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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-01 07:20:25
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Wishing bad things to happen to people who are more fortunate than you are != combatting injustice.

Wishing to dismantle a system that rigidly benefits a marginal portion of society - most of whom somehow think they're the victims - is close, though.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-03-01 07:26:03
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Wishing bad things to happen to people who are more fortunate than you are != combatting injustice.

I don't want anything bad to happen to people more fortunate than me but in this article the wounds are so painfully self-inflicted.

If $350,000 in income can't make you happy then no level of cash will make a family happy.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-01 07:36:20
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Wishing bad things to happen to people who are more fortunate than you are != combatting injustice.

Wishing to dismantle a system that rigidly benefits a marginal portion of society - most of whom somehow think they're the victims - is close, though.


Mostly I was talking about this:

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*** those ***. Hope those kids in the private school get yanked out and dropped in a public school, and have their coats taken, like Rocky Balboas son in Rocky V.

I'm all for dismantling society, though.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-01 07:36:32
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Wishing bad things to happen to people who are more fortunate than you are != combatting injustice.

I don't want anything bad to happen to people more fortunate than me but in this article the wounds are so painfully self-inflicted.

If $350,000 in income can't make you happy then no level of cash will make a family happy.

See above post.
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2012-03-01 07:49:07
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Funny thread. If you make more you spend more. If ya'll broke arses would put in some work maybe you could have some problems like these idiots! I got 99 problems but having money ain't one.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2012-03-01 07:59:37
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Ragnarok.Yathatguy said: »
Funny thread. If you make more you spend more. If ya'll broke arses would put in some work maybe you could have some problems like these idiots! I got 99 problems but having money ain't one.

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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2012-03-01 08:02:53
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Damn! Ok. How about...

lol@poorpeoplegettingpissygodrinksomemorePBR
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By Odin.Airius 2012-03-01 08:02:54
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Nothing wrong with a parent wanting a higher education for their children. And yes, private schools do offer a chance at higher education because they do not hold the same restrictions that a public school does (no child left behind policy for instance). On the other hand, if this guy can't afford private school for 3 children on a salary of $350,000 he is spending way to much on other unnecessary things.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-03-01 08:06:07
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Bahamut.Alukat said: »
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Just read this article. Makes me sick, how people can whine about not being able to afford that summer rental while we have a sky high unemployment rate.

*** those ***. Hope those kids in the private school get yanked out and dropped in a public school, and have their coats taken, like Rocky Balboas son in Rocky V.

yes, treating them poorly because their parents make more money than yours and ur jealous is the right thing to do.

why do so many people think that it is jealousy? have you ever considered that they are mad about injustice?

Sometimes it is injustice, sometimes it isn't. Maybe all of the wealthy people you know became wealthy by stealing, cheating, and other shady means. I can totally see how that would shade your judgment.

Because it sure shades mine. See, all of the wealthy people I know became wealthy by years - even decades - of extremely hard work and self denial. They did this because they knew that in the end, they would be able to live the lives they had always wanted.

Except now, the son of a Nebraska farmer who paid his way through college and grad school, worked for corporations he hated, slowly building a stellar resume, then finally being able to change his industry for the better, profit from that and start his own company is the bad guy. Because to a lot of people, this guy can't understand hard work. He doesn't know about sacrifice. How could he? Today he drives a new Suburban. Today he lives in a large, very nice house. Today (well, not today today) he travels to all of the places in the world he's wanted to see. Nevermind the fact that 10 years ago, his life was completely different, and that 20 years ago, he was in fact poor.

No. F*** him, f*** all the people that have more money than I do.

It's. Not. Fair. I. Want. Money. Too.

Right? That's not jealousy at all...

All I am saying is that unless you can point to a specific person/entity that has unfairly gained at the expense of another person/entity, you're just making stupid generalizations and whining. And even if you can, all you are doing is identifying one person/entity that is "bad."
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By Quiznor 2012-03-01 08:09:02
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Whats the "ballpark average" for a school year's worth of private school in the US? Asked for a ballpark because of the obvious different prices for different places.
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By Odin.Airius 2012-03-01 08:10:03
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I know! maybe the communists had the right idea. Lets all do that since everything should be equal and everyone should get everything cause the world can work like that.
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By Shiva.Karmessurma 2012-03-01 08:10:41
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I never heard something I cared so little about.
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By Odin.Airius 2012-03-01 08:12:00
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Whats the "ballpark average" for a school year's worth of private school in the US? Asked for a ballpark because of the obvious different prices for different places.

I believe mine was about $24000 a year. A bit cheaper than a state's college tuition

Edit: looked it up. it was $12000 a year. I must have been including both mine and my brother's tuition.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2012-03-01 08:14:41
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Funny thread. If you make more you spend more. If ya'll broke arses would put in some work maybe you could have some problems like these idiots! I got 99 problems but having money ain't one.

