Ninja Equipment Sets (April 2015)

Here is my Question #1:

TP SET:
ItemSet 337232

Taeon Boots: STR+5 VIT+5 ACC+10 Triple Attack+2%

OR

Loyalist Sabatons: STR+9 ATK+9 Haste+2%


-----------------------Also this are my SETS-----------------------

TP Normal:
ItemSet 337232

Ochu (DMG:+9 STR+4 DEX+6 Ninjutsu Skill +6) (x1)
Otronif Gloves +1 (ACC+4 PDT-4%)
Yokaze Mantle (STR+1 Skillchain Dmg. +1% Weapon Skill DMG+3%)
Taeon Boots: STR+5 VIT+5 ACC+10 Triple Attack+2%
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TP ACC:
ItemSet 337233

Ochu (DMG:+9 STR+4 DEX+6 Ninjutsu Skill +6) (x1)
Floral Gauntlets (ACC+15 R.ACC+15 Triple Attack +3 MDT-4%)
Taeon Boots: STR+5 VIT+5 ACC+10 Triple Attack+2%
Yokaze Mantle (STR+1 Skillchain Dmg. +1% Weapon Skill DMG+3%)
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Blade: HI
ItemSet 337230

Ochu (DMG:+9 STR+4 DEX+6 Ninjutsu Skill +6) (x1)
Lilitu Headpiece (STR+9 DEX+6 Attack+13)
Moonshade Earring (TP Bonus+250 ACC+4)
Samnuha Coat (M.ACC+3 DW+4)
Samnuha Tights (STR+2 DEX+5)
Taeon Boots: STR+5 VIT+5 ACC+10 Triple Attack+2%
Yokaze Mantle (STR+1 Skillchain Dmg. +1% Weapon Skill DMG+3%)
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Blade: Shun
ItemSet 337231

Ochu (DMG:+9 STR+4 DEX+6 Ninjutsu Skill +6) (x1)
Lilitu Headpiece (STR+9 DEX+6 Attack+13)
Moonshade Earring (TP Bonus+250 ACC+4)
Samnuha Coat (M.ACC+3 DW+4)
Leyline Gloves (Fast Cast +3% ACC+15 M.ACC+15 MAB+15)
Samnuha Tights (STR+2 DEX+5)
Taeon Boots: STR+5 VIT+5 ACC+10 Triple Attack+2%
Yokaze Mantle (STR+1 Skillchain Dmg. +1% Weapon Skill DMG+3%)
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Fast Cast:
ItemSet 337236

Anwig Salade (Fast Cast+5%)
Mirke Wardecors (Fast Cast +5%)
Jeweled Collar (Fast Cast +2%)
Leyline Gloves (Fast Cast +3% ACC+15 M.ACC+15 MAB+15)
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Utsusemi:
ItemSet 337237

Anwig Salade (Fast Cast+5%)
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MAB:
ItemSet 337238

Ochu (DMG:+9 STR+4 DEX+6 Ninjutsu Skill +6) (x1)
Samnuha Coat (M.ACC+3 DW+4)
Demon's Ring (MAB+3 Magic Crit hit DMG+2%)
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=====================ARMOR====================================
===================Augments===================================


Ochu (DMG:+9 STR+4 DEX+6 Ninjutsu Skill +6) (x1)
Samnuha Coat (M.ACC+3 DW+4)
Demon's Ring (MAB+3 Magic Crit hit DMG+2%)
Anwig Salade (Fast Cast+5%)
Mirke Wardecors (Fast Cast +5%)
Jeweled Collar (Fast Cast +2%)
Leyline Gloves (Fast Cast +3% ACC+15 M.ACC+15 MAB+15)
Lilitu Headpiece (STR+9 DEX+6 Attack+13)
Moonshade Earring (TP Bonus+250 ACC+4)
Samnuha Tights (STR+2 DEX+5)
Taeon Boots: STR+5 VIT+5 ACC+10 Triple Attack+2%
Floral Gauntlets (ACC+15 R.ACC+15 Triple Attack +3 MDT-4%)
Otronif Gloves +1 (ACC+4 PDT-4%)
Yokaze Mantle (STR+1 Skillchain Dmg. +1% Weapon Skill DMG+3%)
Loyalist Sabatons: STR+9 ATK+9 Haste+2%


