Papa John's Boycott

I agree.

I find it funny he liked this post when it clearly is insulting him lol.

You could also try to improve your product to bring in new business. Papa Johns definitely benefits from being cheap and consistent(ly shitty), but there are other routes to making money.

If someone worth over 240 million (so says wiki) can only continue to maintain their current lifestyle by one means of income, they need to lose their fortune.

I would bet everything I own that if his banking and investing portfolio came out you would see he is far from poor or even stuggling to maintain his lifestyle.

The guy is greedy and has an axe to grind, thats all it is.

There is a huge difference between "Taking advantage" and simply abusing the system. Personally, i take advantage of the Canadian system, by using the tools they offer: Grants and services for better education, medical necessities, etc.

The people seeking a handout, so they can live without lifting a finger are the ones who abuse the system, and as proven, are far and few between.

Nothing is going to be perfect. Ever. A minute amount of people are always going to abuse something. Understandable if your argument is that "people are greedy". Which contrary to popular belief, isn't true.

Many people are rather generous, once they can sustain themselves. That said, being generous isn't primarily related to giving handouts. Being shown how to do something by someone is pretty generous, as well as being shown where to find the information if one is having difficulties locating it. A lot of colleges are becoming more generous with their knowledge and courses by offering variances online, which were previously only for those who could attend.

do you really think low income employees really care about their bosses?? your idea of this "disease" also works from the bottom up.

if someone isn't "doing something about it" when they aren't satisfied with their life, then there's not really any amount of support that will ever change that...

I think most people do not understand the purpose of an employer offering health care benefits. It is to attract the best people to positions available at your business and to make them happy enough to want to work there for a very long time. It is a "benefit" to working there, an added bonus along with your salary. Jobs with a high turnover rates do not offer benefits because they expect to be rehiring/retraining people constantly because they are very low skill jobs.

Low skill job or not, does not equate into a high turn over rate. Both the employers and employees can be held responsible for this on different levels. Employers not treating employees fairly, employees acting like ***, both not wanting to perform and maintain a certain work ethic and product/service quality, etc.

The single greatest reason of high job turnover rates in all of North America, is that employers have started treating their workforce as expendable resources. They believe that they can find someone just as skilled (on paper) as the person who left. Many times Employers would rather find someone that fits in with the company moreso than having skill. Which also perpetuates the problem further. They don't bother to invest in training an employee, because they see it as a cheaper investment to find someone already *somewhat* skilled, and will be more likely to follow their code of conduct, even if it means glossing over the details of bad business decisions.

Yeah, I do believe they care about their bosses. I care about people coming to/back the company I work for, and my bosses doing the right things to keep our company strong. To at least the extent people care about having a job to feed their hungry mouths, yes, I think they care about their bosses.

All the will and effort in the world can still amount to nothing. Youre right in saying everyone has the right to try and do better for themselves, but people saying anyone can do/be anything, is just crazy.

Backup anything in this with one single fact. Anything. Show me emplyees not being treated fairly. Show me a high skill job with a high turnover rate. Show me people working at Papa Johns not being treated fairly. Show me how Obamacare was a bad business decision made by Papa John's.

LOL... really people wanna boycott Papa Johns cause of this.. Hate to break it too you but alot of business are going to be doing the same because of Obamacare.. Applebee's and Darden Restaurants have also announced they have similar plans cause Obamacare. And these wont be the only places that will be cutting hours.

People really need to stop bandwagoning without doing their research it really just makes you look stupid.

Amandarius is also one of those people in the thread complaining about obama. So no matter what they are gonna side with papa johns.

It's not Papa John's. If you are going to boycott Papa John's because of this get ready to boycott a few thousand more companies that do this. Obamacare, though well intentioned, was a very poorly written porrly thought out law.

Do you agree with everything in Obamacare? If so, did you actually read the law? If you didn't read the law how do you know if you agree with everything in it? You don't have to defend everything in a law you never read just cos you like the name and the people that passed it. Laying off emplyess over 30 hours a week and capping at 29 hours was an obvious natural response to this one mandate in Obamacare.

Doesnt matter if it was brock or mittens that won, papa john would still be using the ***out of his workforce/not giving a *** about them, while hes raking in his wealth. I think that much is clear now. Call it bad product, shitty customer service, horrible advertising (or lack there of, if you will), or obamacare, obama this, obama that.

