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Random Politics & Religion #08
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-07-27 01:09:05
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »that's just how things work these days vicious. you have your facts and I'll stick with my feelings and what the american people feel.
also thanks dork now by typing your name I'm compelled to watch cowboy bebop again for your namesake's utter badassness
You can't just declare something a fact because you like it. It is a complete distraction away from the fixed election as detailed in the emails that were never supposed to see the light of day. Vic is being a good little foot soldier running with the lie.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2016-07-27 01:09:24
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »that's just how things work these days vicious. you have your facts and I'll stick with my feelings and what the american people feel.
also thanks dork now by typing your name I'm compelled to watch cowboy bebop again for your namesake's utter badassness I believe facts are overrated, and the fact that I believe that is true.
Jk, that's a false statement.
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Ragnarok.Hevans
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2016-07-27 01:23:04
what if putin IS supporting trump, but ONLY to make trump look bad cause he's illuminati with hillary?!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-07-27 02:31:58
Please come back to planet earth. Comey casually dismantled every single one of the Republicans talking points in that hearing, but you'll dismiss his authority because it's not what you want to hear. Thankfully the universe doesn't operate on what you feel is true.
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-27 04:14:44
There is no proof of the russian hackers claim.
Regardless though, it was some criminals.
And regardless of that too, it doesn't change the content. So I'm not sure why we even waste time discussing who did it, that's just a matter for the fbi.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Eradius 2016-07-27 04:37:41
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »Both Putin and Kim have endorsed Trump.
I assure you they do not have America's best interests in mind.
They endorse Trump because he is putting America first and foremost in every policy plan. Meaning focusing on the 50 states and not overthrowing governments across the world. Trump is not a globalist like the Bush family or Clinton family or Our current president.
Honestly I'm not looking for the approval of the world I am looking for the approval of the citizens of the United States. They want leadership that will clean up the filth of Washington DC and rebuild this country. I'm voting Trump November 4th. The idea of a nation is antiquated and for a far different era of disconnect anyway.
The more united we are as a species, the better we make the world and the quality of life for all of us.
While this way of thinking is the most moral, the issue is that its not possible. Creating a Utopia is only something you would see in a post scarcity society, which we're more than a century of hard work from ever having. In other words, a world without borders, hunger, thirst, or homelessness is not currently attainable. Due to that, the "rules of nature" are in effect, which demand there will always be haves and have nots.
Its not a question of whats right, but what is possible. You wouldn't be able to tear down all the nations, globalize the world, and have it equal right now. There's no such thing as a free lunch: someone, somewhere, someway, would have to pay for it until a better system is in effect.
Until we have the technology and resources to warrant such an action, any sort of approach that direction is completely meaniningless and brings wasted effort. For now, people should retain their nations, their identity, and instead continue to prepare for the day that post scarcity can be made reality.
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-07-27 06:06:26
Please come back to planet earth. Comey casually dismantled every single one of the Republicans talking points in that hearing, but you'll dismiss his authority because it's not what you want to hear. Thankfully the universe doesn't operate on what you feel is true. Pleebo, you're the king of hearing what you want. When a cop lets you go with a warning for going 85 in a 65, it doesn't mean you didn't break the law. No matter how much you feel it to be.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 07:19:44
Yes once again, we will just ignore the FBI and take your word for it.
Blue lives matter, but black-and-white lives are suspect because down with the federal government, amirite?
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 07:20:46
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »your namesake's utter badassness
Badass? Vicious was a douchenozzle.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 07:22:13
When a cop lets you go with a warning for going 85 in a 65
Doesn't happen. >:(
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-27 07:30:19
When a cop lets you go with a warning for going 85 in a 65
Doesn't happen. >:( Does if you're cute!
Sometimes some men's instinct to be nice to women runs counter to objectivity.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 07:32:28
When a cop lets you go with a warning for going 85 in a 65
Doesn't happen. >:( Does if you're cute!
Sometimes some men's instinct to be nice to women runs counter to objectivity.
This doesn't help me.
Speed limits are arbitrary and worthless. >:(
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-27 07:33:49
Of course they are arbitrary, but sure aren't worthless.
It worries me a lot when I see idiots going 100 km/h in the middle of town.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 07:39:42
Of course they are arbitrary, but sure aren't worthless.
It worries me a lot when I see idiots going 100 km/h in the middle of town.
Yeah. And Italian city streets are wee-tiny-bad from what I've seen. Very. narrow. (Please note: my experience is limited to Top Gear visits to your country.)
I'm okay with them in city limits and on two-lane rural/side roads.
But on four-lane highways and the like they're really, really irritating.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-07-27 07:50:32
When a cop lets you go with a warning for going 85 in a 65
Doesn't happen. >:( Does if you're cute!
Sometimes some men's instinct to be nice to women runs counter to objectivity.
This doesn't help me.
Speed limits are arbitrary and worthless. >:(
You could be a lawyer.
