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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2012-05-18 12:29:12
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seha your avi creeps me the f out where is it from
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-05-18 12:34:38
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It's just a doll.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-18 13:02:16
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I tried to get my Mom to play video games when I was growing up but no luck. I also attempted to get my Dad to play, set him up on a laptop and everything, but we engaged a mob and he was screaming at the screen because he couldn't attack the mob while it was beating on my poor helpless Lv1 SMN. He's still upset he got me killed. I found it hilarious, but I'm afraid the game was way too complex for him. In retrospect, setting up a controller might have been better on him, but I don't know how that would've worked either.
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By Phoenix.Elspetta 2012-05-18 13:07:12
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I tried to get my Mom to play video games when I was growing up but no luck. I also attempted to get my Dad to play, set him up on a laptop and everything, but we engaged a mob and he was screaming at the screen because he couldn't attack the mob while it was beating on my poor helpless Lv1 SMN. He's still upset he got me killed. I found it hilarious, but I'm afraid the game was way too complex for him. In retrospect, setting up a controller might have been better on him, but I don't know how that would've worked either.
My first MMO, I started out as a cleric and the level 5 quest was to kill some bat and bring its wings to the quest giver. I went outside town and immediately got an invite to party with some other level 5s doing the quest. The first bat was pulled, I couldn't figure out how to heal anyone and we wiped. Shortly after I deleted that character and started another in a new town as a melee. Never have looked back. I totally feel your Dad's pain though. It was horrible.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-05-18 13:12:58
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I don't understand parents/older adults that can't figure out how to play video games....

What is sofa-king hard?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2012-05-18 13:13:03
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This is my son's character and his name. I am still waiting for his horrifying realization that I have been posting on ah here on it all this time....

/drifts back in time.....

spoilered by the wall of text police in cooperation with the Free Children From Boredom Act of 2009
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-05-18 13:16:22
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Well if we talk in general when I was little I played all Tomb Raider games with my dad(alternating), which he liked, and some others on the old Sega like Asterix and Double Dragon where we actually duo'd.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-18 13:18:18
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I don't understand parents/older adults that can't figure out how to play video games....

What is sofa-king hard?
You've got a life that's established a frame-work of working with UIs, older adults don't. They don't have the dexterity/trouble-shooting skills we've established to manipulate technology.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-05-18 13:30:26
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I don't understand parents/older adults that can't figure out how to play video games....

What is sofa-king hard?
You've got a life that's established a frame-work of working with UIs, older adults don't. They don't have the dexterity/trouble-shooting skills we've established to manipulate technology.
I'm not buying that excuse anymore. Maybe in the 80s or early 90s when everyone didn't need to use a computer to accomplish anything in the business world that would have fit in, but now? I mean most people have a freaking smartphone....
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-18 13:34:49
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It's not an excuse. It's reality.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2012-05-18 13:35:07
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I don't understand parents/older adults that can't figure out how to play video games....

What is sofa-king hard?
You've got a life that's established a frame-work of working with UIs, older adults don't. They don't have the dexterity/trouble-shooting skills we've established to manipulate technology.

Lies and Slander!

YOUR parents just don't like you is all. If they really cared they would share your interests!!!

We parents sometimes pretend we are too stoopid to figure out things we don't really want to do. Also, we gave you those video games to keep you out of our hair! AND you just want us to do all the grinding boring stuff. Plus, after we invest 47 billion hours leveling for you, you are just going to start playing a new game anyways!

Go to your room!
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By Phoenix.Elspetta 2012-05-18 13:36:35
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I don't understand parents/older adults that can't figure out how to play video games....

What is sofa-king hard?
You've got a life that's established a frame-work of working with UIs, older adults don't. They don't have the dexterity/trouble-shooting skills we've established to manipulate technology.
I'm not buying that excuse anymore. Maybe in the 80s or early 90s when everyone didn't need to use a computer to accomplish anything in the business world that would have fit in, but now? I mean most people have a freaking smartphone....
I was in my mid 20s when I started playing video games and it wasn't easy at first. It's just a different mind set on how quickly you have to react and what buttons to push. Once you get used to them, it is relatively easy. But it is still new when you first start.

My Dad used to always play video games when I was growing up, but he refused to buy a computer when they became commonplace in homes. He now cannot live without on. He also does not see the need for a smartphone because he doesn't want to relearn how to do everything. We just got him on a texting phone last year.

