Dev Tracker - Discussion

It's at the bottom of the update notes in the "Item-Related" table.

"Make certain items obtained from Sortie sellable"

Which in itself is already a 100% confirmation that it's just gonna be gil for the stones and not a small amount of gally.

15 years later, they've fixed this.

Was always infuriating targeting between the ???, box, and NM.

Anybody checked how much do Starstones and Sapphires sell for?
5k? 10k?

Hmm if I were the devs I would make a big announcement that starstones/sapphires are npc'able, then after most of the community has disposed of their existing excess stock of these items after a few months, I'd make them tradable for gallimaufry and remove the EX tag. That would be interesting

sapphires 962gil, starstones 1540gil. big sad

edit - checked ruspix just in case, nothing new there. enjoy your extra inventory y'all

In hindsight there's so many things they could've done with stones.

Trade 5 or even 10 of them to upgrade a +1>+2 or +2>+3 Empy as an alternate route to Galli one.

Trade a specific number of them and an earring to reroll its augments.

Trade one of them and 10 earrings of any type but same quality to pick an earring of your choice of the same quality.

Trade one of them and 10 earrings of the same type to upgrade that earring to a higher level of quality (NQ>+1 and +1>+2).


Just throwing out very simple ideas that could need some balancing in its variables/numbers, but would still offer solid control to players, but moderate enough that it doesn't entirely kill the grind, it actually offers a much better carrot on a stick.
But noooo, they had to make them sellable for what surely is gonna be absymal numbers.
And despite that, any number is bad really. We don't need any more Gil generating things in this game that already suffers from inflation so bad mostly because of that.
They seemed to have understood that simple concept when they made Sparks conversion weekly, but think again.

I dunno, it's all moot talk given what happened, but it seems to me this would've been a perfectly achievable goal even with their skeleton crew, so the fact that they didn't even bother is terribly irksome to me.

Can confirm. Now buying 1/10,000th of a kclub with a satchel full of sapphires

I keep getting 4001 and 4002 like 10 seconds after logging in.

Not even the expected 5k lol. Terribad.

Worth holding them for the past year, right fellas.

But thats because you have bad fame

Part of me wants to hold them just in case still. Sad

I got rid of all my pulse weapons a couple months before Ambuscade Weapons came out. I have trust issues

We're still holding onto a few pulse bodies too, we won't be hoodwinked twice.

Haha! Who knows but perhaps we need pulse bodies for ambu +3 gear.

It's too obvious, so it won't happen. I still haven't tossed my Crystal Petrifacts on mule either. Player hoarding will never stop

Just wait, Sortie clomper goodness coming in 2025, trade 99 of each stone to get access to +2 boxes for 5000000 potpourri. please look forward to it

that would involve some new content though? The last one was for Delve.

Throw in a Vagary goodness and let me get Tartarus for all my chars. 24 dark matter and 25k pots for a Tartarus? Ill sign for that in blood, my own blood.

This is clever. SE will do it for 10M potpourri.

No no no no. It will be "trade 5 stacks of 99 of each stone" to get access to a +1 box (for 10M potpourri).

From the official Facebook:

Based on them showing MORALE in the same SS as 3 automaton maneuvers, I assume this will be about increasing the morale of pups by increasing the base duration of maneuvers to more than 1 minute. /joke

I'm not a fan of beseiged particularly, but at least they are putting some effort into it and not just changing stats to match ilvl 119. Who knows, could turn out to be fun. A little UI help could go a long way in getting players to protect the generals and defeat certain NMs.

Honest question: does keeping the generals alive in vanilla Besieged actually do anything? I was under the impression they were just battle leaders, but at this point in the game's life, they don't serve any practical purpose. I could be wrong. I know they can be captured, but what does that actually result in penalty-wise, besides them not being available the next Besieged? Genuinely curious

They should tie bonuses/penalties to the Generals and their survival. If it's just a health bar indicator with no benefit if they live or die, people will still just steamroll the monsters to finish the event. Make it to where the generals all enhance something unique. They all have specific jobs, and their trusts already exist, so we have an idea of how their AI behaves. Maybe Gadalar enhances MAB the more health he has. Or they grant their unique WS or a buff to players who are within a certain radius of them, to encourage fighting side-by-side with the generals (instead of everyone just storming the entrance). Just a few examples.

If they die(captured), you lose the candy and can no longer use the portal to staging points.

Hinders salvage, nyzul, meripo etc. You can still walk to the cave and enter so it's really just an annoyance.

loses the sanction bonuses too, which dont really matter post 2010. But they should update sanction to give the same exp bonus to exemplar points. So there's a thing to care about.

Yeah according to wiki the enemy focuses on the Hall of Binding to take the candy once the generals are down.

I like those ideas though, there is definitely a lot they could do.

So losing all generals makes them go after the candy, or if any general dies they take the candy automatically? I feel like I've seen one or two of them die but we still won the Besieged.

All 5 die, then the seal breaks, then if a mob crosses the seal, they steal it

Any individual general means nothing, as long as one is alive the seal stays.

Candy bonuses are yes/no, there's no rewards tied to specific generals.

For now.

...besides, who says they have to be bonuses?

-5% Exp/CP/EP in ToAU zones per General captured, Locus mobs aggro if the candy is taken, new hordes of Apex Beastmen defending captives.

Gotta motivate players to take new Beseiged srsly.