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By SimonSes 2019-05-22 02:20:39
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First of all why people assume its easy to cap crit with impetus up? Assuming some tp overflow you have 13% on ws, 10% base and 50% max from Impetus. Thats only 73 and its assuming max impetus. You still need 27%. Hands are 5%, moonshade is 3%, legs and cape are 18%. This is almost 100%. Now assumption that you have max impetus all the time is silly too, so I like to treat any potential ddex as buffer. Relic +3 legs are king for harder stuff because they have better accuracy, attack and ddex (21 dex on legs is big, because this slot usually has no dex at all and I think people forget about that) on top of crit rate.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-05-22 02:24:28
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They assume cap attack and cap acc on literally everything. Why wouldn't they assume capped crit rate too.

See you forgot that they are rotating 3 rostam cors and assume crooked rogue's. And there is a warrior doing warcry bloodrage and stardiver. and cor is wearing enforcer's harness with armageddon afterglow. and ramuh's favor.
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By Asura.Topace 2019-05-22 05:45:52
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Isn’t that the only way to play MNK?
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By Cerberus.Hokuten 2019-05-22 08:52:32
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I've been noticing my impetus stacks dropping way more frequently than they should be while parsing 99% accuracy. Does anyone know if Impetus will reset if you WS on fodder mob, but it dies before all hits land?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-22 09:28:04
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Impetus resetting. Stupid logic. I still don't know why that's a thing
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-22 10:12:41
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Kyniker said: »
Anyway, I can't find "Byrth's sets" and I was wondering if the Godhands sets for both Impetus and VS were different to the ones for Vere

Lakshmi.Buukki said: »

Link to his stuff, which is what I use for most part, give or take a few pieces here and there

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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0diasa035o5ahc/DPS%20Calculator%20-%20Mnk%20August2017.xlsx?dl=0

Might have some outdated stuff, but can use it as a reference point to check sets.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-05-22 10:25:25
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Cerberus.Hokuten said: »
I've been noticing my impetus stacks dropping way more frequently than they should be while parsing 99% accuracy. Does anyone know if Impetus will reset if you WS on fodder mob, but it dies before all hits land?
99% isn't 100%.
99,999999% wouldn't be 100% either.
As long as it's not 100% you will still eventually incur on a miss, and just a single one is enough to completely reset all the stacks you've built so far.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-22 10:38:25
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Asura.Sechs said: »
99,999999% wouldn't be 100% either

its a lot more than 100% >_>
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-05-22 10:40:17
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wut?
watcha smokin Buukki D:
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By Nariont 2019-05-22 10:56:30
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99 million% is higher than 100, now if that were 99.9999 etc, maybe less than 100 :p
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2019-05-22 11:20:03
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
99,999999% wouldn't be 100% either

its a lot more than 100% >_>

Europeans are crazy and swap the use of , and .
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By SimonSes 2019-05-22 13:28:11
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Bismarck.Nyaarun said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
99,999999% wouldn't be 100% either

its a lot more than 100% >_>

Europeans are crazy and swap the use of , and .

Not only Europeans. Also using "," or "." to separate groups like thousands is wrong everywhere. You should write one hundred thousands like this 100 000 not like this 100.000 or like this 100,000
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2019-05-22 13:41:15
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
They assume cap attack and cap acc on literally everything. Why wouldn't they assume capped crit rate too.

See you forgot that they are rotating 3 rostam cors and assume crooked rogue's. And there is a warrior doing warcry bloodrage and stardiver. and cor is wearing enforcer's harness with armageddon afterglow. and ramuh's favor.

Maybe in your garbage Asura random shout parties... I'm guessing your problem is just that you're playing with people who suck, because obviously any serious group would also have Bolster DEX bubbles, 2x DEX Etudes, and Feather Step lv10.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-05-22 13:43:24
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Awe ***I forgot feather step. /facepalm
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By SimonSes 2019-05-22 13:50:49
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Awe ***I forgot feather step. /facepalm

Don't worry, people always forget about DNCs.
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By Cerberus.Hokuten 2019-05-22 20:37:21
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Asura.Sechs said: »
99% isn't 100%.
99,999999% wouldn't be 100% either.
As long as it's not 100% you will still eventually incur on a miss, and just a single one is enough to completely reset all the stacks you've built so far.

I'm asking about impetus resetting on WS because it seems to happen every time I kill a fodder with VS and it dies before all hits can land. Didn't know if anyone could confirm. I know how 99% math works...this isn't just missing every once in awhile.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-05-22 21:09:12
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It does not reset on ws, unless one of the hits of that ws miss

Not certain, but i don't think it resets if you kill something before all hits of said ws land
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By Asura.Owns 2019-05-23 00:24:33
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Just curious, is there an updated gear/tier list for Mnk sets? First page only shows best as of 2015/16. Sorry if this has been asked already, just coming back and wanted to spruce up my favorite job.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2019-05-23 00:43:38
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Asura.Owns said: »
Just curious, is there an updated gear/tier list for Mnk sets? First page only shows best as of 2015/16. Sorry if this has been asked already, just coming back and wanted to spruce up my favorite job.
The date wasn't changed but they appear to have been updated to 2019 content.
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By SimonSes 2019-05-23 02:57:34
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Cerberus.Hokuten said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
99% isn't 100%.
99,999999% wouldn't be 100% either.
As long as it's not 100% you will still eventually incur on a miss, and just a single one is enough to completely reset all the stacks you've built so far.