Also - not everyone works with computers. Much of the older generations worked manual labor jobs, so even now, they are not as familiar with them. My grandma can barely send an email.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-18 13:43:59
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Learning a system is different than creating a system of learning. Kids adapt quickly to technology because they've inherently established a system of learning. Most older adults learn what they need to do on a system they work on to get by.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-05-18 13:46:26
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As you grow older learning things becomes harder. So many "adults" may not find the attractiveness in things they're not familiar with.

Just one out of many reasons.

Edit: or Tikal said it better.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-05-18 14:02:20
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many are afraid of failure and don't even try. My grandpa has only played loadrunner for the apple II and never touched another game yet my grandma has played basically every console system since atari 2600. It's mostly a mindset. Anyone can learn, they just need to associate something to it.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2012-05-18 14:14:19
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Learning a system is different than creating a system of learning. Kids adapt quickly to technology because they've inherently established a system of learning. Most older adults learn what they need to do on a system they work on to get by.

At what age do you and seha believe this phenomenon occurs? You two are chock full of crap. You don't reach a certain age and your brain quits working.

Do you think adults skipped childhood? Who the hell do you think you inherited all this wisdom from? The stork?

I blame teachers for filling your heads with all that children are the future malarky.

/door slam
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-05-18 14:18:20
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You don't suddenly stop learning, but I clearly remember my professor of development pshychology saying that around 30 brain starts slowing down bit by bit till it loses all its flexibility in the old age. Though you can still keep it trained and retain some amount of quickness you eventually become slower.
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By Phoenix.Elspetta 2012-05-18 14:19:21
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Learning a system is different than creating a system of learning. Kids adapt quickly to technology because they've inherently established a system of learning. Most older adults learn what they need to do on a system they work on to get by.

At what age do you and seha believe this phenomenon occurs? You two are chock full of crap. You don't reach a certain age and your brain quits working.

Do you think adults skipped childhood? Who the hell do you think you inherited all this wisdom from? The stork?

I blame teachers for filling your heads with all that children are the future malarky.

/door slam
LOL - I think you and your wife (and Sek's grandma) are different in the fact that you guys have always played video games. If an older person has never played video games, the learning curve is much different for them, then if you were to say, start playing a new video game.

I don't think they are saying that old people cannot play video games at all, I think they are just saying it is more difficult for an older person to learn the mechanics behind it. Like I suck at combo type moves where you have to mash a million buttons to make 1 action.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2012-05-18 14:45:07
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
my professor of development pshychology said

It's a con. And you start hearing it a lot when you hit college. It's an attempt to separate you from the wisdom and experience of your parents so that you will make foolish decisions on your own that benefit them. Buying extra classes you don't need, sleeping with creepy old men etc.

Look kids, people that are buttering you up and telling you how smart you are and mature you are 1.) selling you something or 2.) interested in you sexually.

You have no life experience so you are easy targets. Adults have been softening your brains with lies for so long you are now gullible sheep. You need to learn to question people's motives. Whenever they tell you anything positive about you.

Phoenix.Elspetta said: »
I suck at combo type moves where you have to mash a million buttons to make 1 action.

I am sure there are kids out there that suck at it too. Just because you can't do something personally doesn't make it a global generational disability!
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By Odin.Liela 2012-05-18 15:01:08
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I started playing in my twenties and it does seem like most game stuff comes much easier to my husband than to me. He started playing when he was really young, maybe 5 or 6. I mean, I might just be dense, but when we start a new MMO it takes him about four seconds to figure out how to put gear on or whatever and it takes me forever and a day. When we play a shooter game (we just recently started going through the Left 4 Dead series, for example) he can run up to a weapon he wants, have it in his hands, and be halfway down the block while I am still examining weapons and reading the little on-screen instructions about how to pick them up.

The more I play the easier it gets, but good lord, the first game I ever played was the first Halo and I was so terribad that my controller was nicknamed Sniper Bait. We'd get to a part that had a brute in it or something instead of a small herd of grunts and my husband would be all "um... just wait here behind this rock, I'll take care of it..." because I'd always die and we'd have to go back.

But it really might be that I'm just dense. I can't tell because dense people don't know that they are dense. ._.
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By Odin.Elmodfz 2012-05-18 15:07:29
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I don't play games with my parents, it's not happened in many many years. Since the PS1 in fact when we used to play games like Hot Wheels and stuff.

My mother isn't very "tech savvy" and just plays games on her laptop/DS like jewel quest, mahjong etc. My dad plays games on his PC like Skyrim, Command & Conquer, Mass Effect etc.

