[Dev] FINAL FANTASY XI 2012 Roadmap

They aren't confused, they're incompetent.

Blame the PR person making the hype while the dev team say it's not ready yet? It's always been the case.

Giving them more credit than they deserve as to ever being ready. Given the last couple of years of development there's no reason to believe that this really isn't all we've got in store.

I dunno, I look at the roadmap and actually think it's very well-organized. I like the division into 3 categories.

not with the layout, with their actual current plans.

I guess I don't think they are any different from previous plans. You have a couple brand-new events, revamps of old events, new job abilities, and new UI adjustments. I sort of have to ask what else you would expect to alleviate "chaos" or "confusion" barring a full-on x-pac/add-on announcement which would obviously only happen at Vana'fest.

nvm you don't get it...

I saw that map a little while ago. If SE made expansions that allowed us to explore those new islands, gave us new story line missions for them, perhaps a couple of new races/jobs or something, that would keep the game going considerably longer than updating the VW, old battle fields such as Einherjar and dyna etc would. I'd love a new place to explore, travel by boat or tele or something. It would give people much more things to do, even though there is already so much this game offers, a lot of people are just sitting in abyssea or grinding VW, WoE etc.

We're adventurers, give us somewhere new to explore!

Didn't they mention a looong time ago something about revamping weapon skills on the official forums? Don't see it on here, what ever happened to that?

You say this a lot, and it's really a cop-out response. Explain WHY he doesn't get it. If someone doesn't get it, explain it, don't just say, "You don't get it," as it's very condescending.

I don't see how he didn't get it. Sure, there are other things that could have been fixed, but like a few people, including myself, have said, they could be holding on to announce an expansion at Vanafest that takes care of these issues. If they don't announce something like that at Vana, then I completely agree it seems lackluster, though some things interest me. However it's likely that Vanafest will hold more news about things, and if they are going to release some type of Xpac, that's obviously not going to be part of the roadmap when they typically release big news like that at Vanafest.

So please, I'm sincerely asking, how did he not get it?

I knew your avatar was awfully familiar. What was your name back then?

EDIT: You posted on the RNG, WAR forums (among others) right?

really thats all SE has? I havent played ffxi since "***"bysea i see they arent working on improvements still

you didn't see because you have less of a reading comprehension level than he does, go acquire the ability and reread it, I'm sorry that I don't have the time nor the patience today to teach it to either of you.

I'm also sorry that you feel that it's a "cop-out" when really I have no obligation to explain it further. Not to mention that he should have got it from my earlier response, the fact that he didn't means he needs it explained to him like a child and I don't feel like doing that. Not to mention that dropping it was the less rude thing to do, I was trying to be nice and now you ruined that.

Now look what you did Shipp, SHAME ON YOU.

PS: You still don't get it.

You must have started World of Warcraft right before Cataclysm. Because while you are characterizing Cata as a massive success, and perhaps it was for a player new to the game, Blizzard lost 1-2 million subs after its release. End-game in Cataclysm sucked at release. Blizzard lost me with it pretty promptly.

Cataclysm (and prior "upgrades") also broke with Warcraft's ability to run on low-end systems acceptably, btw. The game is a RAM and CPU hog now.


I agree with regards to the PS2 being used as an excuse. And I think that SE basically subsidized the development and the losses from FFXIV on the backs of us FFXI subscribers. It's *** up, because there IS room in XI for another expansion (the game practically begs to take us to the Far East, for instance). We probably didn't get all of the content that we were due.

I imagine Square-Enix would like us to go over to XIV. I hope that 2.0 gives me a reason to switch, because the game is still unfinished.

Before you cast aspersions on other's reading abilities, you should probably take a long hard look at your own. I originally posted my comment to someone who said the roadmap was "confusing" and "chaotic". What you did in your earlier response was essentially explain that that guy meant their "current plans" are confusing and chaotic, without any further elaboration. Great, that's fine. I explained how I STILL disagreed with the statement given your interpretation. And I gave specific reasons. Shipp did too. Then you chimed in with "nvm you don't get it".

None of your other comments in this thread address the issue, other than random comments saying Cait Sith is lame, that they should increase the rewards for mog bonanza, or how you hope the game will be split into multiple windows. So I guess you're right, you don't have any more obligation to explain it further if you just choose to disengage from the argument with a non-starter like the very child you accused me of being.

Thanks for wasting both of our time on childish ad hominem ***that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Never posted in WAR or RNG that I can recall, mainly SMN, WHM and BLM as far as job forums. Unicorn, Fairy, and Flamewars as well.

Shippou was the screen name before they deleted my posts. Not sure if I kept it for the new KI or if I just shortened it to Shipp.

