Endeavoring To Awaken --A Guide To Rune Fencer

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By Celther 2018-02-21 18:23:00
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Biggest issue I see with that Wild Carrot set, is you'd have to drop down to like 23-2400hp to get a decent cure out of it. seems a little counter-productive
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-02-21 18:56:42
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Added a few example pieces to the run_equip.txt if you wanted to add your own gear. It also reminds me I need to add ayanmo set bonuses.
Added set bonus to the few ayanmo pieces and gift atk/acc
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By afheal 2018-02-22 14:06:00
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What's a good multi-step skillchain for lionheart?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-02-22 14:43:00
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afheal said: »
What's a good multi-step skillchain for lionheart?

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By clearlyamule 2018-02-22 14:55:09
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To go with that Lionheart Run kind of gets boned in the ws selection department. The only level 2 property they have access to is fragmentation and with no Liquefaction ws to make fusion they literally can't self multi-step into a lvl 3/4. If had Scourge could do some fun things but alas
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-02-22 16:44:34
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clearlyamule said: »
To go with that Lionheart Run kind of gets boned in the ws selection department. The only level 2 property they have access to is fragmentation and with no Liquefaction ws to make fusion they literally can't self multi-step into a lvl 3/4. If had Scourge could do some fun things but alas

If you want to get all fancy, could switch to sword for Liquefaction, then switch back to gsword the rest of the way:

Red Lotus Blade > Sickle Moon > Resolution > Dimidiation/Resolution
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By clearlyamule 2018-02-22 17:13:22
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True but doing weapon swaps to skillchain is pretty gross and bleh. Slight addendum forgot groundstrike is frag/distortion not that it helps with single weapon but yeah there is that.

But if you did want to do that probably be better using Gaxe and doing Resolution -> ground strike -> upheaval-> reso ->reso

Note can replace the first and/or last reso dimidiation if you like. Can even put a Requiescat in front of all that! Though timing with weapon switches and such might be hard
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By afheal 2018-02-22 17:34:40
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
afheal said: »
What's a good multi-step skillchain for lionheart?

Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution

Lol thanks
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-02-23 01:23:54
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On an unrelated note of sorts I hit a 73k Resolution on the Glassy Gorger last night, that was pretty lulzy. I'm using full Ambuskadi+2 for Reso, which feels wrong, but not sure if there's better. Maybe some relic+3?
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By Afania 2018-02-23 03:16:29
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clearlyamule said: »
True but doing weapon swaps to skillchain is pretty gross and bleh. Slight addendum forgot groundstrike is frag/distortion not that it helps with single weapon but yeah there is that.

But if you did want to do that probably be better using Gaxe and doing Resolution -> ground strike -> upheaval-> reso ->reso

Note can replace the first and/or last reso dimidiation if you like. Can even put a Requiescat in front of all that! Though timing with weapon switches and such might be hard

It isn't if you macro them with the rest of the set instead of manually switch them in equip menu. For some jobs and some weapon, weapon swap for max SC damage is kinda necessary sometimes.
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By Asura.Hashtag 2018-02-23 06:52:31
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
afheal said: »
What's a good multi-step skillchain for lionheart?

Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution -Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution - Resolution

i like this
edit: i think if u used a resolution between resolution and resolution it might do a bit more damage
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By Asura.Chiaia 2018-02-23 07:09:00
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Asura.Hashtag said: »
i like this
edit: i think if u used a resolution between resolution and resolution it might do a bit more damage
Only if you stop doing the drugs on stream.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-02-23 08:58:09
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
On an unrelated note of sorts I hit a 73k Resolution on the Glassy Gorger last night, that was pretty lulzy. I'm using full Ambuskadi+2 for Reso, which feels wrong, but not sure if there's better. Maybe some relic+3?

You can push significantly higher STR with sprinkled in attack and accuracy with a few Lustratio +1 pieces. Head + Feet primarily. Not sure how good hands are but those look good, too.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-23 10:31:35
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When you parry multiple hits of a mob TP move, do you get multiple procs on Turms Mittens and Tactical Parry?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-02-23 15:37:23
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
On an unrelated note of sorts I hit a 73k Resolution on the Glassy Gorger last night, that was pretty lulzy. I'm using full Ambuskadi+2 for Reso, which feels wrong, but not sure if there's better. Maybe some relic+3?

You can push significantly higher STR with sprinkled in attack and accuracy with a few Lustratio +1 pieces. Head + Feet primarily. Not sure how good hands are but those look good, too.

Had written off Lustratio head because it doesn't work for THF these days, but that looks really good, guess I'll get to those next time I'm on. Thanks.

Edit: Hands looks like a small upgrade in STR but getting a full set replacement risks losing too much attack. Body also looks like a decent replacement but again too many of these swaps start costing attack, so will have to think over what's worth it.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-02-23 16:07:46
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I'm not that great with numbers + gear, I do a lot of eyeballing. So I use adhemar body+1 path B for reso/tp. I don't have hands, feet, or cap (waiting on them to drop a bit), but I believe you can get by with STR/TA pieces probably. Wont get as high as Lust+1, that's for sure. Cap/Feet by far is the best items to get it looks like, STRwise.

Unrelated: I just realized One or All was modified by HP. How in the hell did I not know this? Just made an HP set that puts me close to 3500HP for OFA trigger.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-02-23 18:19:14
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Head, body, and feet are the only pieces worth it if you can cap acc with them at least. Path A has a good amount of attack and body comes with some acc as well.

