and stop napping on the most revolutionary game-changing upgrade ever to be casually hidden in a version update?

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New items have been added to Button Settings.

Shutdown / Target Nearby NPC / Jump (/jump) / Map (/map)

Dedicated jump button. FFXI will never be the same. Imagine the freedom of jumping in place with no horizontal momentum, at the convenience of a button press! Whole new horizons of standing in place are opened up! Will the tarutaru at long last claim dominion over the cookie jar on a high shelf, once the bane of their collective existence?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-10-10 01:38:48
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Someone must've forgotten how to count. 23:30 was 8 minutes ago

Edit;
Maint extended by an hour
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All Worlds Maintenance Extended (Oct. 9, 10)

The ongoing All Worlds maintenance is scheduled to end later than anticipated, on Oct. 10, 2024 0:30 (PDT) / 7:30 (GMT) / 8:30 (BST).

Back to nap
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By Kadokawa 2024-10-10 02:05:34
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Valefor.Philemon said: »
So the RNG affected earring augment rolls too? Bleh, SE, bleh.

So is it easier to get +2 earring now?
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By Asura.Thunderjet 2024-10-10 02:06:46
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isn't the game supposed to be up 30 mins ago, the day i did not go to work i get fkd with a mainteinance
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By Asura.Sechs 2024-10-10 02:08:16
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Valefor.Philemon said: »
So the RNG affected earring augment rolls too? Bleh, SE, bleh.
Well I see two chances here.

It could be true and it was very slight, we won't notice a difference.

Or it was quite noticeable but they didn't want to admit it so they wrote "slight".


Either way we'll find out soon in the next days I guess.
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By Kadokawa 2024-10-10 02:11:16
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Valefor.Philemon said: »
So the RNG affected earring augment rolls too? Bleh, SE, bleh.
Well I see two chances here.

It could be true and it was very slight, we won't notice a difference.

Or it was quite noticeable but they didn't want to admit it so they wrote "slight".


Either way we'll find out soon in the next days I guess.

So people complaining does work in official forum, I wish you guys complain their more, so we get few changes now and then.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-10-10 02:21:18
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Kadokawa said: »
So people complaining does work in official forum, I wish you guys complain their more, so we get few changes now and then.

Oh, you beautiful sweet summer child. Never lose that innocence.

People do nothing but complain over there. Usually it has all the impact of farting into a hurricane. This one only got addressed either because the complaint came with data analysis to back it up, or possibly because someone on the Japanese side of the forum also said something.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-10-10 02:46:38
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There's complaining, and there's complaining properly
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By Pantafernando 2024-10-10 04:07:01
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And there is complaining properly in japanese.
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By Bahamut.Academic 2024-10-10 05:15:17
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I know there is this conspiracy that they only listen to japanese players but we in the west love to complain but not in a constructive way.

"xyz doesn't work. Fix it nao!"
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By Kaffy 2024-10-10 05:46:12
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Haha I love that you can assign a button to /jump now.
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By Pantafernando 2024-10-10 05:48:53
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I thought funny the timing when you reread the "useless moves" thread, and one of the first answers was about how useless is the emote /jump, then SE double-up and said:

"Useless my ***, have a shortcut of it so you can be useless faster!"
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By Dodik 2024-10-10 06:02:04
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I didn't think the gamepad config application could get any more needlessly complicated than it was.

Leave it to SE to prove me wrong. There is now a configurable toggle button that, when pressed, gives you a whole set of new buttons to configure to do different things.

"But what would anyone use this for 22 years after learning how to use controller in XI?"

"Frakking nothing, that's what. Now shut up and configure your toggle button."
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By Ovalidal 2024-10-10 06:17:10
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Dodik said: »
I didn't think the gamepad config application could get any more needlessly complicated than it was.

Leave it to SE to prove me wrong. There is now a configurable toggle button that, when pressed, gives you a whole set of new buttons to configure to do different things.

"But what would anyone use this for 22 years after learning how to use controller in XI?"

"Frakking nothing, that's what. Now shut up and configure your toggle button."

Some Japanese players were able to clear both of the unbeaten master trials thanks to their new ability to hot swap to their jump macro.
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By Taint 2024-10-10 06:49:56
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I just popped 63 old cases. 2 +1s. Small sample not looking great for an increased rate.

Spread was also skewed towards the first 6 jobs lol.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-10-10 07:37:58
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Ovalidal said: »
Dodik said: »
I didn't think the gamepad config application could get any more needlessly complicated than it was.

Leave it to SE to prove me wrong. There is now a configurable toggle button that, when pressed, gives you a whole set of new buttons to configure to do different things.

"But what would anyone use this for 22 years after learning how to use controller in XI?"

"Frakking nothing, that's what. Now shut up and configure your toggle button."

Some Japanese players were able to clear both of the unbeaten master trials thanks to their new ability to hot swap to their jump macro.

JP button wins again!

I've used a controller since ps2 release and these updates just mess with my binds on my external mapping programs if I accidentally press the gamepad button. I don't think they are going to ever get to the point where I would replace what I'm using with what they are offering but I'm happy if other people are getting value out of it.

Taint said: »
I just popped 63 old cases. 2 +1s. Small sample not looking great for an increased rate.

Spread was also skewed towards the first 6 jobs lol.

I can do the same, I have 65. I should have saved the +1 cases I got last night too but 20/20.


EDIT: Different distribution for me, but 1 out of 65 cases is a new low for +1s for me. There's the nerf we were asking for. FFXI team does not disappoint or change course.
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By Dodik 2024-10-10 07:41:52
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Think will have to resort to external mapping programs too. What do you use Iocus?

What I want is basically '/target <stnpc>' on a controller button. Their implementation is close, but tends to target your trusts and with no subtarget still leaves you clicking left and right through everything to find the mob.

Targeting your own trusts cannot be turned off as opposed to other's trusts, which is annoying.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-10-10 07:44:44
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Taint said: »
I just popped 63 old cases. 2 +1s. Small sample not looking great for an increased rate.

Spread was also skewed towards the first 6 jobs lol.

The change was one percent. It's statistically meaningless.

(*)Points for hoping they accidentally made it 100% though and popping them before they could fix it.
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By Taint 2024-10-10 08:06:33
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Taint said: »
I just popped 63 old cases. 2 +1s. Small sample not looking great for an increased rate.

Spread was also skewed towards the first 6 jobs lol.

The change was one percent. It's statistically meaningless.

(*)Points for hoping they accidentally made it 100% though and popping them before they could fix it.

100% had that thought. I had a stash of +1 cases ready to roll if the upgrade rate was super high lol.
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