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By Quiznor 2012-07-18 21:45:45
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Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Once again, what constitutes a hotfix in other MMOs is a fully hyped "version update" for FFXI.
Pretty sure since mid-2010 or so the terms "patch" and "VU" became synonymous for FFXI, to disguise the fact that we're getting fewer major content updates per year than we used to.

I really don't know who they think they're fooling besides themselves.

Im sure there are several hundred thousand.subscriptions that are being fooled all the time,thats why they are still playing :D
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-18 21:49:10
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I wonder how many active subs, also known as suckers, there actually are now.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-07-18 21:56:40
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I wonder how many active subs, also known as suckers, there actually are now.

This is the FFXI section, not FFXIV. The paying alpha testers (suckers) are that way.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-18 21:57:09
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But... but... legacy chocobo...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-07-18 21:58:19
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FFXI is the best game ever.
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-07-18 22:06:05
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Pretty sure active subs total less than 200k. FFXIAH reports 257,710 active characters but there is bound to be a healthy margin of mules in there.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-18 22:10:36
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Mules, duplicate accounts... pretty much everyone has at least one of either, some (many) have multiple.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-19 00:28:22
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Going up in Nyzul isle floors not being clumped together is a nice improvement.. but the biggest complaint is still un-addressed. SE really needs too remove the 5~10 second delay after completing order lamps.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-07-19 00:34:29
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Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Going up in Nyzul isle floors not being clumped together is a nice improvement.. but the biggest complaint is still un-addressed. SE really needs too remove the 5~10 second delay after completing order lamps.

Good luck with that post update bud.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-07-19 00:35:57
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lol no, they need to remove order lamps altogether. If they seriously change the order to server-side then they will have essentially screwed everyone out of gear that hasn't yet done nyzul. God this event has got to be one of the worst implemented things in the history of FFXI. I can forgive them for salvage because it was a weird glitch that nobody would have noticed, but nyzul was screwed from the start.

I'll recant everything I just said if they actually remove order lamps; otherwise I'm glad I got all the crap I wanted by now.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2012-07-19 00:38:32
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They are not going to remove order lamps no matter how many people complain about it. I agree with you though.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-07-19 00:48:19
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Going up in Nyzul isle floors not being clumped together is a nice improvement.. but the biggest complaint is still un-addressed. SE really needs too remove the 5~10 second delay after completing order lamps.

Good luck with that post update bud.
This fix is only a minor inconvenience to players that wish to cheat the game. If they are only preventing players from changing NPC names for lamps then it won't stop anything. Players will still be able to access the NPC ID numbers for the lamps determining the order just the same. The true solution would have to be server side where the solution would be completely hidden from players.

I feel that they are too lazy to create a system just for lamps, so they are most likely adding a quick line of code to make sure the names of the lamps match the original. This won't stop anyone.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-07-19 01:09:06
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After doing this fun event so many times I have conjured up a few ideas. For instance "Set Preferences" Should have an additional "On" switch that makes items that have been pre-set automatically acquired upon entering Nyzul Isle.

Also, They should add a function that will automatically take you up "???" floors upon completing an objective.

They should have an exit zone like Legion has so you don't lose Alex purses / gear from the floor 100 boss because you won just in the knick of time.
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By Siren.Stunx 2012-07-19 01:15:38
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Going up in Nyzul isle floors not being clumped together is a nice improvement.. but the biggest complaint is still un-addressed. SE really needs too remove the 5~10 second delay after completing order lamps.

Good luck with that post update bud.
This fix is only a minor inconvenience to players that wish to cheat the game. If they are only preventing players from changing NPC names for lamps then it won't stop anything. Players will still be able to access the NPC ID numbers for the lamps determining the order just the same. The true solution would have to be server side where the solution would be completely hidden from players.

