SCH Vs. BLM

Yes, yes, I know Ghlin.. Unfourtanatly, no one wants a SCH/DRK over RDM/DRK.. understandably though.

no if u wanted 2 really makje things interesting SE should lower ABO-int from 39 to 37..... heheh AoE ABO-int..... not going 2 lie i can see 170+ int lol

Dude, work out of the super-int build into one built more for hnms and resists.

Also I'll add that any mage is free to use meds when you're an extreme situation that require MP. Now that we have satchel I always have a couple of Hi-Elixir and Elixir on me, if the situation require it, I just use one. That's almost +700MP in 10 seconds.

It costs money ? Yeah and ? Some people just invest 180M into a relic. BLM doesn't have to make such investment since their relic sux, so why not spending couple millions into meds ? Even if you use let's say 5 Hi-elixir a week (which is a lot already, I personally use 0~3), that's 100K/week, 5M for a year, let's say 10M until we're all gone to play FF XIV. What's 10M for someone who's already well geared ? Nothing. Not even a gaiters pairs or a novio earring. Not even a salvage body.

Yeah satchel made the game really easy, now any hard fight can be done "easily" with meds.

I'd rather mine, at least it's cute and it got bullets <3 Lily white.

I think whichever one is the most fun to the person playing is the best.

Damn Anti, you're just a walking contradiction aren't you?

The last 2 are not a contradiction. And the first 2 are barely.

Missed this from a while back, what were you missing? I'm curious. It couldn't have been much. Spirit Lantern is the only thing I could imagine not being active.

Nothing contradictory in there. But you're the one telling us how your SCH is awesome and talking about theoretical stuff without even attempting to talk about real in game case. Because an excel chart != what you can do in game. Not to mention that you use someone else work in order to justify your position which is just wrong. As for Dynamis, BLM are needed, but it's not a must have, that's why I don't really care to hear about how your SCH is good in dynamis. Especially since like 90% of players are stuck doing cities and barely dreamland w/ Tav.

Also you forgot to quote :

"PS : my questions are all rhetorical questions." Meaning that I'm not expecting you to answer these since I already know the answer. I perfectly know the situation where "I wish I would be SCH".

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Difference between you and me is that I use my personal experience to make my statement, I'm fairly aware of situations where my BLM is just weak against SCH, and situation where a SCH wouldn't be able to keep up with my BLM. I don't extrapolate theoretical facts without running tests on the field first. I'm not a blind fanboy who will says BLM > * no matter what. And me only having BLM leveled doesn't change that fact.

And don't get me wrong, I also love charts, numbers, calculating stuff, and so on, but for only one purpose : to apply it later in game and see how it goes, if it makes a real difference, if it enables me to do things that I wasn't able to do before (or if it raise my success rate on some fight where I wouldn't win 100%).

Finally you demonstrated your ignorance in yours firsts posts anyway, shouldn't have read you atfer seeing this :



Just prove how narrow minded you are. (and you're being called narrow minded by someone with only BLM leveled).

It's 8AM in here, going to sleep, have fun playing Microsoft Final Excel Fantasy XI.



Being taru ;)

Best thing ever. SE never releases anything past CoP. Remeber the days when you actually had to sort of know how to play a job and party well together to get xp. Skillchain and magicburst, hmm what are those. Maybe instead we can all hit auto attack and do a WS every 6 hits or so on something with wings for at least 25 levels. Then we all wonder why we are trying to kill a higher end mob and half the people dont know wtf to do. SCH vs BLM its like anythng else if the player sucks the job sucks. And resist by far make the biggest impact in this debate. Today on a simple ZNM SCH Tier 4 nukes for 65 damage on a consistent basis then the BLM 1000+ most of the time. All situations are different show me some pics of a SCH nuking Kirin for 1500+ consistently. Or show me a BLM as main healer as well as a nuker. It's all relevant to the event or situation. LMAO this is alot of rambling and I dont care if you flame me or not becuase in real life none of you really matter one bit or have any impact or major influence on my life. LOL its also a wall of text thats poorly constructed for a reason and that reason is to piss someone off who has no life outside of a fake world created by SE. That or an English major ad instead of reading this you should be busy teaching:)
PS. I love posts about walls of text those are the best.

