Apoc 5 Hit Build
Apoc 5 hit build
Just finished apoc and this is my cata set not sure if theres any upgrades i can make or if a stormsoul ring would be better than rajas. This is probably a stupid question but does the att+12 stack on multiple bomb cores? Havent seen anything to say it does or.it doesnt.
Odin.Creaucent said: »
Just finished apoc and this is my cata set not sure if theres am upgrades i can make or if a stormsoul ring would be better than rajas. This is probably a stupid question but does the att+12 stack on multiple bomb cores? Havent seen anything to say it does or.it doesnt.
It's a good question. Taint has a SS where he was talking about bomb cores, didn't know until now what he was referring to.
No, it's not a good question. They are clearly going to let you get 144 attack on your ammo.
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
No, it's not a good question. They are clearly going to let you get 144 attack on your ammo.
What the...!!! i really suck... /sadface
11bombcores is a LS joke from like 2005 lol.
Cerberus.Taint said: »
11bombcores is a LS joke from like 2005 lol.
Back when you could throw them and most people were lucky if they could afford one lol
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
Just finished apoc and this is my cata set not sure if theres any upgrades i can make or if a stormsoul ring would be better than rajas. This is probably a stupid question but does the att+12 stack on multiple bomb cores? Havent seen anything to say it does or.it doesnt.
Your set is ok. Plus, if you're /SAM and have 35 STP in TP set you need 4 hits to reach 100 after WS.
Also, i don't know if AGI or INT ring would do much to increase your dmg.
And no, bomb cores stacked won't increase your attack.
hi quick question i was wondering if the murzim corazza would be a good body to use?
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Murzim_Corazza
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Murzim_Corazza
If you really need the STP on body slot and don't have adaberk, probably.
But just as a temp piece.
I have'nt really looked into if it opens up any new builds with both stp and haste on the body slot, but haste is so easy to come by now that I really doubt it.
But just as a temp piece.
I have'nt really looked into if it opens up any new builds with both stp and haste on the body slot, but haste is so easy to come by now that I really doubt it.
Soooo, I downloaded a spreadsheet to play around with to compare my AM set to Taints, to see how big a difference rose strap vs non-rose strap sets are.
Taint set:
But I put Mala in there, as that did better.
My set:
Assuming DA+3 STP+6 on Taints set and DA+2 STP+5 in mine.
Mine actually seem to pull ahead by a very tiny margin on fodder, dyna DC and Pil, while his pulls ahead on Qilin and Bukhis?
If I use his arma berk in my set, that always pulls ahead.
Am I doing something wrong?
Because atm going for a rose strap seems completely wasted, seeing as there's a DA+3 grip I can use in my set when\if I ever get that.
Taint set:
But I put Mala in there, as that did better.
My set:
Assuming DA+3 STP+6 on Taints set and DA+2 STP+5 in mine.
Mine actually seem to pull ahead by a very tiny margin on fodder, dyna DC and Pil, while his pulls ahead on Qilin and Bukhis?
If I use his arma berk in my set, that always pulls ahead.
Am I doing something wrong?
Because atm going for a rose strap seems completely wasted, seeing as there's a DA+3 grip I can use in my set when\if I ever get that.
i never use rose for mine :\ granted I dont do a lot on drk where im not either getting vw regain or embrava outside of vw
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Soooo, I downloaded a spreadsheet to play around with to compare my AM set to Taints, to see how big a difference rose strap vs non-rose strap sets are. Taint set: But I put Mala in there, as that did better. My set: Assuming DA+3 STP+6 on Taints set and DA+2 STP+5 in mine. Mine actually seem to pull ahead by a very tiny margin on fodder, dyna DC and Pil, while his pulls ahead on Qilin and Bukhis? If I use his arma berk in my set, that always pulls ahead. Am I doing something wrong? Because atm going for a rose strap seems completely wasted, seeing as there's a DA+3 grip I can use in my set when\if I ever get that.
What content are you setting the spreadsheet for?
I use the same set he has there for situations my accuracy would be uncapped in my other set. I use my standard aftermath 5-hit for anything where acc is not an issue. I never gear for Qilin or Bukhis (or haven't in a long time) but his set would kill the ***out of the one you posted in Legion, or on Prov runs / etc. I tentatively refer to that set as "legion am" in my itemsets because of its situational useage.
The difference in acc is'nt that huge once you take dex into concideration, and that I can strap on fire bomblet aswell if needed.
Atm I just downloaded the spreadsheet, edited a few pieces of gear and used the mobs allready in the spreadsheet.
Atm I just downloaded the spreadsheet, edited a few pieces of gear and used the mobs allready in the spreadsheet.
