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Random Politics & Religion #13
Random Politics & Religion #13
"english to sweedish"
Come on.
Come on.
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Pancakes has got my vote.
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Pancakes has got my vote.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Also the guy making these videos already has bad reputation of editing videos to prove his point ( I mean what MSM doesn't have the same rep though)
That's a cop out. Full, unedited quotes are present in these videos that leave little room for interpretation. People who are saying this haven't even looked into it and won't because they are afraid of what's there.
But this time, we are supposed to believe it without question for some reason.
Great article in the LA Times op-ed today, "Nazi Echoes in Trump's Tweets", written by Max Boot, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and foreign policy advisor to John McCain in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012 and this year, Marco Rubio
Boot states: "Trump gives every indication of wanting to burn down America's political house if he cannot be its leader." But Boot reserves his most scathing rebuke of Trump's charge that the election is "rigged." Of course it isn't...and voter fraud is not a factor---"Trump is assigning blame for his potential defeat to a shadowy cabal that includes such groups as international bankers and ethnic minorities. In the process he is violating the most basic tenant of democracy. The willingness of one side to accept defeat at the polls and acknowledge the legitimacy of the winning side."....unlike Nixon (1960), Gore (2000) "he is going to some very dark places where no previous presidential nominee has gone." Trump has this "army" of followers, what do they do when they lose?
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Boot states: "Trump gives every indication of wanting to burn down America's political house if he cannot be its leader." But Boot reserves his most scathing rebuke of Trump's charge that the election is "rigged." Of course it isn't...and voter fraud is not a factor---"Trump is assigning blame for his potential defeat to a shadowy cabal that includes such groups as international bankers and ethnic minorities. In the process he is violating the most basic tenant of democracy. The willingness of one side to accept defeat at the polls and acknowledge the legitimacy of the winning side."....unlike Nixon (1960), Gore (2000) "he is going to some very dark places where no previous presidential nominee has gone." Trump has this "army" of followers, what do they do when they lose?
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Everyone and anyone who leads another nation can walk all over Obama anyday.
I'd like to see what kind of metric you used to come to that conclusion.
How many times have Obama and his administration pissed off foreign leaders in the past 8 years?
Or are you going to say that foreign relations have improved since Obama took over?
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Pancakes has got my vote.
Clearly more qualified than the two candidates we have running now.
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Hello, outer world here. Obama is actually very respected.
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He has pretty high approval ratings. He wasn't perfect but find me a president who was.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Or are you going to say that foreign relations have improved since Obama took over?
Overall, yes a lot.
The pullout from Iraq lead to the instability in the Middle East, which helped create ISIS.
The NSA was caught spying on our allies, thanks to Snowden.
Russia has pretty much gotten away with all the ***they have been doing for the past 8 years, and all Obama has done about it is drawn "red lines in the sand."
North Korea has launched more missiles towards Japan than ever before, and not one of Obama's "sanctions" has curbed such activity.
China has been overly aggressive in the South China Sea and the US has done nothing to curtail it.
Face it, the world is not a better place than it was in 2009. And that was during the economic crisis!
More terror attacks, more nations testing each other's resolve, and the US doing absolutely nothing to even slow down rising tensions in various regions around the world. Hell, even climate change has gone nowhere since Obama became President, and that was his big deal.
It doesn't matter what people "feel" like, but what actions were done and what situations are currently. And expect more of the same with the Clinton administration, now with more corruption!
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Hello, outer world here. Obama is actually very respected.
Then you can have him. He's done enough damage here.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Or are you going to say that foreign relations have improved since Obama took over?
Overall, yes a lot.
The pullout from Iraq lead to the instability in the Middle East, which helped create ISIS.
The NSA was caught spying on our allies, thanks to Snowden.
Russia has pretty much gotten away with all the ***they have been doing for the past 8 years, and all Obama has done about it is drawn "red lines in the sand."
North Korea has launched more missiles towards Japan than ever before, and not one of Obama's "sanctions" has curbed such activity.
China has been overly aggressive in the South China Sea and the US has done nothing to curtail it.
Face it, the world is not a better place than it was in 2009. And that was during the economic crisis!