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I do know I need better Augments on a Few pieces, but please try to help me out so I can work with what I got currently while still farming for new Augments and Armor

************************Mainly Want****************************


Ochu (DMG:+15 STR+10 DEX+10 Ninjutsu Skill +10) (x2)
Samnuha Coat (M.ACC+15 DW+5 FC+5% MAB+15)
Samnuha Tights (STR+10 DEX+10 DA+3 TA+3)
Lilitu Headpiece (STR+10 DEX+10 Attack+15 WS DMG+3%)
Loyalist Sabatons: STR+10 ATK+13 Haste+3% PDT-5%
Yokaze Mantle (STR+x DEX+x AGI+x Skillchain Dmg. +x% WS DMG+3%)


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If anybody got any SETS they wish to share, please do, I am Open to Suggestions too ^^

Thank you for the help Everyone!

one more Question

NIN AF FEET+1 (119) or Relic FEET+1 (119) for nuking ?

and HEAD Relic +1 (119) or AF +1 (119)

Which be best ?

MACC+ MAB+ OR Ninjutsu Skill +

Sorry forgot to ask that ><

Yeah I have Lilitu, perfect augs and w/ gear I posted ( used NQ in spread ), Gavialis > Lilitu by 350pts w/ day. Lost by 150+pts w/o day. I tried finding what's best NQ cuz I don't have any HQ plans atm. HQ just superior so.... post them instead here.

That's a nice MB, I'd be iterested in having a look at your sets, or a quick run through (Also, If you had say been using Amachu to tank so you can use Innin wouldn't that MB have been 30% higher?);

I'm still gearing other area's atm - the biggest area being sorting thro my inv/warderobe to create space as this is the 4th job I've decided to gear up, and it take's up more gear then COR (I think) but the good thing is I can share certain basic's gear's like Qaaxo PDT set, Taeon MAB for Nukes & Taeon MACC for enfeeb's which bring's me to:

How do you macro in you MD/MAB gear for :San nukes due to the timing of them, I use normal macro's so I only have <wait 1 >'s and above, also the JP categories I've focused on first is Ninjitsu casting time and Yonn Evasion +, Ninjii

Nuking:

Aput Mantle +1 V.S. Tore Cape ?

Mephitas's Ring +1 V.S. Fenrir Ring +1

/equip <precast gear>
/magic "Elemental Ninjutsu: San" <t>
/wait 1
/equip <nuking Gear>
/wait 1* (I recommend 2 seconds or more if you suffer from lag)
/equip <Melee gear>

I don't really know which is best, But I think think Shiva Ring +1 and Toro Cape would be better, because of INT.
But between Mephita's Ring VS Fenrir Ring +1, Fenrir +1 would be superior.

Updated the Ochu Set.

TP Set:
Iga < Bleating
Abnoba < Adhemar
w/ or w/o Innin up they lose 100%

Alrdy posted best possible TP Set, Blade:Hi, Blade:Shun and Max Acc sets.
Also mentioned Floestone as well > Jukukik ><

Only thing that changes using Izuna over Nagi is the TP neck and earrings.

Is there a readily available updated spreadsheet for NIN?

I deleted that folder long ago when I stopped and now that I'm playing again, I would like to check the math on all of this.

This includes fixes on gear, corsair rolls, relic dmg procs, etc.

If anyone has a solid updated spreadsheet please link to it here.

Almost all, if not all, new gear NQ and HQ and w/ perfect augs. Unfortunately tho I don't have the rest of what of ya requested.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/elz6ld9yei18f6j/DPS%20Calculator%20-%20Ninja.ods?dl=0
For whatever reason, I dont have a clue, Set DPS is always off by like 1k+. Just change target to "Trivial" > "Gear" > target "DC Dynamis" > "Gear" > then can bring target bk to Tojil or w/e and Set DPS fixed......

I can't open the ODS with Excel, which is funny because the original spreadsheets were all xlsx's... when did they get changed to ODS?

I wouldn't immediately think they would operate in the same way having been converted to ODS's.

I may just download the old 2014 version or check Ores's latest version if I can get ahold of him and go from there.

