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 Ragnarok.Kongming
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-07-24 02:15:18
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been skilling parry a few hours now and while this is eyeball-science, it seems you get better skill up rates getting hit than evading the attack. Even parrying the attack seems unfavorable vs plain ole getting hit by the mob.

So basically it seems on par with evasion skill up now? Anyway, don't come out to Aby-Altepa unless you're ready to see Aery circa 2006.
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2012-07-24 02:15:53
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this parry update is making me sad 250 skill with polearm at 345 still no skill ups on pole but parry is about to pass polearm...
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By Bismarck.Phetty 2012-07-24 02:20:53
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So does this new hq staff have the potential to beat magian staves on sch with weather bonus? Sch isn't a job I care too much about So I won't make ToM probably ever and if I do 2-3 of them at most.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-24 02:24:09
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Magian = 35%

"Prism" = 15% + 10%

Need I say more?
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By Leviathan.Dreamx 2012-07-24 02:24:24
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Bismarck.Phetty said: »
So does this new hq staff have the potential to beat magian staves on sch with weather bonus? Sch isn't a job I care too much about So I won't make ToM probably ever and if I do 2-3 of them at most.

I'm pretty certain that this staff + Obi's + Twilight cape makes SCH...

So broken.



Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Magian = 35%

"Prism" = 15% + 10%

Need I say more?

Are you taking in account the Weather bonus aspect?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-24 02:29:51
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Leviathan.Dreamx said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Magian = 35%

"Prism" = 15% + 10%

Need I say more?

Are you taking in account the Weather bonus aspect?

What did you think the 10% is?

Staff has 15% normal, 10% from weather, and lets add Twilight Cape of 5%.

1.15*(1.1+.1+.05)=1.4375

vs

Magian
1.35*(1.1+.05)=1.5525

Not even a contest.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-24 02:29:59
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Yeeeeep, my COR and BLU will love this staff more than anything.
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By Leviathan.Dreamx 2012-07-24 02:42:57
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Anyone know the .dat # for the new staff?.. I want to mod mine I don't like it's look ><;
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-07-24 03:21:46
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This is only 5 mandys. You could do a ton more (and are probably done already) if you have a phalanx capable PL.

Stats for solo (if anyone cares): -50PDT, 30 regen, pro5 from field tome -- use issekigan when it's up; die/warp when pro wears off and start over
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-07-24 03:27:17
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Is this new staff worth synthing other than the weather thing/inventory? I really don't mind swapping out staves.. so if it isn't I'm not going to bother.
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By Shiva.Wishes 2012-07-24 03:36:06
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Bahamut.Colonelace said: »
this parry update is making me sad 250 skill with polearm at 345 still no skill ups on pole but parry is about to pass polearm...
Goes to show people are never happy.
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By Sylph.Arcanine 2012-07-24 04:01:42
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I really want the new HQ staff but I'm afraid of paying someone to make it and then they fail and I lose all my HQ staves... ; ;
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By Phoenix.Professoroak 2012-07-24 04:02:09
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Some quick playing around with Torbidtoloi hes got def boost, tp dmg atk and slow which i think is potent recoil dive did a little over 600 to skeleton t2VNM in xarc and hes slightly bigger then a reg pugil. I'd rate him a solid 8/10 up there with the staple pets maybe even replacing turtle in most situations. He cut the skeletons tp dmg in half with def boost and took near the same dmg as GG without def boost.
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By Phoenix.Professoroak 2012-07-24 04:03:28
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@arcanine its synergy you cant lose the staves ever im good at synergy and it still takes me 3-4 trys per synth it depends on random leaks and how quick they patch up
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By Sylph.Arcanine 2012-07-24 04:04:20
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Oooh... Didn't know, I've never been interested in learning Synergy. Well, that makes me feel alot better!
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By Xenshi 2012-07-24 04:04:57
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Phoenix.Professoroak said: »
@arcanine its synergy you cant lose the staves ever im good at synergy and it still takes me 3-4 trys per synth it depends on random leaks and how quick they patch up
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By Phoenix.Professoroak 2012-07-24 04:15:45
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can do it in one try, but it depends on the leak sometimes they stop on first try sometimes it takes like 8, if it takes 8 you run out of time i do my synths solo.
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By Sylph.Jkun 2012-07-24 04:26:07
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Guard 95 > 388 on PUP, Mandies in Abyssea-Attohwa. Took 5 hours, no food. Pretty insane.

Still have no idea what 90% of these new icons are supposed to represent. Looks like I am playing with a UI mod by someone who has no idea about interface design.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-24 04:27:06
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I bet trying to skillup anywhere in the next few weeks will be pointless, gonna be people skilling guard\parry _everywhere_ >_> lol
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-07-24 04:51:27
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LVirrelevant mob in tah<tab>

Stone5, earth weather, bonus from back/waist
Terra's staff - 2526
Chatoyant staff - 2913

Fire5, no day/weather bonus
Chatoyant staff - 2842

Blizzard5, no day/weather bonus
Chatoyant staff - 3086
Magian staff(+6) - 3586

Blizzard5, iceday, no bonus from back/waist/legs
Chatoyant staff - 3086 3082 3082 3082 3082 3082 3216 3216 3389 3389 3537
(sorted to make it easier to read)

Blizzard5, iceday, bonus from waist
Chatoyant staff - 3343 3343

Blizzard5, iceday, bonus from back/waist/legs
Chatoyant staff - 3466
Magian staff - 4028


Going back to the blizzard5/iceday/no back/waist/legs part, and given that I'm using +79mab, with 40 natural, = 119mab total

3086 / (100+79+40) * (100+79+40+10) = 3226

So the damage in the 3216 range is from magic crit

3389 / (100+79+40) * (100+79+40+10) = 3543

And the damage in the 3537 range is from random ice day proc + magic crit

3389 is from random ice day proc alone, since it matches the damage you get when you force day-bonus using the obi.

....

Basically, after thunder/ice spells(since you're using magian staves for those at the minimum, right?, this staff makes the current day spell the best most powerful spell. I should check chatoyant+fire spell+fireday vs magian staff+ice spell+non-ice day, but that's not for another few hours.

Hope that wasn't too confusing to read.
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By Sylph.Arcanine 2012-07-24 11:53:07
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Several thousand gil in fewell and several failed attempts later, I dub this impossible.

/le gives up hope
 
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By Leviathan.Ayrlie 2012-07-24 12:20:09
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Took a bit over 8 hours RL time to go from 325 to 417, partly cause of competition, and partly cause I took a few breaks as well.
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By Carbuncle.Shadowreapper 2012-07-24 12:26:54
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Did you used some food?
Edit, just saw the vid : What kind of food should i use to skill from 300 to 400ish?
Edit 2 : So Montagna is 1.8* times faster to skill up
 
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-07-24 12:46:41
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The abyssea test interested me so I'm doing it now

BLM/SCH, Blizzard5, iceday, back/waist/legs bonus, hailstorm, against beholders in aby tah

Magian+6
7188
7231
7243
7263
7243
7243

Chato
7128
7081
7136
7136
7136
7151

That's probably enough. Sure as hell came close. Doubt it'll change much if I keep nuking.
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By Ragnarok.Legendarycloud 2012-07-24 12:53:15
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What if you added Zodiac Ring to that?

Edit: Nvm, I think that would raise the numbers on both about the same.
 
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