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By Taint 2019-06-18 06:00:39
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ItemSet 365603

Great ACC and DA in this set. Less STP but WARs bread and butter is capping DA.
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By Spaitin 2019-06-18 06:02:09
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So to make things simple, lets call each hit on decimation 2 FTP and assume no other MA and no other WSD. With DW you are looking at a 4 hit WS (lets just assume 100% acc.)

It is early and I might be doing this wrong.

8% wsd dmg would add 2% to your WS avereage. (first hit only gets the bonus). 8% WSD dmg adds .16 FTP Since it happens 100% of the time assuming no misses the average is 2%

3 qa would have the advantage of being able to proc on two hits. with 2 ftp it has a 3% chance of adding 6 FTP that is 3% of 6 FTP so .18 FTP on average x2. so .36 FTP average added. Making 3 qa more than twice as strong as 8 WSD

As for the str, too early for me. Barb is not a bad offhand. but the new sword has another massive advantage. you get 3 qa during TP phase as well. Have not tested it in game. But the offhand hierarchy is probably zan > digir (depending on augments) > barb. with reikiko probably being the best one for MS zerg with DW.

Looking at it, on decimation, 1 DA is worth about 2 WSD and with 1 qa being worth about 6 WSD.

If I am wrong, feel free to let me know.
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2019-06-18 06:54:16
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Taint said: »
ItemSet 365603

Great ACC and DA in this set. Less STP but WARs bread and butter is capping DA.
Hofud?
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-06-18 07:21:03
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It's a stand in for Zantetsuken, because the item database hasn't been updated for the HTBF Odin loot.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-06-18 07:33:01
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3 Months behind on the item update
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By DirectX 2019-06-18 08:15:54
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So I should use 3 QA Odyssean hands I have over 7% WSD ones I have also?
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By Spaitin 2019-06-18 08:45:48
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DirectX said: »
So I should use 3 QA Odyssean hands I have over 7% WSD ones I have also?
the 7 wsd ody hands will be beat by basically all MA pieces. Argosy Hq/nq or sulevia +0,1,2 or whatever MA options I cant think of at the moment.
The only way I can see WSD winning is if you already have 100 DA (fighters roll) in ws set and are able to add the wsd without reducing your DA from 100.

I.E with digir i had a set that in WS had like 108 DA during fighters. so changing out the digir for barb was a solid swap in that case. But now with the 3 QA sword, it is probably a modest boost for all sets outside of MS zergs. Not to mention the added TP build of 3 qa. The 4 haste might allow you to make some swaps that are more attractive. Have not looked into that yet.

STR is not quite as valuable on decimation as it is on reso (still pretty valuable). So you can use sets that are really similar but have more emphasis on MA than STR builds. As long as the sacrifice is not too extreme.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-06-18 09:27:03
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WSD does practically nothing for Decimation, use something with STR or MA.
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By johnnyaf87 2019-06-18 12:35:18
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Got regal Capt gloves from AMAN

Has these been tested in endgame content? As it would make sense due to acc requirements.

Did wave 3 windy last night (I'm no testing guru) with the gloves, but I couldn't mash upheaval fast enough due to animation lock and damn near capping TP. Is this normal when hyper buffed or those gloves kicking in?

Chango AF3 legs/feet Relic3 body war neck+1 r20... ect.
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By Nariont 2019-06-18 12:46:04
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considering they only kick in when your acc is already bad and continue to get better as your acc gets worse. Gonna say no, the gloves had no impact on your tp gain, thats jsut you being super buffed proper
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By Taint 2019-06-18 13:13:33
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https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Regal_Cpt._Gloves

Pretty slick for a toggle piece when your ACC is suffering.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-06-18 13:21:52
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It's really for when your fighting a Thief NM and no RDM nearby for a proper Distract III on it.
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By johnnyaf87 2019-06-18 13:33:21
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Guess the better question is, when do these accuracy check?
Initial swing determines the proc rate till disengaged or per swing?
When you wiff an attack round, does your next round make you jam out like the drummer of black sabbath?

Ok last question was more of a joke.
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By Nariont 2019-06-18 13:37:54
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checks your acc vs targets evade, if acc check falls below 60% latent kicks in til its floored at 20%
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By johnnyaf87 2019-06-18 13:43:27
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Nariont said: »
checks your acc vs targets evade, if acc check falls below 60% latent kicks in til its floored at 20%
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2019-06-22 07:29:38
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Does anyone have an up to date Warrior spreadsheet?
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By Spaitin 2019-06-22 08:35:09
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Does anyone have an up to date Warrior spreadsheet?
i dont think there is one actually. All the ones i have seen have been wrong.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-06-22 09:00:42
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Asura.Saevel said: »
It's really for when your fighting a Thief NM and no RDM nearby for a proper Distract III on it.

