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 Lakshmi.Avereith
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2022-03-18 11:37:14
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That sounds like a hell of a lot of effort for some Gil I don't need

People gotta find another infinite quest turn in or something goofy. Crafting and npc-img things is just not cool or clever enough for me.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-18 11:58:04
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It's just a bunch of automation. you buy 80 stacks of A 80 stacks of B 80 Stacks of C and you automate moving from sack to inventory and you add a sellnpc line every hour and you come back in 8 hours to reup with 30m new gil

If you took 18 accounts with a bot per water cluster camp, it takes maybe 3 days to fill the entire 70k clusters then you're off to the races.
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By Lakshmi.Cesil 2022-03-18 12:15:02
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Ask the jp that posted about it and/or find them doing it. (he said 30 on asura, but assume it's not just happening on asura for hundreds)

His account got suspended from the OF now.... ***. lul.

Said they go to upper jeuno and the alc guild. So if you stand there and see 2-3 dozen anons, start askin questions.

(also yeah, for 20 years I had no idea crystal drops were based solely on killing party, I thought if you had 6 "signet" in an 18 alliance it would still drop the max)

I'd have to dig for it, but I do have a screenshot of a GM telling me that the more people in your PT, the more stuff drops. I remember posting it on killing ifrit back in the day, oh the memories :D

But yeah in the SS, the GM said that the more people in your PT, the more drops because each person in the PT brings a chance for a drop, I'll see if I can find the screenshot!
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-03-18 14:07:46
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That's specifically true for specific kinds of drops, like crystals and seals (for example, if solo you'll never see more than 1 seal from 1 mob, but you can get multiple if in a party). It doesn't apply to normal drops.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2022-03-18 14:54:38
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If I recall, seal drops are normally based on the number of parties in an alliance PLUS a time wait. When SMN burning was a thing, we’d only see a max of 1 drop per party, every 5 minutes. Even if we had everyone lotting/passing them, we would only ever get 1-3, out of 150-200 mobs
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-03-18 15:30:28
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
If I recall, seal drops are normally based on the number of parties in an alliance PLUS a time wait. When SMN burning was a thing, we’d only see a max of 1 drop per party, every 5 minutes. Even if we had everyone lotting/passing them, we would only ever get 1-3, out of 150-200 mobs

this is correct, each player in the party that dealt killing blow gets flagged as 'cannot obtain seal' for 5 minutes after a seal drops.. but if you're in an alliance, it won't stretch to alliance members so other parties can each see a seal every 5 minutes

zoning also resets it

when that special campaign is up, it seperates so each player has a seperate timer and you can see multiple at once
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By Shichishito 2022-03-18 16:37:11
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so that's why they didn't make a proper inventory rework. guess too quick zoning would throw off barance.
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By Sylph.Ticktick 2022-03-18 18:01:34
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Expect an Emaint lol. I guess there are hundreds of bots doing eyedrops.

330g + water crystal synthesized into ~500g x2 x4 x6 or x8 Infinite money glitch.

(it was brought up before, but now a JP reported it so it'll actually get fixed)

curious how they manage to get enough crystals for hundreds of characters to do that, it's not like the AH is bottomless and there are very finite numbers of elemental spawns

just collect them from their CP bots?
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By Shichishito 2022-03-22 05:03:41
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mars orbs 2$/pop, venus orbs 4$/pop.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2022-03-22 05:07:18
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This just in, AMAN Trove will have the mimic eat you before you even enter. It will then rampage and eat everything in Vana'Diel until we cough up enough money for a GM to get off their lazy backsides and do something.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 05:07:25
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Nooooooooooo revamp to AMAN trooooove.
On one hand this is good, it means more potential drops.

On the other hand it's bad because it means it's gonna be even harder to obtain Ashera Harness for me Q_Q
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2022-03-22 05:16:00
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Wonder if its about time they updated the loot pool? All the 'recent' HTMBs are missing from it from Odin/Alex/Lilith/Cait/Shinryu.

Would also be nice of them to cleanse some of the older junk thats still available. Nothing worse than getting Vexed Gages from a Loud Thud >.>

Or perhaps even some incentive to actually fight the mimic would be good.

