IiPunch - Monk Guide

Shijin and Asuran replicate ftp, higher f t p across the board, increased plague strength for shijin, better/higher mods on asuran. would be fantastic.

Wow that's unexpected...
Which do you think will be the candidate Weapon Skills?
Shijin Spiral is totally gonna be one.
Others?
I hope it's not Victory Smite because I'm afraid that could be too much? I mean not that I'd complain but still...
Asuran Fists I dunno, even with replicating FTP I doubt it would be worth it. Maybe with the Ambu weapon but not without.
Raging Fists though, now that would be hot :Q__ _

As for new traits I hope they're gonna add one more tier of HP+. Useless I know, but it would make me happy <3


...glad to find out they're not fixing Boost though. Sigh :(

With current ftp values, replicating ftp would do absolutely nothing for asuran and extremely little for shijin. I really hope the adjustment is gonna be ftp carrying over to additional hits for VS. That would be awesome. Broken though? I don’t think you could call that broken when things like DRK spamming TC exist.

I mean it's not like I wouldn't welcome FTP carrying on Vsmite, it's just that I'm afraid it would be a bit too powerful, given how well Vsmite already works when Impetus is up.

I'm just afraid that if they do that, they will then be forced to nerf something else to compensate, and at that point I'd rather them boost some WS other than Vsmite honestly.

Not sure on which though, I called Raging Fists previously but looking again at the FTP values that would be a "bit" broken as well lol
There is no FTP carrying WS that has a base FTP higher than 2,5.
With Raging Fists, at 3k TP, we'd be talking about 9 FTP carrying across all hits.
LULZ
Would be fun to see though xD

Victory Smite to copy FTP, make it a clone of CDC.
Shijin Spiral to copy FTP and to have it's Plague buffed.
Dragon and Tornado Kick to copy as well.

Epic win.

They could do what they did to smn bps, lower the ftp and make it carry over to other hits.

Now I'm getting iffy about Vere, cause this could put Godhands back on top, eh?

Nothing to be iffy about until it drops. It could be literally anything.

Yeah, but Vere is still very much a WiP, that I was going to knock out between now and patch day, lol.

Being that it's "Adjust certain hand-to-hand weaponskills" I really only see them doing asuran and shijin.... maybe ascetics. FH too plz.

I wouldn't touch Vsmite HF RF TK much if at all. Maybe something to boost(lol) the low end without affecting the top end. Higher f t p at the 1k anchor. Maybe partially revert the crit nerf. 1k crit rate could come back up.

Victory Smite
15% / 30% / 60% Pre-nerf
　↓
10% / 25% / 45%

I don’t know, I could be optimistic, but I don’t see them finally aknowledge that mnk has WS numbers problems only to rise subpar WSs to the level of the job’s currently best WSs. It makes a lot more sense to rise the damage of the good WSs to make them competitive with other DDs.

Monk isn't supposed to be competitive with 80k torcleavers. If they make the ws that good there is no reason to play any other job. At least pretend theres some balance.

A big no to monkwagon v2.0

People have problem understanding that for MNK to have competitive dps with other DDs it needs to have LOWER ws damage than other dds. Even Caladbolg DRK is nowhere near Impetus monk white damage. I dont understand whats so hard to understand here. That be8ng said there is so much crap *** circle around this forum about ws numbers...

DRK spaming 60k torcleavers? 60k is torcleaver damage at 3k tp. Its like 40k top at 1000tp. So how exactly you spam 60k torcleavers? You get war to give you warcry and smn for tp bonus and you hold tp to 1500?

Vsmite is also not being close to broken with Impetus. Sure you can get a lucky 60k one, but avg is something around 36k and you cant really boost it for zergs in controlled way, because Impetus is random.

Its old as *** but people keep taking some random spikes for sone WSs and make whole discussions around it. Just stop please..

They gonna make adjustments to One Inch Punch and all of you will take the sad frog home.

They will make Godhands significantly better for impetus down and you will need to get both to r15 :)

I think there will be some change to Shinjin Spiral because of it being (apparently) crap and it's link to Godhands.

But then, it never made any sense to me that REMAs were linked to crappy WS in many cases. Although the point about white dmg on MNK is a good one.

R15 Glanz... yessss.... YESSSSSSSSSSSS

Same. Buff RF! But please for the love of god don’t touch VS I already don’t want to make that ugly weapon.

Imo mnk damage is almost balanced but only during Impetus. MNK dps during Impetus is around 10k, but it drops drastically outisde of Impetus. Boosting Vsmite slightly is ok, but what is needed the most is boosting WS damage for WSs you use with Impetus down and by that I mostly mean ws damage at low tp, because Raging Fists and Tornado can do really good damage but only at very high tp levels and monk cant use TP bonus offhand or ranged.

Atleast we have tall Subtle Blow!

Very interesting update. I'm not entirely sure they are actually improving any particular WS, but rather, adding a new job trait that will apparently power up ALL hand to hand weapon skills. They mentioned that "PUP would be able to reap some of the benefits", which might indicate a "Smite" tiered job trait where Monk gets the highest value (my guess 5) and pup gets a lower value, granting Monk a higher WS boost favorably across the board.

Nothing about their update notes at the bottom Grid says "adjust specific weapon skill calculation or damage" etc, as they have in the past when they were specifically adjusting weapon skills. so I think we can probably rule out an individual fix to things like Asura or shijin, which might mean the rema weapon rankings may not actually change if they make everything stronger. You'll just have a much better spharai/godhands/vere etc

They've never been particularly consistant, so I wouldn't rule out individual changes. That's still a very astute observation though, and a general trait or across the board upgrade would be very nice considering how MNK's self SCs are set up.

I was already pretty happy with MNK, as most people are aware, so any sort of improvement will be much appreciated.

One inch punch is going to be way too powerful.

The box says they're adjusting "certain" H2H weaponskills. That automstically means they're adjusting individual ones.

Plus, if it was just traits, they'd leave that in the MNK and PUP boxes, instead of both including a separate WS box and leaving the PUP box out.

Nah, I'm here for monkwagon v2.0 just to see the reactions from all of the bandwagon SAM/DRK/WAR.

I think it'd be funny if MNK and DRG were new meta xD