Great advice for dynamis volte Monk and thief leaders, if under buffed
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By devasbismarck 2019-06-24 12:11:26
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Can anyone link a DT set or a general survival set that includes other stats like mdb, vit, hp when at 50% cap for remaining slots.
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By Asura.Bayonette 2019-06-24 12:36:54
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devasbismarck said: »
Can anyone link a DT set or a general survival set that includes other stats like mdb, vit, hp when at 50% cap for remaining slots.

ItemSet 367438


This is what I use, I am overcapped on DT now after replacing sulevia head and body with Odin gear. I stack meva and HP anywhere I can. Needs some tweaks now since the new Odin gear has so much DT-.
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By Spaitin 2019-06-24 13:51:28
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devasbismarck said: »
Can anyone link a DT set or a general survival set that includes other stats like mdb, vit, hp when at 50% cap for remaining slots.

ItemSet 367123 ItemSet 367131


this is the set i have been using since i got it. I just keep chango equiped. It appears to be the best hybrid DPS set war has atm. 50 PDT/MDT and 37 BDT. with or without sam/fighter in game testing had it leaps and bounds better DPS better than anything we could do with r15 bravura. With Sam/Fighters can hit a 3 hit build with 100 DA.

If you are going full turtle, the set above works great, i would use tartarus if you have it over the Hjarrandi breastplate.

cape is augmented with 20 dex 30 acc 20 attack 10 STP and PDT. could probably get away with 20 vit for a bit of extra defense.

valhala body/head is stand in for hjarrandi. NQ tempus is just fine.
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By zixxer 2019-06-24 14:43:20
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Asura.Bayonette said: »
devasbismarck said: »
Can anyone link a DT set or a general survival set that includes other stats like mdb, vit, hp when at 50% cap for remaining slots.

ItemSet 367438


This is what I use, I am overcapped on DT now after replacing sulevia head and body with Odin gear. I stack meva and HP anywhere I can. Needs some tweaks now since the new Odin gear has so much DT-.

This is similar to what I use, except both nq/hq Odnowa, and Loricate neck.
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By devasbismarck 2019-06-27 18:53:10
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Could anyone link what the best upheaval with ukon set would be? The first page looks outdated or possibly wrong? No fotia etc.
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By Spaitin 2019-06-27 18:57:19
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exact same set as chango.
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By devasbismarck 2019-06-27 19:02:15
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I dont know the chango set i dont have that wep, im currently using this and want to improve it.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/367494
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By Spaitin 2019-06-27 19:07:26
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ItemSet 367495

this is what i use. Fotia is trash for upheaval.
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By devasbismarck 2019-06-27 19:11:26
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What have you added to the odyssean pieces? Are they dark matter dependent? Why are the fotia not ok? I dont understand its 20% ws damage?
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By Spaitin 2019-06-27 19:11:53
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4-5 WSD and 10-15 vit on each one. Fern and Taupe are great for it.

ironically fotia doesnt do any WSD.they add to the FTP that doesnt transfer on upheaval. Been answered about ten times through these threads.
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By devasbismarck 2019-06-27 19:46:15
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Spaitin said: »
4-5 WSD and 10-15 vit on each one. Fern and Taupe are great for it.

ironically fotia doesnt do any WSD.they add to the FTP that doesnt transfer on upheaval. Been answered about ten times through these threads.

Im not too familiar with oseem and the regular stones, can i add more than one stone type at a time and multiple or should i add all 3, 1 of each until i hit satisfactory rolls?
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By Asura.Korgull 2019-06-27 20:01:14
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You cannot use more than 1 stone in each augment, you have to choose between Taupe, Pellucid and Fern, and each one has different effects. You can get stats/acc/att/macc/mab/racc/ratk and "abilities" with each stone but on different degrees.
Fern forces to break the "cap" on "job trait augments" like Double attack, critical hit rate, weapon skill damage, etc; example, on odyssean pieces the cap of WSD is 4% with Taupe and Pellucid, but you have a chance to get up to 5% with fern.
Taupe stones can break the stat cap of 10 (STR, VIT, DEX, AGI, etc), up to 15.
Pellucid can break the acc/att/mab/macc/racc/ratk cap of 25 up to 35 or something like that.

So basically you want to use fern or taupe and aim for 10 vit 5 wsd or Vit 15 wsd 4 and as much acc/att as possible.

Hope it makes sense.
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