"Posted speed limits are suggestions unless the sign indicates maximum"
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-27 07:51:44
And Italian city streets are wee-tiny-bad from what I've seen. Very. narrow. (Please note: my experience is limited to Top Gear visits to your country.) They are for the most part yeah.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 07:51:55
Actually, for another semester in school I could add "pre-law" to my undergrad and then embark into the glorious debt incurred by law school!
...pass, though.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 07:53:09
And Italian city streets are wee-tiny-bad from what I've seen. Very. narrow. (Please note: my experience is limited to Top Gear visits to your country.) They are for the most part yeah.
I just remember the one episode where one of the guys is driving what I believe is even an Italian sports car down something that's labeled as a "street" and he's got barely a few inches on each side of the car between buildings.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-27 07:56:38
barely a few inches on each side of the car between buildings And some of those streets are two-way too.. <_<
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-27 08:37:04
When a cop lets you go with a warning for going 85 in a 65
Doesn't happen. >:( Not only does it not happen it's not even an accurate analogy...
Screaming Benghazi 30 times a day didn't work so we are on to this now all the time... Sigh...
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By fonewear 2016-07-27 08:55:19
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »lol, actually what Assange said is garbage. Its not solid nor insightful, its fantasy. The evidence against Russia did not originate from the Clinton camp at all, which debunks your conspiracy theory.
There is no evidence, just misdirection.
Yes once again, we will just ignore the FBI and take your word for it.
FBI if you are reading this please ignore it !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-27 09:23:27
Please come back to planet earth. Comey casually dismantled every single one of the Republicans talking points in that hearing, but you'll dismiss his authority because it's not what you want to hear. Thankfully the universe doesn't operate on what you feel is true.
Actually, some of the Republican talking points are that she is incompetent and untrustworthy. Not only did Comey not dismantle those, he did an excellent job of actually building them up.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-27 09:30:24
I don't know why people are ignoring the law, especially Comey.
Clinton did break the law and intent has nothing to do with it.
Specifically, §3544 (a)(1)(A)(i), (a)(1)(A)(ii), (a)(1)(B)(i), (a)(1)(B)(ii), and (a)(1)(C)
FISMA said: § 3544. Federal agency responsibilities
(a) IN GENERAL.—The head of each agency shall—
(1) be responsible for—
(A) providing information security protections
commensurate with the risk and magnitude of the harm
resulting from unauthorized access, use, disclosure, disruption,
modification, or destruction of—
(i) information collected or maintained by or on
behalf of the agency; and
(ii) information systems used or operated by an
agency or by a contractor of an agency or other
organization on behalf of an agency;
(B) complying with the requirements of this subchapter
and related policies, procedures, standards, and
guidelines, including—
(i) information security standards promulgated
under section 11331 of title 40; and
(ii) information security standards and guidelines
for national security systems issued in accordance with
law and as directed by the President; and
(C) ensuring that information security management
processes are integrated with agency strategic and operational
planning processes;
Not only is that a blatant disregard for the law, but also shows sever ineptitude when it comes to directing and handling secure information.
She was in charge of government information for crying out loud. How can anyone defend her for her "extreme carelessness"?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-27 09:32:11
Oh, and I would like to see people say she did not break the law, when it clearly is shown above that she did.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-27 09:35:39
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »The more united we are as a species, the better we make the world and the quality of life for all of us. Thanks to the internet, we have become more divided as a species than ever before.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-07-27 09:41:06
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »The more united we are as a species, the better we make the world and the quality of life for all of us. Thanks to the internet, we have become more divided as a species than ever before.
No we haven't.
Stop going to shitty gossip sites and reading comment sections where the worst dregs of society see fit to post their bile.
By Ramyrez 2016-07-27 09:47:14
Can't we all just accept that both main party candidates are law-disregarding scum who are both incompetent and untrustworthy and we're basically just voting for party ideals far more than candidates at this point?
I don't see the point in debating endlessly about the quality of these people. If their "beliefs" were reversed and they were the opposite party's candidates, we'd simply be taking opposing points from our current because of our own enlightened self-interest. And lest we blow smoke up our own *** (because I'm not flexible enough for that), let us look at BOTH of their histories: they've both switched party affiliation and beliefs. It's not really that outlandish that history could have played out with them in opposite positions.
If you truly feel either/both are terrible, vote for Stein or Johnson. Vote a write-in if they're all unacceptable to you. That vote will be logged and will not be "wasted." You're not likely to win, but if we see record numbers of votes NOT for the main party candidates, they're going to have to consider what's going wrong for them. Especially if it continues over years and decades and they see their bases slipping away.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-27 09:47:33
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »The more united we are as a species, the better we make the world and the quality of life for all of us. Thanks to the internet, we have become more divided as a species than ever before.
No we haven't.
Stop going to shitty gossip sites and reading comment sections where the worst dregs of society see fit to post their bile. But I like it here!
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