Jack Of All Trades: A Guide To Red Mage

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By Penpenn 2022-02-18 08:59:10
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Why Skrymir Cord +1 over Orpheus Sash? There isn't really a good enough reason to not stand basically on top of the mob while you nuke in Omen... they don't hit that hard and you can aquaveil if you are too lazy to sleep/frazzle it beforehand.

Also, is Ghastly Tathlum +1 R15 better than Pemphredo? Especially since Macc shouldn't be an issue

Pemphredo 4 INT, 8 Macc, 4 MAB, 0 MagDmg
Ghastly T 7-11 INT, 0 Macc, 0 MAB, 21 MagDmg

I think trading 8 MAcc and 4 MAB for 21 MagDmg and 3-7 INT is worth it.
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By Asura.Toralin 2022-02-18 10:15:03
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Penpenn said: »
Why Skrymir Cord +1 over Orpheus Sash? There isn't really a good enough reason to not stand basically on top of the mob while you nuke in Omen... they don't hit that hard and you can aquaveil if you are too lazy to sleep/frazzle it beforehand.

Also, is Ghastly Tathlum +1 R15 better than Pemphredo? Especially since Macc shouldn't be an issue

Pemphredo 4 INT, 8 Macc, 4 MAB, 0 MagDmg
Ghastly T 7-11 INT, 0 Macc, 0 MAB, 21 MagDmg

I think trading 8 MAcc and 4 MAB for 21 MagDmg and 3-7 INT is worth it.
Good call, using Selandrile so it auto puts on Orph sash when standing close. I was thinking about the Ghastly as possibility
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By Cerberus.Bongsolo 2022-02-24 15:01:22
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Anyone mind posting there Ngai sets? Or suggestions outside of wsd ring.
ItemSet 383824
Back= Dex, Acc/attack/DA/PDT

ItemSet 383830
Back= Str, Acc/attack/WSD
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-02-24 16:30:15
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I was looking at that first set thinking, why would anyone use this gear for Savage Blade.... lol

You meant Subtle Blow.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-02-24 16:59:29
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And I was looking at his first sentence and was wondering why RDM would need sets for the Ninja mythic.
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By Asura.Bippin 2022-02-24 18:37:56
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Are you planning for Auspice in Subtle Blow set? Only need 25 in gear assuming WHM has Empy+1 Feet.
If you are not then short 14 Subtle blow.


Edit: Sarissapho. Belt Would be another 5 without giving up much.
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By Cerberus.Bongsolo 2022-02-24 19:23:36
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Asura.Bippin said: »
Are you planning for Auspice in Subtle Blow set? Only need 25 in gear assuming WHM has Empy+1 Feet.
If you are not then short 14 Subtle blow.


Edit: Sarissapho. Belt Would be another 5 without giving up much.
Empy feet slipped off the top of my head, thanks. Can change neck.
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By Asura.Toralin 2022-02-24 19:33:22
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Fwiw,

Rdm/nin in ody c seg farm is incredible, throw in the refresh/haste2/phalanx2. Dia3 on NMs, was a struggle keeping up on the parse on SAM, eventually edged out but I was bringing nothing buff wise to the party like the RDM was
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By Homsar 2022-03-02 18:46:41
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Sorry if these have been asked, but this thread is huge:

Does the effect of Phalanx+ gear stick after the gear is swapped? I assume it does, but can't find quickly find any verification.

Can DM augments give Phalanx+ to weapons?
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By Asura.Bippin 2022-03-02 18:56:08
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Homsar said: »
Does the effect of Phalanx+ gear stick after the gear is swapped? I assume it does, but can't find quickly find any verification.
Yes just need the gear on when it is cast on you.
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By Trillium 2022-03-02 20:24:59
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Homsar said: »
Sorry if these have been asked, but this thread is huge:

Does the effect of Phalanx+ gear stick after the gear is swapped? I assume it does, but can't find quickly find any verification.

Can DM augments give Phalanx+ to weapons?

To answer your second question, yes. For example, I have phalanx +5 on a colada.
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By Vaerix 2022-03-02 23:13:32
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Trillium said: »
Homsar said: »
Sorry if these have been asked, but this thread is huge:

Does the effect of Phalanx+ gear stick after the gear is swapped? I assume it does, but can't find quickly find any verification.

Can DM augments give Phalanx+ to weapons?

To answer your second question, yes. For example, I have phalanx +5 on a colada.

//-Added to "To Do" list if I ever finish my herc phalanx set for run/blu-\\
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-03-03 00:31:34
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Vaerix said: »
herc phalanx set for run/blu

BLU/RDM gets Phalanx +5 sword in Sakpata's Sword, so no need to stress over DM augments from Colada.
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By Guyford 2022-03-03 01:15:36
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Vaerix said: »
herc phalanx set for run/blu

BLU/RDM gets Phalanx +5 sword in Sakpata's Sword, so no need to stress over DM augments from Colada.

BLU and RDM generally have DW, so you need a 2nd phalanx sword. RDM gets oboro weapon with +2, BLU doesnt have another to my knowledge.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2022-03-03 01:31:36
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Guyford said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Vaerix said: »
herc phalanx set for run/blu

BLU/RDM gets Phalanx +5 sword in Sakpata's Sword, so no need to stress over DM augments from Colada.

