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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-08-27 19:09:43
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Most of them are going to be fairly close to each other for TP except with impetus up, I'd just use something multi-functional like dex/da if you really need the acc, which will also cover shijin.
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By Shiva.Hiep 2018-08-27 20:25:41
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Beefy numbers
Was messing around on MNK today in Omen.
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By Asura.Topace 2018-08-27 20:34:28
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Shiva.Hiep said: »
Beefy numbers
Was messing around on MNK today in Omen.
Are you using Empy?
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By Shiva.Hiep 2018-08-27 20:36:22
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Yes I was, but was surprised since I didn't have all my attack buffs up.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2018-08-27 20:38:47
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Did you have Counterstance up?
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By Shiva.Hiep 2018-08-27 20:40:34
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Negative, I'm too scared to use it outside of fodder floors. I had 1 March (not sure if it was Honors in the pic), 1 Minuet, a BoG'd frailty.
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By Asura.Topace 2018-08-27 21:00:05
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Highest I've done is 31k VS 48k is insane to me. Makes me want to finish my vere faster.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-08-27 22:23:57
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That's Thinker and not Gorger. 48k Smite is impressive. I've hit in the 30ks before, highest ws i hit was TK
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By Odin.Horu 2018-08-27 23:51:46
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Shiva.Hiep said: »
Beefy numbers
Was messing around on MNK today in Omen.
mind throwing in some gear sets? 5k normal hits, 10k crit melee attacks and 40-50k WS's sounds like something from a much needed wet dream, if you didn't have attack abilities up, we're looking at incredible numbers right there considering the subtleblow monk gets
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By SimonSes 2018-08-28 02:14:38
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Isn't that addon shows like damage from whole melee round? With number of attacks between [] ? There is now way to actually do 11k melee crits on MNK. You would need over 800 base damage and proc triple damage on empy.

Now VS works like intended. My google excel sheet, where I calculated most mainstream WS potential, shows max dmg exactly around 48k. You need 50/50 stacks of Impetus, bis set and proc the mix of multi attack to cap you at 8hits VS (QA+DA or 2xTA for example).
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By Odin.Horu 2018-08-28 03:09:32
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SimonSes said: »
Isn't that addon shows like damage from whole melee round? With number of attacks between [] ? There is now way to actually do 11k melee crits on MNK. You would need over 800 base damage and proc triple damage on empy.

Now VS works like intended. My google excel sheet, where I calculated most mainstream WS potential, shows max dmg exactly around 48k. You need 50/50 stacks of Impetus, bis set and proc the mix of multi attack to cap you at 8hits VS (QA+DA or 2xTA for example).

You are correct, the higher dmg has multiple hits to one round, I didn't notice the collacted number to the side, still tho, he was averaging 4-6 attacks per round, averaging 6k-12k every 2 seconds (According to the time stamps), thats pretty decent imo.
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By SimonSes 2018-08-28 04:18:54
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Yes, but keep in mind he was probably at 50 stacks of Impetus, so +50% critical damage and critical rate and it is just pure luck to reach that many stacks.
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By Shiva.Hiep 2018-08-28 04:44:01
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New to monk, so didn't know all of this information about Impetus. Here are my sets and augments:

sets.precast.WS = {ammo="Knobkierrie",
head="Adhemar Bonnet +1",neck="Fotia Gorget",ear1="Sherida Earring",ear2="Moonshade Earring",
body="Adhemar Jacket +1",hands="Adhemar Wristbands +1",ring1="Niqmaddu Ring",ring2="Regal Ring",
back=gear.STRWSDCape,waist="Moonbow Belt +1",legs="Hizamaru Hizayoroi +2",feet=gear.TPFeet}
sets.precast.WS["Victory Smite"] = set_combine(sets.precast.WS, {hands="Ryuo Tekko +1",ring2="Begrudging Ring",})

gear.STRWSDCape = {name="Segomo's Mantle", augments={'STR+20','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','STR+10','Weapon skill damage +10%',}}
gear.TPFeet = {name="Herculean Boots", augments={'"Fast Cast"+1','"Cure" spellcasting time -10%','Quadruple Attack +3','Mag. Acc.+20 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+20',}}

Set I was TPing in:

sets.defense.Hybrid = {ammo="Staunch Tathlum +1",
head="Kendatsuba Jinpachi +1",neck="Loricate Torque +1",ear1="Sherida Earring",ear2="Telos Earring",
body="Kendatsuba Samue +1",hands="Kendatsuba Tekko +1",ring1="Defending Ring",ring2="Gelatinous Ring +1",
back=gear.TPCape,waist="Moonbow Belt +1",legs="Kendatsuba Hakama +1",feet="Kendatsuba sune-ate +1"}

gear.TPCape = {name="Segomo's Mantle", augments={'DEX+20','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','"Dbl.Atk."+10'}}

Just saw 2 back-to-back 40k+ VSs, so thought I'd share.
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By Odin.Horu 2018-08-28 06:07:10
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SimonSes said: »
Yes, but keep in mind he was probably at 50 stacks of Impetus, so +50% critical damage and critical rate and it is just pure luck to reach that many stacks.

