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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-18 09:59:12
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cruz Missive said: »

It thinks "interprets", and "fire" are both one syllable.

Tsk, tsk
Meh, today is my Day of Mourning, so I don't really give a ***if the website is right or wrong.
Good luck with your Morning Mourning my southern friend.
It sucks so far.
Well then don't waste it in this location you claim to be horrible and annoying; Spend it somewhere better.
I'm procrastinating!

I got a doctor's visit, oil change, groceries, and taking over the world to do today! I don't want to get started though...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-18 10:01:01
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Yeah, I've seen some articles proclaiming that basically this election is to choose our next one-term president.
Well of course it is.

I have exactly 365 days until I'm eligible to become President. So, of course whoever wins will be a one-term president.

Cause I'm awesome like that.

Kingnobody vs. Lordgrim, 2020 elections. I could see that. Crazier things have happened are happening.
I should totally create a thread, call it "Kingnobody v. Lordgrim, FFXIAH.com Elections" or something like that.
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By fonewear 2016-07-18 10:08:29
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Hello sausage my old friend
I've come to grind with you again
Because a hot dog softly creeping
Gave me its seed while I was sleeping
And the meat that was implanted in my brat
Still proves that
Within the sounds of sausage
%%%
In restless dinner sat alone
A liverwurst upon its throne
Neath potato's gravy
I pushed my fork against the natural casing
When the skin
Was punctured by the steely tines
Split the mind
Touched by the sounds
Of sausage
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-18 10:22:09
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T S Eliot
Once said it all but not with
So few syllables.

Quote:
The Hollow Men

Mistah Kurtz-he dead
A penny for the Old Guy

I

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us-if at all-not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II

Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer-

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III

This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV

The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V

Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
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By fonewear 2016-07-18 10:29:32
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Now that we saw good poetry I'll have to counter with this:

ive got beans and tambourines
beans and tambourines
bouncing these beans
into limousines
the beans and the peas
the beans and the peas
i got the sweat peas
that'll bring ya to your knees
because this stands open
and this stands open
we opened up shop three months ago no jokin
now we got the flow
with all the things I grow
and now I'm bringing my fresh produce to the show
and i saaaaayyyyy ohhhh
snap
passs me a carrrot
I'll share it with you
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-18 10:34:05
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By fonewear 2016-07-18 10:38:12
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Politics you say!

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-07-18 11:16:45
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
T S Eliot
Once said it all but not with
So few syllables.

Quote:
The Hollow Men

Mistah Kurtz-he dead
A penny for the Old Guy

I

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us-if at all-not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II

Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer-

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III

This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV

The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V

Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

I was always more of a Nathanael West fan than a T.S Elliot but I found The Hollow Men to be good, yet felt that The Waste Land to be better.


On a different note Chachi in Charge is going to speak at the RNC! Scott Baio..how many other former stars of the 80s turned reality stars in 00's is Trump going to pull out his hat? Not sure if Trump is a master satirist, or target demographic is really that low.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-18 11:18:46
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Not sure if Trump is a master satirist, or target demographic is really that low.

I find the former can really feed off of the latter, so possibly both.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-18 13:11:49
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Not sure if Trump is a master satirist, or target demographic is really that low.
No satirist Tump
Pure simple satire himself
Target is lowest
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-18 13:17:44
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P. S.

Yes Zero, "The Wasteland" is a better poem but "The Hollow Men" is SO appropriate to today.

My favorite of his is still "She Being Brand New."

Mods please rename thread
Random politics religion and
Poetry slam dunk
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-07-18 13:17:47
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Collect Telegram from a Mad Dog
by Hunter S. Thompson

Not being a poet, and drunk as well,
leaning into the diner and dawn
and hearing a juke box mockery of some better
human sound
I wanted rhetoric
but could only howl the rotten truth
Norman Luboff
should have his nuts ripped off with a plastic fork.
Then howled around like a man with the
final angst,
not knowing what I wanted there
Probably the waitress, bend her double
like a safety pin,
Deposit the mad seed before they
tie off my tubes
. . .

Suddenly a man with wild eyes rushed
out from the wooden toilet
Foam on his face and waving a razor
like a flag, shouting
. . .
We'll take our vengeance now!
. . .

We rang for Luboff
on the pay phone, but there was
no contact
. . .

Get a Lawyer, I said. These swine have gone
far enough.
Now is the time to
lay a writ on them,
Cease and Desist
. . .

The legal man agreed
We had a case and indeed a duty to
Right these Wrongs, as it were
The Price would be four thousand in front and
ten for the nut.
I wrote him a check on the Sawtooth
National Bank,
but he hooted at it
While rubbing a special oil on
his palms
To keep the chancres from itching
beyond endurance
On this Sabbath.
. . .
Later, from jail
I sent a brace of telegrams
to the right people,
explaining my position.
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By fonewear 2016-07-18 14:43:00
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Not sure if Trump is a master satirist, or target demographic is really that low.
No satirist Tump
Pure simple satire himself
Target is lowest

I agree Target is pretty bad. Almost as bad as K Mart...
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-07-18 14:44:48
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Yeah, I've seen some articles proclaiming that basically this election is to choose our next one-term president.
Well of course it is.

