Jack Of All Trades: A Guide To Red Mage

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 Ragnarok.Rydal
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By Ragnarok.Rydal 2016-10-10 22:35:09
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By Ragnarok.Rydal 2016-10-10 22:36:22
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Safety Post.

Status of the guide:


-Complete the Weapon Analysis Done!
-Listing all the magic spells RDM has access to, their effects, level obtained, possibly formulas Done!
-Help creating and inputting gearsets into the guide Done!
-Link to a good and easily customizable RDM lua for GS users
-Link to a RDM spreadsheet
-Add that "hover over the item and you can see the description" thing this site has Done!
-Proofread for errors Done! I think...

Please PM if you'd like to assist or notice any errors. Thanks.
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By Thandor 2016-10-10 23:06:24
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very nice so far
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By Asura.Hitome 2016-10-10 23:12:04
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This is great. :) Thank you so much for putting in the time, Rydal!
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By Ragnarok.Sogomi 2016-10-12 23:31:08
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Thank you Rydal!
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By Boshi 2016-10-13 11:23:57
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For the sake of info on uk'uxkaj feet, some quick testing in brenner on enfeebling skill dependant enfeebs

(Set used grio no enfeeb aug, meoh grip, quartz+1, relic hat, incant torque, neptune pearl, enfeeb ear, empymbody, empymhand, glob ring, stik nq ring, amb cape mnd30 macc20 fc10, rumination sash, psycloth B)
Target: naked 2100 hume rng/nin

medium's sabots[mp45 mnd9 conmp5 curepot4]
Distract3: -106
Distract3 saboteur: -212
Poison2: 126/tic

uk'uxkaj boots[mnd8 haste2 snapshot2]
Distract3: -107
Distract3 saboteur: -211
Poison2: 127/tic


Note: skaoi would be an addition +2 skill over medium's

Note2: the sabo numbers are not a typo, uk won by 1 everytime but sabo distract mediums won by 1. The medium's sabo was exactly x2 of non sabo, ukuxkaj with sabo was short by 3.
Seems bonus from saboteur is independant of the "enhances enfeebling magic effect"
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By Boshi 2016-10-13 11:29:42
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I'm gonna add these into the guide soon and redo the enfeeb section by type: but for reference here's max potency sets

Distract addle frazzle poison
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Staff enfeeb16 (and mnd for non poison)
Aptus enfeeb+2, best alternate for fraz/addle/dis is mnd4 ear, for poison just max macc ear (dignitary)
Legs pathB for mnd7 for dis/addle/fraz, technically path D would be better for poison
Cape: mnd30 macc20 fc10 dis/addle/fraz, int20 macc30 fc10 poison

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Hands --> empy119 for saboteur
staff mnd+20 taup, then go for macc
all chironic mnd+15 taup, then go for macc
Feet aug Mnd+8 haste2
Cape mnd30 macc20 fc10

(On the capes that 3rd aug fastcast doesn't really matter but it's the best of what's availible. Helps with recast on like slow, gravity, impact)
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By Asura.Patriclis 2016-10-13 11:53:13
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Keep in mind Quick Magic casts spells immediately and gearswaps will not be considered for potency. It is best used for spells that are not affected by potency.

Not sure about vanilla final fantasy, but when using Gearswap, this isn't actually true.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2016-10-13 12:20:44
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I'd consider it half true. My experience has been that Gearswap fails to swap in time for quick magic proc in laggy instanced zones, and it's not entirely clear to me why. The chunks must somehow be given different priorities or the order must be messed up or something.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-10-13 12:51:14
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I'd consider it half true. My experience has been that Gearswap fails to swap in time for quick magic proc in laggy instanced zones, and it's not entirely clear to me why. The chunks must somehow be given different priorities or the order must be messed up or something.

I've witnessed this as well. It's a serious issue because an incorrectly handled quick magic proc can often be very detrimental (fewer Utsusemi shadows, bad gear, etc.)
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By Siren.Kyte 2016-10-13 12:57:10
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Yeah, I've definitely noticed some (very occasional) weirdness well.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-10-13 13:16:04
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It's actually frequent for me. Kinda sucks.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2016-10-13 13:43:00
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10% of the time it happens half the time
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By Ragnarok.Rydal 2016-10-13 15:42:13
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Yeah I haven't had time this week because of work and crazy personal life stuff, but hopefully I can clean stuff up and add things this weekend. I haven't touched the guide since Monday so feel free to PM me with fixes and such. Boshi can make edits as well.
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By Valefor.Kiaru 2016-10-15 06:56:53
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Hi, I have a question.
For some unknown reason, RDM is not on the eminent staff so they just do massively less damage than any other mage until they get the griovolr staff.