Huh??? If you make more, you spend more? What? No. If that was the case, maybe there wouldn't be so many bailouts and unemployment. You probably think by not taxing the rich the money will "trickle down." Get real. The rich get richer for a reason.

Fact of the matter is.....the rich have been getting over for quite some time now. You can call it "jelly" or "injustice" or whatever. But when you live in a world were the majority of the population can barely support themeselves or their families while there are people with waaaaay more than they need; something is bound to break. What really kills me is that these rich people couldnt have made their money without someone less fortunate busting their ***.

If you ask me, the problem should be to get rid of currency altogether and have a resourced based economy. Or just have a maximun wage. But thats another argument.....
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-03-01 08:19:32
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Yeah because the people that excel in exceptionally difficult fields that require years of intense training will work just as hard when you take away half of their pay, right? Sure.
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By Quiznor 2012-03-01 08:19:57
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Odin.Airius said: »
Quiznor said: »
Whats the "ballpark average" for a school year's worth of private school in the US? Asked for a ballpark because of the obvious different prices for different places.

I believe mine was about $24000 a year. A bit cheaper than a state's college tuition

Jesus,and I thought private school's here were expensive.Now I always knew american colleges (not private schools from age,idk 3-18) were grossly overpriced,but thats just nuts.There's a pretty highly recognized private 2nd level school (approx age 12-18 classes,think high school equivilant) in my town here,and its €3000 a term (3 terms per school year) so thats 9k.Also 3rd level colleges here arent so bad price wise as well.With the exception of one of them,because its a world renowned college,most of them arent even €3k a year (because I saw on the front page of a paper yesterday that there is outrage of the cost of 95% of colleges going up to €3k/year).And given the cost of living here is exceptionally outragous and I think we're either 2nd or 3rd most expensive country in the world (iirc Japan is #1 and we're 2nd i THINK) then this guy making $350k a year and not being able to afford 3 kids in private school (assuming $24k/year) needs to stop snorting mountains of cocaine for breakfast every morning.It doesnt take a genius to not piss away large quantities of money.But then again,without say "sweeping generalization" alot of people with alot of money,tend to not be so smart with it.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-03-01 08:23:00
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Odin.Airius said: »
Nothing wrong with a parent wanting a higher education for their children. And yes, private schools do offer a chance at higher education because they do not hold the same restrictions that a public school does (no child left behind policy for instance). On the other hand, if this guy can't afford private school for 3 children on a salary of $350,000 he is spending way to much on other unnecessary things.

How does no child left behind hinder an individual child's ability to learn? You just said you went to private school and it sounds like ya might be biased, idk. /shrug
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2012-03-01 08:27:28
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For the the school I used to go to, the current tuition for K-8th is:
For parishoners: 1 student 3,600, 2 students 6,240 3 students 8,650
for non-parishoners: 1 student 5,040, 2 students 8,720 3 students 12,100
per year

and they charge a registration fee of $250

I think it was around that same price when I went there. The school had a high school but it got closed down. I don't remember how much it was.
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By Odin.Airius 2012-03-01 08:28:18
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Nothing wrong with a parent wanting a higher education for their children. And yes, private schools do offer a chance at higher education because they do not hold the same restrictions that a public school does (no child left behind policy for instance). On the other hand, if this guy can't afford private school for 3 children on a salary of $350,000 he is spending way to much on other unnecessary things.

How does no child left behind hind an individual child's ability to learn? You just said you went to private school and it sounds like ya might be biased, idk. /shrug

How's this for biased: I come from a lower middle class family. I had to do work study and also get a part time job to help pay for my high school education. It took my dad an extra 4 years to pay off the remaining debt he owed to the school. I entered the private school coming from a public school background at the top of my classes taking all the toughest courses available and going into a private school i was barely able to keep up with the average student due to lack of subjects being covered in public schools. Fortunately for me I am a fast learner and was able to catch myself up due to smaller class sizes and, honestly, higher number of teachers who gave a crap.
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2012-03-01 08:29:30
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I don't know. The guy wasn't originally living beyond his means. He just lost some of his wages and because of it can't cover his full costs of living. The same thing happens on a smaller scale, yet we don't get angry at them like we do here: we feel sympathy for the guy who made $50,000 a year who lost his job and had to go to a minimum wage job for $20,000 a year yeah? But why not this guy? Is it just because he makes more money?

The rich guy should have been more careful with his money definitely, but I can argue the same thing about the person who makes 50k per year getting his salary cut in half. Sometimes, not living beyond your means just isn't enough, especially if you take a large pay cut.

Not to say I don't think he's stupid for some of the things he's complaining about(wet T-shirt contest? really? lol) but I think people are unfairly ganging up on him because he has more money. It doesn't do much other than make you guys look jealous(imo).
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-03-01 08:31:57
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How's this for biased: I come from a lower middle class family. I had to do work study and also get a part time job to help pay for my high school education. It took my dad an extra 4 years to pay off the remaining debt he owed to the school. I entered the private school coming from a public school background at the top of my classes taking all the toughest courses available and going into a private school i was barely able to keep up with the average student due to lack of subjects being covered in public schools. Fortunately for me I am a fast learner and was able to catch myself up due to smaller class sizes and, honestly, higher number of teachers who gave a crap.