More terror attacks, more nations testing each other's resolve, and the US doing absolutely nothing to even slow down rising tensions in various regions around the world. Hell, even climate change has gone nowhere since Obama became President, and that was his big deal.
It doesn't matter what people "feel" like, but what actions were done and what situations are currently. And expect more of the same with the Clinton administration, now with more corruption!
You really can't blame Obama for any of those things.
- Pulling out in Iraq. In the same way that the american people wanted to go to war in 2001 they wanted to get out in 2009. Both Bush and Obama made decisions based on what the people wanted at the time. There was a lot of mistakes made here by both administrations which did lead to growth of ISIS. You can't hold either president responsible for that though.
- Obama is to blame here?
- What are we supposed to do? Go to war with Russia? Vote Hillary if you want that.
- North Korea does what they want, not sure what influence Obama will have here
- What are we supposed to do to China?
You need to remember that I president just can't sign into office and just start making things change. Congress plays a big role in whether something will pass or not. Congress it the reason why Obama care wasn't as good as it could have been.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Or are you going to say that foreign relations have improved since Obama took over?
Overall, yes a lot.
The pullout from Iraq lead to the instability in the Middle East, which helped create ISIS.
The NSA was caught spying on our allies, thanks to Snowden.
Russia has pretty much gotten away with all the ***they have been doing for the past 8 years, and all Obama has done about it is drawn "red lines in the sand."
North Korea has launched more missiles towards Japan than ever before, and not one of Obama's "sanctions" has curbed such activity.
China has been overly aggressive in the South China Sea and the US has done nothing to curtail it.
Face it, the world is not a better place than it was in 2009. And that was during the economic crisis!
More terror attacks, more nations testing each other's resolve, and the US doing absolutely nothing to even slow down rising tensions in various regions around the world. Hell, even climate change has gone nowhere since Obama became President, and that was his big deal.
It doesn't matter what people "feel" like, but what actions were done and what situations are currently. And expect more of the same with the Clinton administration, now with more corruption!
The whole you not having a grasp on reality thing isn't all that surprising though...you don't seem to know why we pulled out of Iraq and you also seem to use that red line thing pretty liberally even though he only stated in relation to one event... So on and so forth...
For someone who says feels don't play a big part in this yours seem to be all over your sleeves...
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eliroo said: »
Congress it the reason why Obama care wasn't as good as it could have been.
Uhhh... so, you're going to hold blameless the guy who helped stage backroom deals and fought so hard to push it through in its current form?
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Need more outlandish, unsubstantiated claims. Maybe if you repeat things enough someone might believe them.
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Or are you going to say that foreign relations have improved since Obama took over?
Overall, yes a lot.
The pullout from Iraq lead to the instability in the Middle East, which helped create ISIS.
The NSA was caught spying on our allies, thanks to Snowden.
Russia has pretty much gotten away with all the ***they have been doing for the past 8 years, and all Obama has done about it is drawn "red lines in the sand."
North Korea has launched more missiles towards Japan than ever before, and not one of Obama's "sanctions" has curbed such activity.
China has been overly aggressive in the South China Sea and the US has done nothing to curtail it.
Face it, the world is not a better place than it was in 2009. And that was during the economic crisis!
More terror attacks, more nations testing each other's resolve, and the US doing absolutely nothing to even slow down rising tensions in various regions around the world. Hell, even climate change has gone nowhere since Obama became President, and that was his big deal.
It doesn't matter what people "feel" like, but what actions were done and what situations are currently. And expect more of the same with the Clinton administration, now with more corruption!
The whole you not having a grasp on reality thing isn't all that surprising though...you don't seem to know why we pulled out of Iraq and you also seem to use that red line thing pretty liberally even though he only stated in relation to one event... So on and so forth...
For someone who says feels don't play a big part in this yours seem to be all over your sleeves...
So, uh, are you capable of forming a response in here that doesn't attack the person, or is directly addressing the content too much to ask?
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
America isn't some kind of world police, you can't invade everyone whenever you don't like what they do. You are delusional about ISIS, it would have been created regardless.
I think it is safe to say that our military actions combined with us leaving before properly stabilizing the area made ISIS a lot more relevant than what it would have been. I don't think that Bush or Obama can be blamed for this but to America is definitely to blame for their rising.
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