I have exactly 365 days until I'm eligible to become President. So, of course whoever wins will be a one-term president.

Cause I'm awesome like that.

Kingnobody vs. Lordgrim, 2020 elections. I could see that. Crazier things have happened are happening.
I should totally create a thread, call it "Kingnobody v. Lordgrim, FFXIAH.com Elections" or something like that.
I'm writing in Steven Armstrong if that thread happens. :|
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-07-18 14:52:51
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/18/asia/turkey-attempted-coup/index.html
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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told CNN he would approve reinstating the death penalty if lawmakers backed the measure in Parliament. He called the attempted coup on Friday a "clear crime of treason."
In his first one-on-one interview since the attempted coup by a faction of the military, Erdogan on Monday said citizens are demanding the death penalty for coup plotters.

"The people now have the idea, after so many terrorist incidents, that these terrorists should be killed," Erdogan told CNN's Becky Anderson through his translator. "Why should I keep them and feed them in prisons for years to come?"
The President didn't specify whether he'd seek the death penalty for Muslim cleric Fethullah Gulen, who the president says was behind the attempt to overthrow him. He said he'll submit a formal request to the United States within days for Gulen's extradition.

If Turkey reintroduces the death penalty, it won't be joining the European Union, according to EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini.
"Let me be very clear on one thing ... No country can become an EU member state if it introduces [the] death penalty," Mogherini said.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-07-18 14:53:41
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O blames military
Instead of Islamic ties
Impeach him today!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-18 14:56:51
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Yeah, I've seen some articles proclaiming that basically this election is to choose our next one-term president.
Well of course it is.

I have exactly 365 days until I'm eligible to become President. So, of course whoever wins will be a one-term president.

Cause I'm awesome like that.

Kingnobody vs. Lordgrim, 2020 elections. I could see that. Crazier things have happened are happening.
I should totally create a thread, call it "Kingnobody v. Lordgrim, FFXIAH.com Elections" or something like that.
I'm writing in Steven Armstrong if that thread happens. :|
(although I get the reference)

I would write in Ann Richards myself.

Who knows, I might write her in this year anyway.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-18 14:58:19
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/18/asia/turkey-attempted-coup/index.html
Quote:
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told CNN he would approve reinstating the death penalty if lawmakers backed the measure in Parliament. He called the attempted coup on Friday a "clear crime of treason."
In his first one-on-one interview since the attempted coup by a faction of the military, Erdogan on Monday said citizens are demanding the death penalty for coup plotters.

"The people now have the idea, after so many terrorist incidents, that these terrorists should be killed," Erdogan told CNN's Becky Anderson through his translator. "Why should I keep them and feed them in prisons for years to come?"
The President didn't specify whether he'd seek the death penalty for Muslim cleric Fethullah Gulen, who the president says was behind the attempt to overthrow him. He said he'll submit a formal request to the United States within days for Gulen's extradition.

If Turkey reintroduces the death penalty, it won't be joining the European Union, according to EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini.
"Let me be very clear on one thing ... No country can become an EU member state if it introduces [the] death penalty," Mogherini said.

I've not read much, but I've not read anything from a single citizen that's Pro-Erdogan. They've all been supportive of getting rid of him...
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-07-18 16:18:46
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Looks like the RNC has gotten off to a divisive, chaotic start. Shocker.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-18 16:29:17
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Looks like the RNC has gotten off to a divisive, chaotic start. Shocker.

Well, at least they're keeping it to their convention where it belongs. Division and chaos in the nation as a whole is the President's job.
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By Odin.Strummer 2016-07-18 18:17:28
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Poor Sarah Palin
Wasn't invited to come.
Blame the Track record.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2016-07-18 18:36:02
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It wasn't that she wasn't invited. Alaska is just too far away. Trump loves Sarah, but it's a little bit difficult because of, you know, it's a long ways away.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-07-18 18:45:10
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By fonewear 2016-07-18 18:58:57
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Looks like the RNC has gotten off to a divisive, chaotic start. Shocker.

Well, at least they're keeping it to their convention where it belongs. Division and chaos in the nation as a whole is the President's job.

Don't worry Hillary will divide us at the DNC convention !
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By fonewear 2016-07-18 18:59:38
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I personally would like to see Bernie do a Kayne and come up on stage and say I was the best Senator of all time !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-07-18 19:15:33
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Too bad never trump
Steamrolled at the rnc
There's always next time
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By fonewear 2016-07-18 19:16:43
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I think we've had enough poetry for one day. We can all go back to college and study to be an English teacher though !
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-07-18 19:24:29
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I don't think nausi knows what the word steamrolled means.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-07-18 19:28:36
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Wow they have a duck dynasty guy on the stage, how much worse can it get for the GOP, and its only Monday.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2016-07-18 19:31:28
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fonewear said: »
I think we've had enough poetry for one day. We can all go back to college and study to be an English teacher though !
It takes a lot more than that. Take my word on that.
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