Random Politics & Religion #08

And because we're the home of the brave we'll do it with drone strikes controlled from modular units in Utah.

15 dead in Munich. Shopping mall. That's all they're saying.
Just got an alert from my Embassy to cancel trip to Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heHsj8qMKog

With Hillary in charge you can be assured we will be cowards...more then we are now.

Everyone likes to use the definition of "economy" that best fits their argument. I personally don't look at over 400 billion dollars of debt and think "strong economy".

Except 11 billion surplus is not a debt. Catch up to current.

Don't worry when the next big earthquake hits CA will float off into the pacific and be a distant memory.

It's another snap towards me.

He seems to love me today for some reason. Got to have me notice him.

Unless Fone is your sock puppet... Sorry but Nope.

...I KNEW THIS WAS ALL THE MORMONS' FAULT!

Personally, I don't want to see a retaliation attack. I don't want to see an attack period.

The only peaceful solution is for the Islam community to take charge of the situation. We cannot enforce our ideals onto them, we would be playing into their hands.

We shouldn't continue to arm them though. Either physically or rhetorically.

You're confusing debt with deficit. Also, what I'm looking at shows a $17 billion deficit, not a $11 billion surplus.

this looks horrific

I prefer Trump's "bomb the hell out of them" seems to skip all the *** and get right to the point.

How do you propose we do that? They want to annihilate us as well.
1/3rd of the people killed in Nice France were Arab and Muslim.

First step towards peace is to get the damn dialogue and context right! THIS ISN'T ABOUT ISLAM!

...the point is to kill as many, or more, innocents as terrorists?

Or are they inherently terrorists and a threat to the U.S. by nature of their merely being present in an area we want to bomb?

You're missing the point.

The point is that passing the buck and saying "it's not our problem, it's yours, fix it or we'll punish you" is way easier than confronting it ourselves.

Last time I checked we are actually the most active country against ISIS along with Saudi Arabia.

We continue to attack them!

Yet anyone reading these forums would believe a lot of you think we are the enemy!!

Get *** educated on the Middle East because lumping us all together into one group is just going to help perpetuate this ***.

The surrounding Muslim countries are doing A LOT to try and stop ISIS. But it isn't easy when they have American made military weapons!!

Take a look at what is going on in Europe that is what is coming to America.

Take that how you will.

Coming to America? We already have our shootings and mass deaths. Homegrown.

Don't forget Japanese trucks!

I love my Colorado but it's ***compared to the Hilux.

By right to the point you mean getting knee deep in another perpetual war in the ME. We're already bombing the hell out them btw. That's what the current proxy war in Syria is all about.

The ladies from the Paris Fashion Show!?



*** win.

Sounds like someone screwed up his Double Cheeseburger !

Oh my. . . that's pretty darn close to perfect...always been a leg man, breasts are overrated.

Look, there is no diplomatic solution to be made with radicals like ISIS. So, we are left with other options:

1) Kill them all, make them martyrs, and justify the next group of terrorists.
2) Do nothing, watch them make the world burn.
3) Gather all of the world together to fight them. See #1
4) Try to open dialog with them. Be seen as weak and negotiate with terrorists. Justify the next group of terrorists.

Like I said, the only peaceful solution is to have the community that drives those terrorists to change them from the inside. It's not kicking the can down the road, it's solving the problem with the least amount of bloodshed. That also doesn't mean that the US isn't involved in such talks.

I am a big fan of the female form and all that encompasses.

Rather have the war in the ME than fight them at home.

It's a problematic situation no matter how you approach it. I'll take your solution over "bomb the Middle East until it stops causing problems" because that's never really going to work and it will just cause more problems.

But I feel like saying "Well, the Islamic world needs to get their own house in order" is...well, it's not "wrong" in theory, but "the Islamic world" is a false entity. It's not a thing. It's dozens of nations and billions of people that are not one solid unit.

Try getting the Catholics, Methodists, and Evangelists to come up with an agreed-upon set of rules for Christianity and then get every other of the plethora of other Christian denominations worldwide to agree upon exactly what's going on during Communion.

Now multiply that difficulty by a factor of about a thousand.

You can't let these *** keep killing people around the globe, but trying to stop them with brute force -- from without or within -- simply will not work, so what do you do?