Dev Tracker - Discussion

I've really been thinking a lot lately about all the wasted real estate that is Sortie, and possible simple fixes or at least adjustments-

how great would a 2 KI system be where one is the current Plate, but then we get a new KI (name it whatever, I like Muckvix's Plate) that allows entry, but zero access to Boss Rooms. There's a *** of regular mobs in there that the non-botter crowd would embrace as a 1hour EP camp daily that also tosses you a marginal bit of extra muffins and some shots at Old Cases/+1.

No, it wouldn't be some massive break in game mechanics, or be better EP than taking a true party to a Locus camp...but it would come with that extra benefit of Muffins on the Side as well as capping the time investment. And it would take all that space we just Bolter's through and give it a reason to exist beyond annoyance.

i'm sure there are groups that need tako to do 9 boss runs, but it is far from required. good coordination and time management is challenging even if the running itself is boring. take that away and you've removed a huge chunk of difficulty from the event. i'm not defending sortie as great ffxi content, but trivializing the event with tako isn't going to get you a prime any faster, you still are on rails for 6 months with psyches.

also it's by their own design that legitimate warps reset the 4006 timer, otherwise it would be impossible to maintain that speed for an hour without being disconnected, shame on you SE for not anticipating this.

Sortie would have been way more fun as an Alliance content, than what it is right now. I feel like they could have used the gimmick of "the more people, the more it scales in difficulty". They could have made it something like Legion too, I don't know. I just know that current Sortie burnt me out and I have not played at all since January. :/

The main reason I decided not to bother with primes was because of how boring sortie was let alone the blue balling they did with the 100k cap. Event equivalent of unseasoned chicken.

SE lost a lot of respect from me with this content and honestly, I don't trust their brand. Look at how fast rebirth felloff... I don't think they can create any new classics anymore.

The fact you were already farming it for months with an artificial cap before Primes were even released lol. On top of armor and Primes both needing galli to upgrade was all done on purpose I believe.

Its an offline single player game though. People either plat it and move on to the next game or they give up trying to plat because theyre not good enough and move on to the next game. None of the trophies are gated behind any absurd grinds. Theyre gated behind "git gud" trials.

That no one is talking about

Read my edit, I wasnt expecting such a quick response.

As I said before:

Im laying down in bed smoking after a 4 hour drive reading threads since I've been busy the last 3 days lol - I agree Papi but it did feel really fast that it got out the video game news loop.

Did it fall out of the news loop or did all the Stellar Blade discourse take over the gaming chatter and everyones talking about Eve's...assets, for good and bad?

Haha dat *** yo...

I mean, COR is hard required for the event. Which is already bad design, as COR is already one the most common jobs in event groups.

I would also argue if that Tako trivializes Sortie, then you are implying that travel is what makes Sortie hard... That's just feels so bad.

Of the time spent in sortie, over 50% will be spent in your idle set running around. Yes, every event requires running around, but not to that extent.

Someone just flash the Maat shirt that says he's not forcing you and be done with the Sortie talk. You either want the rewards enough to do it or you don't. That people don't is as telling as it needs to be since it's the current end game.

This is partially what made me finally hang up XI.

This was another part. That artifical cap imposed to prevent people getting a headstart was insulting.

I still like the community here and have a plethora of fond memories of my time in XI, it's why I periodically check in like I have now. Honestly though, these sentiments are what make the way SE treats their remaining passionate players sting

This probably isn't the place to ask this but:

1) Are you having a hard time/withdrawals since you quit Ruau? I imagine you, of all people, had a hard decision to make.

2) Everyone else who quit, was it a hard decision?

(Vyre if this is derailing I'll make a thread <3)
So I won't!

There is no "quitting".

The is only "taking a break".

You derailed it more with that Stellar Blade video, you filthy frog.

Maint tomorrow, good thing they *** up on a month were they were dumb enough to miss-align update and login so they'll actually fix the slips

No way, they're adding the expansion. You know, the totally real one

I've been out of the loop, how did Rebirth fall-off? Context?

Are people just that mad that they reduced Tifa's boob size?...

I wouldn't be surprised if they fail to roll out a fix until next month's version update.

I mean.... I wouldn't be surprised either. But. Is that bar THAT low that they can't fix a dat file when a maint is already planned.

Double or nothing on breaking it more.

This is unforgivable...

As an apology, I present this

I don't even feel that would've been necessary, honestly.

First of all bringing more than 6 surely makes the early part of farming KIs to do the 4 upstairs bosses faster/easier.
After that the group would have to stick together because you need to be in the same boss room to receive the KI and you can only enter a single boss room at the same time.
So... no big difference here.

Basement bosses would get easier if the HP doesn't scale or it's a slow scaling.



So to sum things up:
In the best case scenario all this would do is making the best possible result (~80k Galli per run) accessible to more people.
It wouldn't change the amount of constant, daily dedication required to complete a Prime.
It would surely make it feel less "hardcore" and more relaxed. You could afford to miss runs with a lighter heart knowing that your friends would still be able to run without you, instead of that stressful feeling that your group depends on your presence to run.
Also for less hardcore players (who can't currently manage to get 80k/run or even 50k/run) it would mean a slight bump in prime completition speed.

I think overall it would be a good change for everyone except elitists:
Casuals => more points than they currently can get
Serious => slightly more points, less stress
Hardcore => more relaxing, less stress
SE => hardly a difference for their plans of keeping players engaged for X months, nothing changes for them (almost). If anything more people who are currently ignoring Sortie would start bothering with it.
Elitists => more people will get primes as fast as they can. It's the only category that wouldn't benefit from this change.


Is this gonna happen? Of course it won't.
And this time it sounds even more masochistic than ever, even for SE themselves.

Overall it would result in people taking 12 mules to make their primes.

Except they've proven they don't understand how to implement that gimmick. Scaling content currently favors taking less people to make it easier. HELMs, omen objectives, ect.