>.> Everyone knows Superman is superior to Batman.

Anyway. The way I see it, if you're asking "Who can deal the most damage with a single nuke, given they are both the same race, have maxed out merits in the best places, have the best possible gear imaginable for their respective jobs, and are casting the same spell on the same monster under the perfect conditions?" chances are it's gonna be the BLM. I haven't read all of the posts here (a lot of them, but not ALL of them), but I doubt you're gonna get someone saying "SCH will outdamage BLM the majority of the time." That would just be silly, if SCH could out-damage, even match the damage, of a BLM the majority of the time, because BLM would almost be completely obsolete. (Not taking AMII into account, because that ***'s just crazy.)

But if you're asking "What is, overall, the best job between the two?" SCH would win hands-down, for the simple fact that they can hold their own when it comes to nuking, but also that they can heal, for Christ's sake.

I think I'm rambling... I'll cut to the chase, before I start contradicting myself. >.>

Basically, it all comes down to how you define "the best". If you're comparing simply BLM against SCH, take away subs and give them the "best" gear for their jobs. Now have them both cast the same nuke on the same monster. Chances are, the BLM is going to out-damage the SCH the majority of the time. In that respect, BLM is "the best". Now have them heal a party...oops! Since we're comparing solely BLM vs SCH, SCH takes the cake there, since they can heal without a sub present. So in that respect, SCH is "the best". Technically, overall, SCH is the "better" job, considering it's more versatile. However, BLM will probably deal more damage per nuke.

I have BLM leveled, and from what I can tell, in my experiences, I generally do more damage than them. (Let me quick play the role of the d-bag SCH reading this: "lol wut gimp SCH do u play with i deal over 90000 damage with fire 3 on nidhogg." Okay, back to my point.) However, SCH heal roughly 8000% more HP than I do. It's a give-take.

If you disagree with anything I've said, I don't really give a ***, so don't think you'll get a rise out of me by "flaming" me. However, I do welcome genuine, preferably well-punctuated and well-thought-out opinions on the matter.

(Again, I said earlier, I didn't read every post, so I don't know if exactly this was addressed, but it's like three in the morning and that's four pages of what I can only assume is "BLM is better" and "No, SCH is better" and "No, BLM is better." and "No, SCH is better.")

Eh, maybe. I'll have to finish my potency merits to see what I do there. I'm only hume, but was pulling 1522 at 74 with everything I have with Bliz IV. A SCH the next day was doing over 1650 without day bonus if I remember correctly, thus what my original comment was based off of.

Just did 1776 as Sch w/ Thunder IV on Pudding. Will post ss later :P

Lock yourself in the basement, and slit your throat.

OH, and have a good day :)

First! Bless you for saying what i was thinking

SS please. I call BS

Sorta, for instance puddings.. BLM

Brass Borer,.. Sch

False, at 60 can get 400 no ring. mid 60's maybe even 500. and respawn is 1m+ sometimes 1.30 sometimes 1.05

Sir... pso xja is level 50's he said 60's, and that camp is mad xp. when i did it i got 33k in 1 hr. used anni band tho, so do math. 24k yup, believe it

My bliz4 no obi does 2200~ to puds.. so ya i think so. put your scythe to use and stop talking blm

I hope you realize that 33000/2 isn't 24000.

That's 16k exp per hour.

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Honestly I've only been 75 SCH for about a month now and have barely had time to work on it since I'm more concerned with crafting and getting my Maat's Cap, but I'll try to get a screenshot of Pudding damage later today.

For reals... 1 month and your spouting this ***.. dude i got 4 years of blm AND lvl 67 sch and i know, KNOW blm wins in the art of damage.

SCH wins in the art of not being a blm.

Nuke! BLM wins

Heal! Sch wins

On that note Sch will have weskit and Mset, THEN b;lm will have weather and full time obi..

OK SO WHO WINS?.... its Obvious, NOT YOU, /welcome the fail cause you reak of it