And that literally answered NONE of my question lol
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By Odin.Airius 2012-03-01 08:38:34
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If you're referring to how does No child left behind hurt society, it's because it detracts from higher learning. School are told to enforce a bare minimum education requirement and anything beyond that is whatever the budget allows for. Putting this bill into effect took school money away from many sorts of higher learning (music, arts, advanced courses) and put it into mass testing that is still being pulled into question of what it is actually testing for.
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2012-03-01 08:38:36
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Funny thread. If you make more you spend more. If ya'll broke arses would put in some work maybe you could have some problems like these idiots! I got 99 problems but having money ain't one.

Huh??? If you make more, you spend more? What? No. If that was the case, maybe there wouldn't be so many bailouts and unemployment. You probably think by not taxing the rich the money will "trickle down." Get real. The rich get richer for a reason.

Fact of the matter is.....the rich have been getting over for quite some time now. You can call it "jelly" or "injustice" or whatever. But when you live in a world were the majority of the population can barely support themeselves or their families while there are people with waaaaay more than they need; something is bound to break. What really kills me is that these rich people couldnt have made their money without someone less fortunate busting their ***.

If you ask me, the problem should be to get rid of currency altogether and have a resourced based economy. Or just have a maximun wage. But thats another argument.....

You make more you spend more. That is the only fact and just lol at the rest of your post. /cracks open a PBR.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-03-01 08:42:47
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Odin.Airius said: »
If you're referring to how does No child left behind hurt society, it's because it detracts from higher learning. School are told to enforce a bare minimum education requirement and anything beyond that is whatever the budget allows for. Putting this bill into effect took school money away from many sorts of higher learning (music, arts, advanced courses) and put it into mass testing that is still being pulled into question of what it is actually testing for.


Again, not my question... I said an INDIVIDUAL. Since you said before that private schools allow for higher education. What is stopping a child in a public from going on the internet and learning more about a subject he had a discussion in class about? I'm sure his/her teacher would allow them to use a computer to gain more knowledge. But I guess We're getting off topic here. /shrug
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By Vudoku 2012-03-01 08:45:16
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Odin.Airius said: »
I know! maybe the communists had the right idea. Lets all do that since everything should be equal and everyone should get everything cause the world can work like that.
Making money with money at the expense of someone else is not capitalism, its greed, dumazz. Please dont start with the right wing idiocy of calling everything a SCARYname.
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By Fenrir.Hanabira 2012-03-01 08:45:42
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Ragnarok.Yathatguy said: »
Funny thread. If you make more you spend more. If ya'll broke arses would put in some work maybe you could have some problems like these idiots! I got 99 problems but having money ain't one.

thats funny considering generally, the hardest workers make the least amount of money
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By Odin.Airius 2012-03-01 08:47:27
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It hurts an individual because its taking away additional opportunities. Also you're assuming this child in a public school has internet access at home and also has the technical skills required to navigate the internet for said information. There are also many forms of education and also individual learning types who do much better when it is explained to them rather than self researched.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2012-03-01 08:48:20
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Funny thread. If you make more you spend more. If ya'll broke arses would put in some work maybe you could have some problems like these idiots! I got 99 problems but having money ain't one.
Huh??? If you make more, you spend more? What? No. If that was the case, maybe there wouldn't be so many bailouts and unemployment. You probably think by not taxing the rich the money will "trickle down." Get real. The rich get richer for a reason. Fact of the matter is.....the rich have been getting over for quite some time now. You can call it "jelly" or "injustice" or whatever. But when you live in a world were the majority of the population can barely support themeselves or their families while there are people with waaaaay more than they need; something is bound to break. What really kills me is that these rich people couldnt have made their money without someone less fortunate busting their ***. If you ask me, the problem should be to get rid of currency altogether and have a resourced based economy. Or just have a maximun wage. But thats another argument.....
You make more you spend more. That is the only fact and just lol at the rest of your post. /cracks open a PBR.


Not to the extent you are thinking. Where is all this "more money" at? You do realize if the money isnt being spent in THIS economy, it's a moot point? Like I said, trickle down does not work. Sounds good on paper, but in practice; just no. Kind of like the Red Skins.
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2012-03-01 08:54:07
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How the *** do you diss poor people while drinking PBR? Amazing.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2012-03-01 08:54:20
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Vudoku said: »
Odin.Airius said: »
I know! maybe the communists had the right idea. Lets all do that since everything should be equal and everyone should get everything cause the world can work like that.
Making money with money at the expense of someone else is not capitalism, its greed, dumazz. Please dont start with the right wing idiocy of calling everything a SCARYname.


^This

I am of the idea lately that most of the people who scream communism have no clue what it actually is. Maybe they should have paid attention in private school. lol
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