Guarantee a gil drop like Orpheus Sash or Epam ring. That would do it, lol.
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By Seun 2022-03-22 05:53:52
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Asura.Sechs said: »
On the other hand it's bad because it means it's gonna be even harder to obtain Ashera Harness for me Q_Q

You can send Omen bodies in the delivery box. Winning rank 2 bonanza on a mule is still everyone's best chance at getting one.


As for trove adjustments, there's far too much *** in the higher tier loot pools. 'Noise' should be escha weapons/armor and mats/sacks. 'Thud' should be pulse weapons, omen boss/midboss armor/weapons and HQ mats/+2 sacks. 'Loud thud' should be omen bodies and OU drops.


Rank 1 bonanza weapons added to loud thud? Time to update the bonanza for the 20th anyway.
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By Shichishito 2022-03-22 06:05:44
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if they add anything significant to the loot pool or restructure it i'd be surprised if they don't also add a new entry item and vouchers to trade for.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 06:09:12
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Seun said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
On the other hand it's bad because it means it's gonna be even harder to obtain Ashera Harness for me Q_Q

You can send Omen bodies in the delivery box. Winning rank 2 bonanza on a mule is still everyone's best chance at getting one.
I know man, but despite participating in every single Bonanza since the beginning I never won anything.
Actually that's a lie, I won a rank3 once, and a rank4 twice (back when there were still 5 ranks).
Nothing since when they changed the Bonanza to a 3 ranks system.


Overall I'm very happy for everyone that they're updating the AMAN Trove. Long due!
I'm just concerned about myself at the chance of seeing the odds of me getting an Ashera Harness get even thinner.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-03-22 06:20:21
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Asura.Sechs said: »
On the other hand it's bad because it means it's gonna be even harder to obtain Ashera Harness for me Q_Q
I mean, adding more drops doesn't necessarily mean old desired drops will become less common.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 06:44:06
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Asura.Geriond said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
On the other hand it's bad because it means it's gonna be even harder to obtain Ashera Harness for me Q_Q
I mean, adding more drops doesn't necessarily mean old desired drops will become less common.
Not necessarily indeed.
But I was imagining a scenario where you have 20 possible drops going to a scenario where you have 40, in this case it would.

But yeah, hopefully while adding some new rewards they will remove some of the old, now undesired rewards.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-22 07:01:16
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Asura.Geriond said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
On the other hand it's bad because it means it's gonna be even harder to obtain Ashera Harness for me Q_Q
I mean, adding more drops doesn't necessarily mean old desired drops will become less common.

That's literally what it means lol. Pool dilution means exactly that.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-03-22 07:10:26
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Geriond said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
On the other hand it's bad because it means it's gonna be even harder to obtain Ashera Harness for me Q_Q
I mean, adding more drops doesn't necessarily mean old desired drops will become less common.

That's literally what it means lol. Pool dilution means exactly that.
Only if they adjust old drop rates evenly while preserving the same number of total drops. If they reduce/remove the chances of some unwanted gear (like Zitah armor) to compensate or have new gear be it's own slot, drop rates for gear like Ashera could be unaffected.
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By Shichishito 2022-03-22 07:15:34
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i also figured it doesn't necessarily have to mean that, if they adjust drop rates for rare stuff in correlation to the lootpool increase you should see them just as frequently as befor, shouldn't you?

then again i don't see them bothering with adjusting drop rates of old equipment.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-22 07:48:59
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While they SHOULD remove all that ***from the trove, they're absolutely not going to. (and special dial)
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By Rips 2022-03-22 08:37:47
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The best chance of getting an Ashera Harness is PMing me.

Also, final-***-ly.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 08:42:28
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/tell Rips hey! Gimme an Ashera! ktnxbai
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By Rips 2022-03-22 08:48:08
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Asura.Sechs said: »
/tell Rips hey! Gimme an Ashera! ktnxbai

IIRC you did message me once but it was too late lol
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-22 08:50:59
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I've always wanted to ask but never get around to it. The maat fight for 50 characters. Absolute misery.

I assume you actually did the rank missions to unlock trust for maat, but if not, did you skill them up and solo it (warrior maybe?) or do you clipper on whm and just run away for 5 minutes.

It's absolute misery whichever route you went and the primary thing that keeps me from having a thousand trove mules (and the fact that I simply don't want to do that much trove no matter how much money its worth)
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By Sylph.Reain 2022-03-22 08:58:18
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I predict they told the JPs in December so they could hoard vouchers.

https://leaguemili.com/blog-entry-2483.html

:)
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