SCH Vs. BLM

Best thing ever. SE never releases anything past CoP. Remeber the days when you actually had to sort of know how to play a job and party well together to get xp. Skillchain and magicburst, hmm what are those. Maybe instead we can all hit auto attack and do a WS every 6 hits or so on something with wings for at least 25 levels. Then we all wonder why we are trying to kill a higher end mob and half the people dont know wtf to do. SCH vs BLM its like anythng else if the player sucks the job sucks. And resist by far make the biggest impact in this debate. Today on a simple ZNM SCH Tier 4 nukes for 65 damage on a consistent basis then the BLM 1000+ most of the time. All situations are different show me some pics of a SCH nuking Kirin for 1500+ consistently. Or show me a BLM as main healer as well as a nuker. It's all relevant to the event or situation. LMAO this is alot of rambling and I dont care if you flame me or not becuase in real life none of you really matter one bit or have any impact or major influence on my life. LOL its also a wall of text thats poorly constructed for a reason and that reason is to piss someone off who has no life outside of a fake world created by SE. That or an English major ad instead of reading this you should be busy teaching:)
PS. I love posts about walls of text those are the best.

I hope you realize that 33000/2 isn't 24000.

That's 16k exp per hour.

Not only is that mathematically impossible (considering 250 exp is the cap for exp per mob, and respawn time is 1 minute, 30 seconds, equating to roughly 11,250 exp per hour MAX if you never had to heal and if mobs were never in awkward positions (Of course, this isn't accounting for chains which give roughly a 15% bonus to exp over time)), but even if you DO take BLM to 75, you get stuck with Mount Zhayolm manaburns which are NEVER over 10k per hour.

i am sorry but wtf, u have blm M robs bashing sch's really wtf..... give sch M robe and see what happens really.. SCH doesnt get thos items cuz if they did they would break the game. whiles were at it rdm bears blm cuz u can refresh,

lol all in all 1 major factor stopping sch own blm and that is the lack of gear sch has since its a new job!.

give sch M robe/set,give sch weskit then see how its dmg is.

the best way is for some1 with sch AND blm 75 0 merits on both jobs with the SAME! gaar on the same day nuking

100 nukes of 1 spell and take the average from both jobs and see who does better dmg

all nice saying "what if" but untill blm can aspirGA in dynamis i will lets u guys "rest" since u drain ur mp pool in 3-4 nukes( depending on race)

all in all there are to much lolblms due to burn partys THATS the main reason blms are getting bashed

for events like dynamis "really" sch is the best jobs hands down, 5DD 1brd group just took a beatting with 2 back to back AoE TP move no fear AoE cure 4 cross party bk in2 dark arts bobs ur uncle

before kids start bashing ooo the mnks they need stuns >< no they dont ur ls sucks at killing them, and well sleeping mobs.... have 1 blm/sch in the mix for when u want 2 stacvk sleepga with sleepga ii sorted 3sch/blm 2sch/rdm 1brd will make 5 blm/rdm 1 brd look SO bad its a joke

until sch gets EG+ gear like M robe for itself the subject is stupid

I'd like to read some reasons why you believe SCH is superior to BLM, or vice-versa as I decide which to take to 75.

My current 75s are PLD WHM RDM DRK THF RNG. What do you feel would best compliment these jobs?

Edit: And Korpg damn your avatar, damn damn damn damn.

we have answered his question by answering an unanswerable question. it was pretty obvious this would be a flame war as much as we've seen time and time again x10000.

The answer is out there, its just that you don't accept it.

please quote where i havent accepted an answer for this expept saying they are equal and a pointless debate?

Being biased means you lean towards one choice more than another. DF wasn't biased.

And comparing two jobs... Both based on INT, and you're going to bring in an ELVAAN to compare against? Congrats. You won the Special Olympics. Speaking of bias....

Ok, I will admit that he was an Elvaan and his INT rating is 5 lower to a hume who I should have compared damage with, but this would have added 1-3 more damage to the totals, which is still not going to beat mine. His INT would have probably been 65 if he were hume.

At higher levels, and on higher tier spells, 5 INT will mean more than 1-3 damage.

Can't compare anything without both subjects being 100% similar, you can't presume what 5 INT would do, rather then that you go get an exact match. Just the rules of comparing something, no variables.

Explanation of Factors

Calculation of D

Each magic tier has an inherent mutliplier value M.
Each magic spell has a base value V.
Let dINT be (Caster's INT - Target's INT).
(Banishes and Holy, substitute MND for INT).

For dINT < 0: D = V + dINT (when dINT is a penalty, the tier mult. is always 1)
For dINT > 0, but less than some inflection point: D = V + (dINT * M)
For dINT > 0, but after some inflection point: D = V + (const + (dINT-const) * M / 2))
(above some critical value, adding INT/MND becomes half as effective)
For dINT > 0, but after some cap: D = cap

Elemental Magic: (Caster's INT - Target's INT) * M = dINT

M = 1.0 for all Helix spells.
M = 1.0 for all Ichi and Ni Ninjutsu spells.
M = 1.0 for all tier I/II single-target spells.
M = 1.0 for all -ga spells up to Blizzaga II.
M = 1.5 for all San Ninjutsu spells.
M = 1.5 for all tier III single-target spells.
M = 1.5 for all -ga spells Thundaga II and beyond.
M = 2.0 for all tier IV and Ancient Magic spells.

Divine Magic: (Caster's MND - Target's MND) * M = dINT

M = 0.5 for Banish and Banishga.
M = 1.0 for Holy.
M = 1.0 for Banish II and Banishga II.
M = 1.5 for Banish III.

V values by spell:

Spell Earth Water Wind Fire Blizzard Thunder Dark Light
I 10 16 25 35 46 60 N/A 15
II 78 95 113 133 155 178 N/A 86
III 210 236 265 295 320 345 N/A
IV 381 410 440 472 506 541 N/A N/A
I-ga 56 74 93 120 145 172 N/A 52
II-ga 201 232 266 312 350 392 N/A
III-ga 434 480 527 589 642 697 N/A N/A
AM I 577 630 552 657 526 603 N/A N/A
AM II 710 710 710 710 710 710 N/A N/A
Holy N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Helix 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
Ichi 10 10 10 10 10 10 N/A N/A
Ni 78 78 78 78 78 78 N/A N/A
San 105 105 105 105 105 105 N/A N/A

At higher levels, and on higher tier spells, 5 INT will mean more than 1-3 damage.

And I honestly couldn't give a ***what you think, because you're biased towards BLM from the start. You made that obvious. I think both jobs are great, and people can change jobs when they need something slightly different. The OP just wanted to know which was superior. If you want to take everything into account, then it's SCH because BLM has one thing mastered: Damage. If you want to do both damage and healing, then SCH for the win.

You're still biased.

Exactly... and don't forget native MAB of 44 while even /blm sch can only get 24 and then really if your gonna be that squishy the blm can /sch and get the similar mp efficiency. Then another 10MAB from merits. Sch can do a ***ton more and more mp efficientially but blm will do more dmg faster with fewer spells

What about a graph showing a BLM/SCH using Parsimony?