BLU and RDM generally have DW, so you need a 2nd phalanx sword. RDM gets oboro weapon with +2, BLU doesnt have another to my knowledge.
Colada can get +5 from DM
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By Vaerix 2022-03-03 04:21:26
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Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »
Guyford said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Vaerix said: »
herc phalanx set for run/blu

BLU/RDM gets Phalanx +5 sword in Sakpata's Sword, so no need to stress over DM augments from Colada.

BLU and RDM generally have DW, so you need a 2nd phalanx sword. RDM gets oboro weapon with +2, BLU doesnt have another to my knowledge.
Colada can get +5 from DM

I believe this was in reference to saying don't stress colada because of sakpata's sword, I'd rather have the +5 covering both jobs for offhand, 10 with sakpata covering both. Could finally get rid of egeking. Also I have no intention of stopping my herc Aug obsession, oboro will someday complete my rune :-(

Someday...
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2022-03-03 04:33:15
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+1 for getting rid of egeking.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-03-11 16:56:38
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Anyone know what's the current best set for Chant du Cygne? This is what I'm using currently:

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By Torzak 2022-03-11 19:15:57
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I use a Mache+1 (8dex, 10acc, and 2DA) instead of Moonshade (~2.5% Crit Rate). In 2018 when I was looking to calculate each stat's contribution to CDC, 1 DEX and 1% crit rate were fairly interchangeable, and we've since gotten Blistering & Zoar to boost the crit rate quite noticeably, which further diminishes the return on adding more.

With that mentioned, it's a similar thing comparing Begrudging (7acc, 7attack, 5% crit) vs augmented Cacoethic Ring (11acc, 10dex). Dropping the +enmity is nice, too.

I don't know what you're running on those hands or body, but I quite like Malignance Glove's 25STR/56dex and Ayanmo Corazza's 28STR/48DEX & 7DA.
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By Asura.Aburaage 2022-03-11 19:27:42
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How's Bunzi body piece? +7PDL should be quite good
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By Guyford 2022-03-11 20:44:59
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On the subject of CDC bodies, ayanmo +2 still has 48 dex and 7da, how does that compare? Definetly seems better than Nyame (not taking into account sc dmg).

Edit: I clearly didn't finish reading the post 2 posts up.
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By SimonSes 2022-03-12 04:45:50
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Torzak said: »
I don't know what you're running on those hands or body, but I quite like Malignance Glove's 25STR/56dex and Ayanmo Corazza's 28STR/48DEX & 7DA.

Blistering
Ayanmo(body)
Malignance(gloves)
Zoar(subligar)
Thereoid

is that between all those pieces you have +25 attack.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-03-12 07:38:04
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Yeah, I had Path B Nyame body and hands in there for the +60 attack each and the double attack. RDM is already incredibly attack starved in general, and removing those pieces for Malignance or Ayanmo drops my unbuffed attack in WS set from about 1200 to 1080, and when you aren't buffed out the wazoo I wasn't sure if the higher DEX of Ayanmo or Malignance would usually make up for that.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 04:34:47
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A returning friend of mine needs to leech some CP, and since on RDM I need less trusts than on other jobs I want to give it a shot.
To give an idea of the level of targets I'm gonna be CPing in either Dho, Sih, Moh o Woh gates according to how much crowded those zones are.

I was trying to compare setups for solo CP, which of these setups do you guys think would prove to give more CP/hr?


Setup 1

Setup 2

Setup 3

Setup 4
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 05:03:29
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Measured from my friend's char point of view (zero Job Points) Setup1 is producing ~680k CP/hr, Setup4 is producing ~740k CP/hr.
Does that sound in line with expected results, I wonder?
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By phunky 2022-03-22 05:07:11
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I've found using Crocea / thibron and 4 or 5 stepping gives me the highest solo dps.

Red lotus blade > seraph blade or vice versa chains into infinity. Works best on outer raz bats and should work well on dho gates bats. Shantoto ii, double bards and a healer.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 05:09:20
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Oooooh that sounds very nice, I didn't consider multistepping but yeaaah, nice idea Phunky, I can see that beating all the other options I listed.


Edit:
Yep, getting ~820k CP/hr with that setup Phunky, nice! Thanks for the tip :-D
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-22 14:21:01
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Btw tried Daybreak vs Thibron for the Red Lotus Blade > Seraph Blade setup Phunky suggested me.

No big surprise maybe, but while Daybreak raised the Seraph Blade avg, it lowered the Red Lotus Blade one.

With my current setup of 3 trusts my WSavg was ~15k (Daybreak) and ~17k (Thibron)
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By Leviathan.Supernads 2022-03-22 14:33:31
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In the gates zones using Ayame is also an option. Just put up distract 3 and she should be able to build tp pretty fast. Just use seraph blade and then magic burst to finish off the mob.
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By Patter 2022-05-03 13:38:34
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Anyone have a really up to date Selandrile Lua for RDM?
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