This is probably the "best" set:

ItemSet 356970
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-02-23 19:42:11
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Being in 3/5 Lustratio would kinda scare me. If you get hit with anything during that swap it could hurt pretty badly.
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By Asura.Byrne 2018-02-23 20:32:25
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Head, body, and feet are the only pieces worth it if you can cap acc with them at least. Path A has a good amount of attack and body comes with some acc as well.

This is probably the "best" set:

ItemSet 356970

Is that accounting for STR 1510/TA 4 Herc hands? because that would be more STR and more TA.

Also vs P(B) Bonnet/Body and 15 STR/TA herc boots, you're trading 14 triple attack for 12 STR. I mean maybe you're right, but that doesn't seem like it would win when you're only gaining about 3% of your STR, and 2 WSD on a multistrike fTP transferrable WS.

Idk, I'm not an expert on it, but it doesn't seem right?


Nvm, wasn't tracking how good Lust's augments were.
*edit* it would however, be unfortunately inaccurate. Body has Acc, but no DEX, others have DEX, but no ACC :/
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-02-23 21:01:13
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I don't think you can get both 15str + 4ta. taupe is 15str, but 3 ta, fern is 4ta, but 10 str. Unless DM aug?
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By Asura.Byrne 2018-02-23 21:02:43
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I don't think you can get both 15str + 4ta. taupe is 15str, but 3 ta, fern is 4ta, but 10 str. Unless DM aug?

Interesting, so yeah 10 I suppose. It would be a loss of I think 2 STR for 2 TA?

Or would it be better to do Taupe 15 STR/3 TA for 3~4 more STR and one more TA? :/
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-02-23 21:16:39
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Adhemar B hands vs Herc hands with 10 STR and 4 TA (capped acc/atk):
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Simulated Average: lionheart 5859.07  (WS :  29187.63 )
AA Percent:  0.2 WS Percent:  0.8

Three Minute Sims.: lionheart

     6150.37  (WS :  29937.07 )
     5882.12  (WS :  28800.07 )
     6045.43  (WS :  29704.73 )
     5880.24  (WS :  30524.0 )
     5594.95  (WS :  27458.28 )
     6037.09  (WS :  29351.7 )
     6140.9  (WS :  28797.1 )
     5701.07  (WS :  29094.54 )
     6131.45  (WS :  29793.13 )
     5465.92  (WS :  28161.61 )

Simulated Average: lionheart 5764.76  (WS :  28902.32 )
AA Percent:  0.2 WS Percent:  0.8

Three Minute Sims.: lionheart

     6145.16  (WS :  28557.1 )
     6189.97  (WS :  28730.42 )
     6200.71  (WS :  31043.76 )
     6362.07  (WS :  30107.48 )
     5541.19  (WS :  29420.41 )
     5988.61  (WS :  29767.69 )
     5901.62  (WS :  28994.62 )
     5557.16  (WS :  29087.18 )
     5668.32  (WS :  28992.43 )
     6124.57  (WS :  29326.77 )



Same but now with +7 XI SAM roll (no job bonus):
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Simulated Average: lionheart 7152.97  (WS :  30797.87 )
AA Percent:  0.15 WS Percent:  0.85

Three Minute Sims.: lionheart

     7276.19  (WS :  30699.32 )
     6872.52  (WS :  29478.03 )
     7406.55  (WS :  31399.97 )
     7215.52  (WS :  31200.94 )
     7290.32  (WS :  31153.11 )
     7472.31  (WS :  30833.29 )
     7332.83  (WS :  31200.92 )
     7063.93  (WS :  32111.71 )
     7259.5  (WS :  31648.97 )
     7389.48  (WS :  31769.36 )

Simulated Average: lionheart 7186.74  (WS :  30759.91 )
AA Percent:  0.15 WS Percent:  0.85

Three Minute Sims.: lionheart

     6999.86  (WS :  29847.51 )
     7476.92  (WS :  31525.19 )
     7033.19  (WS :  30969.63 )
     7614.55  (WS :  31438.76 )
     7048.59  (WS :  30661.47 )
     7278.68  (WS :  31041.27 )
     7409.14  (WS :  31429.62 )
     7286.18  (WS :  30536.46 )
     6801.75  (WS :  29765.0 )
     7370.86  (WS :  30202.37 )



Basically equal at that point, but Adhemar B being better otherwise, and not requiring RNG augments.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-02-23 22:41:46
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Also how about Seething Bomblet +1 vs Knobkierrie?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-02-23 22:44:27
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pretty much equal, i just prefer knob since it's better if attack is uncapped and carry for dimi anyways
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-02-23 22:52:16
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Splitting hairs. Close your eyes and equip either, very hard to judge.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-25 17:52:56
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What's everyone's opinions on meriting Rune Enchantment vs Phlug? From my experience, if you're using enough runes on an element for that +5% extra resistance per Rune to be significant, you're generally resisting a lot of that element's enfeebles manually anyway (and you'd be resisting even more with 10-30 bonus resistance), making Phlug less useful. But then, the only "hard" thing I've tanked so far are Fii Pexu and Schah, and stuff like Albumen might have a capped land rate on enfeebles even when you're properly runed and barspelled up for all I know.

What is the general opinion?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-02-25 18:06:21
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I use rune enhancement over pflug, but pretty sure most of the people don't.
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-02-25 18:22:44
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I sometimes Pflug in an element different from what I idle in, so I prefer those merits.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-25 18:29:53
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If you're not idling in it, Pflug doesn't do much though. At 1 rune, it's not even 20% with merits and boots +3 (and is still 14% with no merits).

It's too bad Epeolatry didn't make Pflug AoE instead of Liement.
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-02-25 18:40:08
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Who said anything about only using 1 rune with it?
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