I find it hard to understand how anyone's grandparents can play games. Mine are so technophobic they can barely work their TV and DVD player. They don't even own a PC and never have. We gave them a very simple mobile phone a few years back so that if one goes out they have some from of communication should they need it. They can't even work that.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2012-05-18 15:11:44
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I'm 45, my wife 12 years my junior. We started playing ffxi together 8 years ago. we had played other games beforehand together, but ffxi was a game we both really enjoyed together. After the 1st year though, her character was still working on her limit breaks even though she played it as often or more than me. She loved to log in and chat. To her, it was little more than a glorified chat room^^
Alot has happened since then. We had a beautiful daughter together, Madison, who just turned 8 recently, and have been divorced for the past three years; regrettably. No, it wasn't a game issues that caused the divorce, rather a mother-in-law issue. In any event, if ffxi is still around in a couple years, I would very much like to introduce Madison to it so that we can explore together.
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By Carbuncle.Bizzy 2012-05-18 15:17:43
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Me and my wife got married around same time as NA game release and we started playing then. I have a daughter who is 7 now who plays.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-05-18 15:18:11
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I'm sure my parents have the skills to learn a game, They're just not "Gamers". Most older adults who pick up a game and can barely figure out how to move could probably learn to play fairly quickly, They just don't want too /don't care.

My Mom played Mario, some face-book games once in a blue moon... Thats about it... My dad never picked up a game as far as i know. probably couldn't tell an Xbox from a Super Nintendo.

Funny thing is, My dad fixes computers/Printers/Copiers/etc for a living, he's a tech guy, But hand him a controller and his brain melts.

Personally, Going to have to agree with Nik on this, Older folks/Parents not being able to play games is not so much their brain "Slowing down", They're as smart or smarter than most of us and could learn if they wanted too... Its simply lack of motivation or want to learn. I'm sure any 80 year old man who wanted to play FFXI could likely pick up on the game given some time.... Which actualy just reminded me...

I played with an elderly fella a long time ago in FFXI, Don't recall his name, was in his late 70's, had about 4 characters... Great guy, Good player. Its all about the willingness to learn.

As far as the topic goes, as above stated, none of my parents play, But i did know someone who played with their dad, it was Brother/Sister/Father type deal. Good people. good players.

(Maybe i agree with both of you on some points...?)
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-18 15:46:02
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I can't tell if Nik is half joking or all the way joking lol. If you guys seriously think I'm advocating that older folks can't play, then you're sorely wrong. I'm saying it's become a part of modern culture and kids are introduced to it early, benefitting their learning because they create a system to better decipher incoming information specifically suited to UIs early in their lives, and further developing its complexity as they get older, becoming more and more efficient. This can be sensory overload for people who haven't developed one. Doesn't matter if you're twenty or eighty. Speaking from a cultural stand point though, our older generations are less and less likely to be experienced and/or interested, making it overly tedious and not worth it.

As it is, it's hard to verbally trouble-shoot someone through something if they don't know any of the key terms, be it computers or video games. This can make it extremely time-consuming and an anxious experience when first starting out.
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By Valefor.Flameblade 2012-05-18 15:48:08
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I play with my mom and step dad :D and they both have multiple 99s XD but not very good at them. Hell, they play more than i do XD
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By Sylph.Kawar 2012-05-18 16:05:24
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all i got to say to this is i like for the most part when linkshells are run by familys i do not know why i just do.

but i have met so many nice husband and wife users on final fantasy and others games.
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By Ragnarok.Vajral 2012-05-18 16:24:05
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I knew some couples in the game, we also had a grandfather/grandson duo in my first linkshell, they quitted years ago.

I'd love to play with my parents, but i bet they are really not interested in games.

Anyway i think that if parents and sons/daughters can play together on FFXI, everything should run fine in the family.

/cheer
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-05-18 16:40:25
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As nice as it would be for my parents to play... I don't think I want them to know just how much time I spend on the game. Plus, my mom only plays age of empires and my dad thinks games are evil and the devil is using them to control our minds...
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By Ragnarok.Eluveitie 2012-05-18 19:21:48
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
As nice as it would be for my parents to play... I don't think I want them to know just how much time I spend on the game. Plus, my mom only plays age of empires and my dad thinks games are evil and the devil is using them to control our minds...
We have the same dad lol. I shudder to think the speech if he ever saw pandemonium warden. IT'S THE DEVIL!!!!
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