Tbh man. You know me, I'm pc handicapped but.... I open it w/ Libre Office, which is free, and it's direct DL from Motenten google.docs I think and upgraded w/ new gear and WS mods. Then saved. Nothing more that I'm aware of atleast. Assuming Libre converted to ODS on it's own as I saved.

Ah, okay. I believe there were still issues in that version that he last updated in 2014. Only reason I asked for a new one. Hehehe.

I have Orestes's direct line... somewhere here. I'll see if I can snag his latest as a way to start fresh and host one on my own.

Thank you though for the link!

Since the new update brought in 119 Sky gear and new merit fights, its safe to assume that the haidate and kote are the BIS for the Shun/Metsu and Hi respectively? Is there anything from either Escha zone or from anyplace else to replace Taeon boots? I've had terrible luck in getting the perfect augments I wanted to get, so I went with Naga kyahan Path A.

Adhemar Gamashes (Path B) beats Taeon boots for WSing and TPing. For the maximum WS damage then Path A. The new sky god gear look decent, those Kotes look like they beat Ryuo Tekkos but I'm not 100% sure on that. The Haidate doesn't look like they would beat max Samnuha.

— Updated —
http://www.ffxiah.com/new-items/2015-09-16
Spreadsheet xlsx
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8urlzslwfs76d7/DPS%20Calculator%20-%20Ninja.xlsx?dl=0

ItemSet 338237

ItemSet 338238

Forgot to add Cessance Earring. I'll add after work. Curious if it's better than Tripudio/Telos.

Just wondering since I am a 119 Kannagi user, will all the sets posted on page 1/last page still be BiS for me? Any info appreicated

How do af3 gloves compare to leyline for nukes?

These sets are mainly if you have caped haste (marches/haste/etc...) for all weapons. Then switching to DW set once those buffs drop.
I personally don't nuke on nin but I would imagine the +30 MAB on Leyline will do a lot better than Hattori Tekko, you would probably switch Leyline with Hattori when you have Futae up.

Does anyone have a link to a decent, not too complicated nin lua that I can basically plus my gear into and use?

I'm too dumb to write my own, and I don't understand half of the things one can do to customize it. :(

Thanks in advance ^^

Orestes has an awesome lua. I find it to be rather straight forward (others may not). Definitely skim through it beforehand and see what you think.

Anybody has updated sets for Ninjutsu magic?
I'm kinda stuck @november 2014 (vagary patch).
Aside from weapons I haven't really checked if there's some new awesome item for Ninja nuking (Escha stuff, abj stuff, SR stuff etc)

Once again, aside from weapons. Pretty easy to spot the good ones.
Think Ochu x2 is the best in that regard? Malevolence arguably better but it has no Magic Burst bonus.

Trying to answer myself here, looking for additional input

• Head= Hachiya Hatsuburi +1, Path D Ryuo (+1)
  Hachihya +1 alternative for pure macc, but it's more a debuff type of piece, not nuking)
  

• Neck= New Warders neck, Voltsurge Torque, Deviant Necklace
  Deviant is the winner here. Warders best for acc, Voltsurge inventory+1 option if you already have one and use it for precast.
  

• Body= Samnuha Coat, Gyve Coat, Mekosuchinae
  Gyve probably wins here, not just for the additional mab but for the +19 INT as well. Samnuha has magic burst bonus though. Mekosuchinae sucks but if you don't have anything else it's better than nothing (macc+INT)
  

• Hands= Hattori Tekko +1, Leyline Gloves
  Hattori Wins during Futae, but outside of that who's gonna win between them and perf aug Leyline? Probably Leyline.
  

• Rings= Acumen Ring, Metamorph Ring +1, Fenrir Ring +1, Shiva Ring +1.
  Not sure what's gonna be best here. Shiva+1 x2?
  

• Back= Toro Cape, Argochampsa Cape, Yokaze Mantle. Think Toro wins here, +10 INT should more than compensate the lack of 2 mab.
  

• Waist= Eschan Stone.
  Can't think of much else coming close to this.
  

• Legs= Gyve legs, Schneddick +1, Rawhide Trowsers?
  Can't think of many other options. Gyve gonna win of course.
  