The different between the crit dmg is 82% for the "5 hit crit combo" (When divided by 5) and the "2 and 6 crit hit combo" (When divided by 2 and 6 respectively).
Considering the abnormal "normal" dmg right at the end, I'm estimating that the crit dmg stayed the same (Impetus/bhikku's wasn't in effect or was only used for the WS), its Verethragna's triple dmg after-math that turned 1 of the crit dmg in the 5 hit crit round to 11k dmg and 1 hit (Possibly both) from the normal attack round to 4.1k in 2 hits in comparison to the crit 2.9k in 2 hits (Which is within reason the amount of dmg as the first 2 crit sets)

even if he was wearing bhikku's the whole time, the impetus effect resets on the 5 hit round because of the missed attack,, his over all average crit dmg is still 1.5k per hit
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By Kronkeykong 2018-08-28 08:23:58
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Any chance someone could pass me an up-to-date LUA? Helps a lot with gearing up as well.

Been looking into MNK and a lot of this discussion interests me.
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By SimonSes 2018-08-28 08:33:51
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Hiep are you sure you dont have some funcion that overwrite your tp and vs body with impetus up? Those nunbers are simply impossible without Bhikku Cyclas +1
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-08-28 08:51:48
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Shouldn't you be able to reach that number at capped attack/defdown if you proc TA twice and get Crit out of all 8 hits?
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-08-28 08:55:24
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Note that Glassy Thinker takes +50% from blunt and H2H damage.
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By SimonSes 2018-08-28 08:57:37
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Asura.Geriond said: »
Note that Glassy Thinker takes +50% from blunt and H2H damage.

Ok, that explains everything lol
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-08-28 09:40:58
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Interesting. I didn't know that.
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By SimonSes 2018-08-28 10:28:21
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Any chance that Glassy Gorger is +50% slashing then? That would explain 55k Savage Blade, that I also couldn't explain on paper.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-08-28 10:32:11
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So then Craver would be piercing I guess? Also, what source did you find that Thinker = +50% blunt damage? That would make sense if all 3 had an innate weakness that most of us ignored.
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-08-28 10:55:02
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Craver's piercing yes- 99k Rudra's are not uncommon on it
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-08-28 10:59:28
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There was a big effort over on the BG forums to translate resistance related info from the JP wiki, which is a lot more complete than our knowledge was. It had nearly comprehensive elemental resistance ranking info, as well as damage type gimmicks such as these listed in it.

Most of the results have been compiled here, though it hasn't been updated since earlier this year:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349586062856814593/406106601292824598/FFXI_Monster_Resistances_full_1-25-18.xlsx

This is the original topic, which has more info, including descriptions of how the skillchain and elemental resistance mechanics work:

https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/130595-Legends-of-the-Hidden-jp-testing
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-08-28 11:48:23
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Thanks for sharing. I'm not on the BG forums much so I miss a ton of info-gold. The HTBF proc explanation, particularly the "pet white proc" is pretty enlightening and never seen that mentioned before.

At least we know MNK rocks Glassy Thinker, so we have one random fight where it shines. I'll take what we can get!
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By Odin.Horu 2018-08-29 04:35:08
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Asura.Geriond said: »
There was a big effort over on the BG forums to translate resistance related info from the JP wiki, which is a lot more complete than our knowledge was. It had nearly comprehensive elemental resistance ranking info, as well as damage type gimmicks such as these listed in it.

Most of the results have been compiled here, though it hasn't been updated since earlier this year:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349586062856814593/406106601292824598/FFXI_Monster_Resistances_full_1-25-18.xlsx

This is the original topic, which has more info, including descriptions of how the skillchain and elemental resistance mechanics work:

https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/130595-Legends-of-the-Hidden-jp-testing

Much appreciated for the links
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2018-09-01 15:57:55
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people PMed me for this a while ago:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0diasa035o5ahc/DPS%20Calculator%20-%20Mnk%20August2017.xlsx?dl=0

sorry, I changed the name at some point (which broke the link) when I was updating it last year and then I quit and forgot to link it.
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By alamihgo 2018-09-06 22:13:25
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What would a Final Heaven set look like in 2018?

Asking for a friend.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-09-06 22:20:06
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ItemSet 359891

Replace fotia belt with moonbow+1, moonshade for sherida probably
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By Odin.Horu 2018-09-07 04:07:42
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
people PMed me for this a while ago:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0diasa035o5ahc/DPS%20Calculator%20-%20Mnk%20August2017.xlsx?dl=0

sorry, I changed the name at some point (which broke the link) when I was updating it last year and then I quit and forgot to link it.
If i am reading the dropbox correctly, monk sucks in dps mathematically wise? even with a butt load of buffs.

Hows it hold up with crit bonus's tho? idk how to adjust something from drop boxes and I dont have any programs that run .xlsx files
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