Doesnt matter.

Papa John's obviously hires people because they hate them right?

Instead of raising the price of pizza by 11 cents (as said by Papa John himself) he would instead reduce the number of working hours to below the federal mandate. This is a completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and non-questionably bad decision.

What i said is actually backed by Economic professors who've researched these very same effects over the last 30-40 years.

They are further reinforced factually by countless job experts. People being fired because of the results of a president-elect, is treating employees unfairly. Demanding more and giving them less, also treats employees unfairly. These are all indisputable facts.

They are also against the law, and against the constitutional rights of the people.

Obamacare? really? people are still using such an inappropriate term, considering it's THE EXACT SAME THING Romney did in his state as Governer of MA.? Universally accessible healthcare and educational promotional programs are the very things he did, that you're against.

Darden's (Olive Garden and Red Lobster)
Applebees
Kroger
Jimmy Johns
Texas Longhorn
Welch Allyn
Dana Holding Corp (Didn't give specifics just warned)
Stryker
Boston Scientific
Medtronic
St. Jude Medical
Abbot Labs
Lockheed Martin
Alcatel-Lucent
Smith & Nephew
Covidien
Hill Rom
Murray Energy


Not all are cutting hours down to 29 to avoid the penalty, but most of them have cited rising health costs as reasons for layoffs.

I'm sure there are a lot more. I bolded the ones which people are probably more familiar.

You didn't back anything up with a fact lol. You used nameless people, experts and professors and say they back you up.

It's still honestly alot more than you do to substantiate your claims, Amandarius. Your argument, once defeated, turns to "you're just being fed by your liberal masters" or "liberals are bad, M'kay? M'kay." and the like. Why not follow the advice you give us, about researching the *** claims you give us (which then turn out to defeat your own argument with actual fact).

Try living in MA... why do you think I pay for it instead of getting it for free.. :|

I didn't say anything like that lol.

One step closer to "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs"! :) GET READY TO LIVE YOUR LIVES ON COUCHES BECAUSE THE RICH WILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING AND THEY'LL COME FIX YOUR HOME WHEN IN NEED AND HELP YOU FEED YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE SO FAT YOU CANT GET OFF THE COUCH BECAUSE YOU MOOCH OFF YOUR MOTHER.

Its okay guys, Obama will be glad to hand you a portion of his paycheck every month.

and if you cant read sarcasm. This was all blatantly sarcastic in nature, as people tend to forget that the rich no matter how much they pay will still be 'rich' and the poor will still be poor.

really? because you constantly stated that in the other thread.

I'll take What is a slipper slope fallacy? for 800, Alex!

Well just use logic. Take a pizza shop for instance like Papa John's. I worked at a Little Caesar's for three years while i went to college. I was trained on the job in like an hour. They had charts above the pizza making station that showed you how much of everything to put on every pizza, a chart showing you how to cut the pizza. It was not rocket science. I could have quit any day and I would have been replaced the next day easily by a high school kid. I was not treated poorly at this job. It is not that they did not care about me, but it was they honestly couldn't care if i wanted to quit because I was easily replaced. They have no need to offer health care benefits to attract the best pizza makers in the world to work at a place like Papa John's. It's logic.

If the rich would stop pulling stunt like this people wouldn't need to be on Cash Aid.

Stay on topic plox.

Healthcare as an incentive to work somewhere is fine. Benefits attract good people plus the plans are usually much better than what one could afford by themselves. However, our current system of having healthcare tethered to employment is what is stupid. It's just nonsensical.

Lose your job, bye health insurance! Change jobs and insurance plans, have to deal with varying coverage! Employer decides your health is too expensive for his bottom line, deal with it!

All problems that could be remedied whenever this country finally decides that access to healthcare is a basic human necessity and should be provided for all through a single-payer system.

It is on topic... it has to do with what you have stated before.

I don't mean to sound mean, but f*** the rich people. I have trouble paying bills living paycheck to paycheck on my own. I barely have money left over to really enjoy myself at all on my days off. Heck, my parents have to help me sometimes when I'm in binds and in over my head.

My life is working 6 days a week trying to survive in this world. If you're wondering why I don't have a better job, I did go to college but only ended up in debt for about two years and was unable to get the job I received a degree for.