However, Griovolr is from a NM that's probably out of reach for someone just returning.

What good nuking weapon should a new player/returning RDM try to obtain?
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By Afania 2016-10-15 07:00:28
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Valefor.Kiaru said: »
Hi, I have a question.
For some unknown reason, RDM is not on the eminent staff so they just do massively less damage than any other mage until they get the griovolr staff.

However, Griovolr is from a NM that's probably out of reach for someone just returning.

What good nuking weapon should a new player/returning RDM try to obtain?


Arasy staff is just AH gear.
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By Valefor.Kiaru 2016-10-15 07:11:37
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Thanks a lot! You're always super helpful <3

What about cure potency weapon?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2016-10-15 07:17:42
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It also requires 50 job points to equip.

Get the WKR Club for an easy cure potency weapon.
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By Valefor.Kiaru 2016-10-15 07:30:37
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Oh, arasy takes 50 job points...

Can't get that.
Any other option?
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By Afania 2016-10-15 08:07:59
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Do you have any delve clear or 119 JSE weapon unlock? Idk what you have access too currently.
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By Ragnarok.Rydal 2016-10-15 08:20:50
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Lehbrailg +2 is probably the best 119 staff you can get solo if you're below 50JP and don't have access to Delve. You can get a Kupon for it from completing Records of Eminence quests on Intermediate. If you chose the sword or something else, you'll have to use the Eminent Club until you get a better weapon.

I'll add it to the guide a little later.
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By Valefor.Kiaru 2016-10-15 08:23:51
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Afania said: »
Do you have any delve clear or 119 JSE weapon unlock? Idk what you have access too currently.
No.
Have done pretty much zero new content besides ROE missions.
Have only done up to the 1-11 ROE mission.
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By Ragnarok.Rydal 2016-10-15 08:28:08
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Valefor.Kiaru said: »
Afania said: »
Do you have any delve clear or 119 JSE weapon unlock? Idk what you have access too currently.
No.
Have done pretty much zero new content besides ROE missions.
Have only done up to the 1-11 ROE mission.

Get the WKR clears so you can get a Tamaxchi for your Cure Potency set. Work on Delve and Skirmish so you can get some items from there for everything else.
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By Valefor.Kiaru 2016-10-15 08:40:52
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Kupon AW-WK - A pick of any one item dropped from a Wildskeeper Reive NM.

This thing? Can I duo an easy boss? I have no idea how do get into a boss fight and I have 0 pop items etc.
Thanks a lot btw!

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https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Kupon_W-SRW
Oh this one
edit2: I guess I'll just go do ROE missions first or something
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By Asura.Blitzjr 2016-10-15 09:35:02
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Pretty dope so far. Can't wait to see the rest.
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By DanielH 2016-10-15 16:15:17
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Valefor.Kiaru said: »
Kupon AW-WK - A pick of any one item dropped from a Wildskeeper Reive NM.

This thing? Can I duo an easy boss? I have no idea how do get into a boss fight and I have 0 pop items etc.
Thanks a lot btw!

edit:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Kupon_W-SRW
Oh this one
edit2: I guess I'll just go do ROE missions first or something

Possibly not, can /yell you're doing one before you go, may get people come and help out.
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By Asura.Thorva 2016-10-15 16:32:10
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Unless I am missing something, which is possible, wouldn't Reforge empy feet beat inspirited boots for duration on refresh?

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By Ragnarok.Rydal 2016-10-15 17:41:16
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They do. I was just listing options for Refresh.
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By Lakshmi.Ipsen 2016-10-18 17:22:53
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Fairly new to RDM but I personally use Carmine Mask +1 D15 for enfeebles over Befouled Crown.
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By Ragnarok.Alexhander 2016-10-21 18:24:40
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can someone pass me a good gs with dd option too please?
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