No, you just have the time and patience to ad-hominem all over the place. I have reread your post, and Mahoro covered exactly what happened in the post above this. YOU seem to be the one who doesn't understand.

No, you don't have an obligation to explain it further. However, if you don't, you also have no obligation to come back into the thread and be rude. You seem to feel obligated to do that, or maybe you just prefer trolling over civil discussion.

You didn't drop it, by the way. Writing, "You don't get it," is not dropping it. Dropping it would have been to not respond at all. You came in specifically to make a dig and nothing else. If you think that's dropping it, then it's no wonder that everyone else except you needs to brush up on their reading comprehension.

the more I think about this thread, I'm getting half-excited about the "play as a mob" gimmick. if done right, it could be so much fun

I call the penguin!

^ This is how I feel about it. You can make excuses about developer budget, time constraints, game's twilight years, etc etc etc. The main problem is that they are using developer time and budget but they are too busy "fixing op warp orientation", and "herp derp, must nerf afk smns on chigoes" to focus on cop rings, ws adjustments etc.
Honestly, it's not even about dev resources. I may be grossly oversimplifying but cant you just beep boop change two hex codes and now cop rings scale up an extra 40 levels....

I really don't mean to beat a dead horse every week when they release more lackluster content but it's *** sad when the only thing to get me excited on the horizon for the past 6 months is NOT EVEN RECOLORED neo-nyzul gear, and the fact that petrifacts will stack to 99. I mean honestly.... I saw petrifacts stacking to 99 and got a small thrill.

Don't get me wrong (or give me the "if you don't like it quit BS), I still enjoy FFXI thoroughly. Despite people claiming the game is super easy mode, I still do not have every piece of gear in the game I would like. I am still improving my character while having fun with my friends, and that is still worth 20$ a month to me.
HOWEVER, that doesn't excuse what's coming out of SE. The funding excuse really rustles my jimmies because the dev team is paid more than a good portion of this forum. They may not have a massive budget but I bet you could get a team of graphics school interns to churn out better ***. Hell, have a *** "submit your own content suggestions" thread on the official forums (we could all google translate our posts into JP so they'd get noticed). Make a "developer bonanza" contest if they wanna pretend they're not just jerking off all day. Just don't pretend that the dev team is doing close to anything that should be expected of them.

/beatingdeadhorse

This is what I really keep getting at with SE because it jumps off the screen every time they do something.

For instance lets take Legion - the new content on the block. It hasn't been received well, few people are going to be able to do it and player concerns have been floating around since the day after the last VU.

SE comes back and states they plan to modify HP levels of monsters and open up the purchasable list of Legion rewards to not require Key Items in an attempt to boost interest across the base. Fine.

Why exactly does this need to be test server'd? No one is going to be testing Legion on the test server. Just apply the changes so people can enjoy what was promised months ago already. The same could be said of stupid little changes like the Ranger distance fix which need very little testing and could be used as soon as it's put playerside.

Stuff like petrifact changes are so minor that they should be applied in weekly updates rather than waiting the 2 months or so it'll take for some housecleaning to be done. I get new things like content or major changes need to be evaluated before being put on the real servers but seriously - petrifact mods can't be changed for months? Or simple ***like the ammo changes? (stacking akvan bullets to 99 for instance)

Cmon, dev resources excuses only go so far before you have nothing but fumes and complete incompetence.

This is sad, I can't figure out how the *** you guys can paid for these *** developer's paid check a full year for few months of productivity. The best part most users here even give up their right to demand more from the developer, this is the reason why SE is laughing its way to the bank and not give a ***about the lack of new contents.

Well, to be fair, they're trying to add new content with what resources they have available. It's just not the type of new content most people want, which is expansion-level content. I would love an old-fashioned expansion, but I know until their work on FFXIV Version 2.0 is done, this is the state of things. It's obvious they have at least ONE designer on staff still, as we have been getting new mobs for the last 1.5 years.

That said, I completely agree Spart. There is no reason why Legion should not have been updated immediately. What is there possibly to test with decreasing monster HP?

Testing to make sure the HP isn't too low so players breeze through legion in 15 minutes. However, like he also said, you aren't going to be getting real feedback from testing changes like that on the test server. After this many years, SE should have a basic understanding of endgame DPS and be able to adjust accordingly without needing a "test server" full of people who aren't doing legion on live servers in the first place.

both of you need to obtain reading comprehension skills.

and:

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you missed out maho

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Well I was waiting until seeing this roadmap before officially giving my account to my friend. Quit a couple months back, but I had hope. That hope is gone. Good luck with your game people.

Also, I can't recall the last time I have seen a thread where Jet hasn't turned to insulting people's intelligence. Amazed his pretentious asshattery is still allowed to steam ahead at full force.

Anyway, hopefully for the rest of you the future updates bring you enjoyment.