I'm asking about impetus resetting on WS because it seems to happen every time I kill a fodder with VS and it dies before all hits can land. Didn't know if anyone could confirm. I know how 99% math works...this isn't just missing every once in awhile.

Why asking when testing that takes few minutes top in game and you will know for sure. Go fight mobs outside of starting cities and WS them, check if you have bonus still. Done.
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By Cronnus 2019-05-23 22:59:16
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I know neck isn't +2, but wanted to see if there was any insight to Victory smite from the community.

ItemSet 366839

Ryuo gloves path A (Str 12, dex 12, acc 20)
Ryuo feet path D (Str 12, Att 25, Crit hit 4%)
Adhemar path B (Str 12, Dex 12, Att 20)

should I change feet to Kendatsuba and gloves to Anchor. Gloves +3? Figured between the both I got another attack +20. And I still see great numbers. Just didn't know if someone knew something better.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-23 23:29:20
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Impetus up Smite should be using Bhikku Cyclas +1 for the augment bonus. Impetus down should be anchorite cyclas +3
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By Cronnus 2019-05-23 23:38:57
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Impetus up Smite should be using Bhikku Cyclas +1 for the augment bonus. Impetus down should be anchorite cyclas +3

Ah, yeah I have that equipped for impetus. I just set my regular set when it's not up. Apologies. I do not have that body just yet. I've got too many jobs lol. But I'll work towards that though! Thank you, Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-05-24 00:35:42
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well I don't know the math behind it, but kendatsuba +1 might spike higher vs crit damage+8%'s average, so it's probably not a huge loss to use it. Might be pretty close to not matter, if anything, better to use when low buffed.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-05-24 00:37:11
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It's funny. If abnoba was like 6%/6% it'd be better than both.

No impetus, kend+1 should be better
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By Cronnus 2019-05-24 01:10:14
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What about the Ryuo feet? Having them in the set adds 77 attack (including bonus), but provides 0 acc. Kendat feet would give 0 attack with 48 acc.
I think I chose Ryuo because they had the highest str I could find in boots and with crit.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-05-24 01:33:19
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They're kinda best feet no matter what until acc matters

A really good STR/Crit herc might beat em
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By eeternal 2019-06-04 07:51:35
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Started gearing Mnk and I would like to thank the community for their support on the gearsets, much obliged.

Wanted to ask about BiS for both Cataclysm and spinning attack?

Also, after browsing previous posts, it seems better to gear raging fist toward wsd (outside impetus), which brings up the question, would you use epaminondas ring/regal or epaminondas ring/niqma?

Lastly, any good volt pieces good for mnk worth having?

Cheers
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-06-04 10:01:18
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eeternal said: »
Wanted to ask about BiS for both Cataclysm and spinning attack?

IDK about BIS, but here's what I use for Cataclysm.

ItemSet 367005

Upgrades in set would be Novia Earring for Crematio, Baetyl Pendant for Sanctity, Ophaneus' Belt in place of Yamabuki-no-obi. Alber Strap if you happen to have it handy. Cape I just use WSD/STR, but unsure if MAB/STR would be better. Didn't go out of my way to test which one was better, since it's so niche and I have little-no use for it anymore after capping MNK cards. It's still cool for Dynamis Midbosses.

As for Spinning Attack, I just use my Howling Fist set and swap out the Moonshade. The WS is so weak, hardly use it.

Actually (edit), looking at new ambu staff, it's probably way better for Cataclysm. Forgot Monk could use this, but it should easily win, especially considering the Macc difference.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Xoanon
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-06-04 10:22:02
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Anybody mathed out the best combined use/rotation of our JAs, in an "average" situation?
Granted "average" means very little...

I suppose:
1) Capped Accuracy
2) Capped magic haste
3) Some att buffs, but not capped (pre and I would assume post impetus 50 charges as well)


Lately I've been using the following sequence, on a rotation of 5 mins, but I'm not sure it's the best.

min 0
Impetus+Focus
Min 2
Berserk+Focus+Warcry (Impetus still has 1 min left)
Min 3
Footwork (Berserk still has 2 mins left)

Rinse and repeat. I noticed in my parses this helped me reduce the gap between when imp is up or down, but I'm not sure this is ideal...
Previously I was syncronizing Berserk and Impetus, which comes in handy since they have the same duration.
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