• Feet= Adhemar Feet (+1), Qaaxo Leggings, Mochizuki+1. Hachiya +1.
  Adhemar +1 probably wins, but Hachiya+1 should be an unexpected second best. Less mab, but +INT and some macc. Mochizuki just offers macc (a lot), Qaaxo offers a nice +18 mab but no INT, even NQ Adhemar is better.
  

• Weapons= Ochu, Malevolence, Vampirism, Eosuchus Club, Chidori
  Ochux2 is the best imho because of the magic burst aug. Perf Malevolence is pretty nice too, Vampirism is right after it I guess?

Didn't list Taeon but of course you can augment it with Mab+20, Macc/Mab+15, then INT+10

How much Acc does NIN need to DD SR?

I'm around 985 unbuffed in current acc set. Trying to get a few more pieces(UNM:acc Ring, UNM:acc cape, neck) but I don't see it going much higher?

I did SR as nin with a dnc. we needed about 1350 buffed acc

So did any of the new hands out do the abj hands?

I have Taeon Gloves with MAB+20 on (total MAB+27 MACC+7) no INT as I use them for COR ws, but I presume those are better then Hattori Tekko +1? I was reading over 'Increases Ninjustsu Dmg' is basically just 'MAB', not a seperate *DMG multiplier to how something like Skillchain Bonus works?

I was reading over BG's guide on Ninjutsu for making sure Debuff's hit the spot. They seem to talk about 'Ninjutsu Skill+' gear as being the gear you ideally want. No real mention about Macc+, so I wondered what the known ratio is and whether it would be better using an item like 'Ninjustsu Torque' over a higher MACC+ piece or even Deviant's 10% MAB.

Lastly, can Nin Nuke's Magical Crit? I would obviously guess 'yes' as the other way's you increase magic dmg fall in like with how say a Blm would increase low tier Nuke DMG.

Another lastly, but is it worth just investing T2 Merit point's in 1light based Nuke and one Dark based Nuke on the San side for Magic Bursting or is it still better to have all 6?

I DW (mostly) the Aizushintogo with a Raicho+1, otherwise the Taikogane if Acc isn't an issue (I don't have access to SR yet), but am I right in thinking that if Acc isn't an issue (which for anything I'm solo-ing it usually isn't tbf) that Taikogane is a very good Katana? Also does Augmented Crit+4% carry over to mainhain or is it worth swapping to something like STP (seem to have STP everywhere right now when it used to be a pain to get). Is one of the other Augment's better anyway?

I took Nin for a quick spin and solo using a tank and Innin I was tearing thro the worm's nearly as fast as I do on SAM (I can't Fudo > Fudo = Next on every worm like you can on SAM). The most important Job point Category I have taken to 20 first is the 20% off Ninjustsu casting time. Other's I have been spreading between Innin, Yonin, and Ninjustsu Acc.

Third finally, could someone quickly post how much DW in armor I need to cap att delay with Capped Magic Haste, just Haste II, and a fairly common one is Haste II and Joachim's March. I think I'm using a little to much in my TP setup's but when I teak my /equipset's for a fight I find it annoying when Joachim uses another song over March due to my HP being low at the time he sang or w/e so If 19% DW is enough with just Haste 2 I might just leave Suppa in there (weapon + earring + waist + Taeon feet = 19%), if I can leave AF2 Body out I would prefer to.

I really think we lucked out with our Job gifts (probably due to everyone saying Nin was in the worst state since its release in the early Adoulin day's I don't know,; I'm still happy for people to carry on thinking that because the job seems very well rounded to me, quite the opposite of what people think) but the ATT & ACC gift's are higher then Monk and Sam's, then we also make full use out of pretty much every gift (MAB, MACC+) the only gift I don't need is +Def but hey I'll take it anyway as its free. Getting high gifts of MACC & MAB then getting Ninjutsu skill gift's is great, and Increasing Daken by 14% is great. The only rip off (aside from Job point's in Mijin Dmg) looks like the chance of countering when parrying. If parry rate is capped (I don't know if we tend to have it capped fighting NM's or not) you end up with a 4% Counter rate before the Acc check once you have 20 JP's in 'Chance of countering when Parrying an attack'.