I feel that they are too lazy to create a system just for lamps, so they are most likely adding a quick line of code to make sure the names of the lamps match the original. This won't stop anyone.

pretty sure its gonna be like a vnm fix. server side.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-07-19 01:18:33
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It's possible, I just have doubts that they would care that much to go that far.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2012-07-19 01:19:44
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Of course, randomizing the order that is used each time regardless of order in the .DAT file fixes it also.
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By Solrain 2012-07-19 20:49:08
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Okipuit said:
We would like to get a wide range of feedback and viewpoints on the matter of collision since there is no right or wrong answer. The way people feel about this are quite different. Some players feel that collision should remain, while others feel it should be removed. As such, we would like to see how players feel about this by modifying certain aspects of it during the next test server update. Please stay tuned!

Who the hell is against this collision thing? I'd like to go to their house and dump 14 babies at the foot of their driveway when they're late for work and see how they feel about collision then.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2012-07-19 21:10:34
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Solrain said: »
Okipuit said:
We would like to get a wide range of feedback and viewpoints on the matter of collision since there is no right or wrong answer. The way people feel about this are quite different. Some players feel that collision should remain, while others feel it should be removed. As such, we would like to see how players feel about this by modifying certain aspects of it during the next test server update. Please stay tuned!

Who the hell is against this collision thing? I'd like to go to their house and dump 14 babies at the foot of their driveway when they're late for work and see how they feel about collision then.

People that *** for the sake of having something to *** about.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-07-19 21:11:46
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I'm glad about this collision update, how many people are constantly stumped by a drg's wyvern's butt in your face? :(
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-07-19 21:13:01
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
I'm glad about this collision update, how many people are constantly stumped by a galka otw to your mog house or a galka blocking a hallway or a galka appearing right when you flee? :(
I agree ; ;
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By Anninais 2012-07-19 21:19:40
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"Insert pathetic whining about lack of "content" for posted version update"

And to those who would participate in such acts... *** YOU! It's called version update because the "version" of the game that we play is being updated.. enhanced... tweaked..... manipulated to change the overall game experience. I don't care if it's one job ability timer adjustment change, or access to a new branch of story quests with new gameplay elements added. ITS STILL AN UPDATE!!

The fact that this game exists still is credit enough to SE that they do believe it in and want players to enjoy it. I am sure they are all sorry they aren't able to dole out more man hours putting together some delicious morsel of virtual game world for you to experience.

I love FFXI, always have always will. I love that it has changed. I loved that it will keep changing until one day its no longer supported on SE servers. That being said, if you don't like the game you pay to play STFU, cancel your account and play another game. Suicide also works if you have no other options.

Or you could send kind suggestions to the dev team on things you would like to see changed.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2012-07-19 21:23:19
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
I'm glad about this collision update, how many people are constantly stumped by a drg's wyvern's butt in your face? :(

It doesn't affect NPCs in any way sadly, just PCs that are stood still for 10 seconds+.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-07-19 21:44:00
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Anninais said: »

reported for idiocy.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-19 21:48:56
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Anninais said: »
"Insert pathetic whining about lack of "content" for posted version update"

And to those who would participate in such acts... *** YOU! It's called version update because the "version" of the game that we play is being updated.. enhanced... tweaked..... manipulated to change the overall game experience. I don't care if it's one job ability timer adjustment change, or access to a new branch of story quests with new gameplay elements added. ITS STILL AN UPDATE!!

The fact that this game exists still is credit enough to SE that they do believe it in and want players to enjoy it. I am sure they are all sorry they aren't able to dole out more man hours putting together some delicious morsel of virtual game world for you to experience.

I love FFXI, always have always will. I love that it has changed. I loved that it will keep changing until one day its no longer supported on SE servers. That being said, if you don't like the game you pay to play STFU, cancel your account and play another game. Suicide also works if you have no other options.

Or you could send kind suggestions to the dev team on things you would like to see changed.

I think we found Fupafighters sock account
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-07-19 21:54:08
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I think we found Fupafighters sock account

alter-ego with better punctuation and grammar?
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-19 21:55:18
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I'll alter your ego
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-07-19 21:58:14
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-07-19 21:59:42
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i was gonna post this
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