Kvazz's set is actually (barely) more accurate if you add Fire Bomblet and Armadaberk. There's some places where Taint could add accuracy, but at that point you might as well rework the whole thing.
With fire bomblet in my set, and both set using Rancor, there's 8 acc difference using my taru DEX as base, so not devestating I'd say?
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
The difference in acc is'nt that huge once you take dex into concideration, and that I can strap on fire bomblet aswell if needed.
Atm I just downloaded the spreadsheet, edited a few pieces of gear and used the mobs allready in the spreadsheet.
Atm I just downloaded the spreadsheet, edited a few pieces of gear and used the mobs allready in the spreadsheet.
I'd use taint's set and swap rancor for mala
Edit: what if you use phorcys mitts/bomblet/ace's legging on taint's set?
Well that would remove the acc bonus, using my set with my NQ body on DC dyna mobs:
504.841 DPS
Taint set with those mods:
504.631 DPS
As soon as I choose the harder mobs, it pulls ahead.
If I put on ATK buffs, they become more or less equal again(373.233 mine vs 373.798 taints).
Once I make more evasive mobs, my set would pull ahead.
But I'm completely new to this spreadsheet so I might do ***wrong.
Edit:
Also, I'm not saying MINE IS BETTER or anything like that here, just putting up an alternative to see what people think and can bash\praise as much as they want, if that was'nt clear from initial post*
Edit2:
Another + from my set would be easier to obtain, as no HQ body needed and no rose strap needed (not like it's hard to get, just takes lots of time)
504.841 DPS
Taint set with those mods:
504.631 DPS
As soon as I choose the harder mobs, it pulls ahead.
If I put on ATK buffs, they become more or less equal again(373.233 mine vs 373.798 taints).
Once I make more evasive mobs, my set would pull ahead.
But I'm completely new to this spreadsheet so I might do ***wrong.
Edit:
Also, I'm not saying MINE IS BETTER or anything like that here, just putting up an alternative to see what people think and can bash\praise as much as they want, if that was'nt clear from initial post*
Edit2:
Another + from my set would be easier to obtain, as no HQ body needed and no rose strap needed (not like it's hard to get, just takes lots of time)
Where can i find this spreadsheet?
I used the one from here:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/28574/dps-spreadsheets/
If there's a new better one I should be aware of, please say so somebody :P
Edit: Change link to the forum thread where I found it first.
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/28574/dps-spreadsheets/
If there's a new better one I should be aware of, please say so somebody :P
Edit: Change link to the forum thread where I found it first.
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
I used the one from here:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/28574/dps-spreadsheets/
If there's a new better one I should be aware of, please say so somebody :P
Edit: Change link to the forum thread where I found it first.
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/28574/dps-spreadsheets/
If there's a new better one I should be aware of, please say so somebody :P
Edit: Change link to the forum thread where I found it first.
Thank you.
Virtually identical. One has more DA, one has more TA,QA. I have the acc coming out identical when you use fire bomblet. (armadaberk in both)
Str 158 172
Dex 127 138
Agi 94 94
Vit 121 121
Int 95 95
Mnd 99 99
HP 2812 2842
HPP 0% 0%
Total HP 2812 2842
Endark Recast # 16 16
Endark Att 37 37
Base Att 762 763
Base Acc 614 614
Edit: I used mala over rancor now
Str 158 172
Dex 127 138
Agi 94 94
Vit 121 121
Int 95 95
Mnd 99 99
HP 2812 2842
HPP 0% 0%
Total HP 2812 2842
Endark Recast # 16 16
Endark Att 37 37
Base Att 762 763
Base Acc 614 614
Edit: I used mala over rancor now
I cant get that spreadsheet to work at all nor does it seem to be updated since the one I saw only had 2 atmacite slots but how does this do DRK/war 6hit with embrava or coersion+monarch
could even drop the tyrant for mars/DAring and still get 88.2 tp from 6 swings (5+ws) and the 2 6 regain/tics
could even drop the tyrant for mars/DAring and still get 88.2 tp from 6 swings (5+ws) and the 2 6 regain/tics
Asura.Fondue said: »
I cant get that spreadsheet to work at all nor does it seem to be updated since the one I saw only had 2 atmacite slots but how does this do DRK/war 6hit with embrava or coersion+monarch
could even drop the tyrant for mars/DAring and still get 88.2 tp from 6 swings (5+ws) and the 2 6 regain/tics
could even drop the tyrant for mars/DAring and still get 88.2 tp from 6 swings (5+ws) and the 2 6 regain/tics
Good with Embrava up on weak enemies. I'd use it on Keggan, but not on Watcher. Maybe first wave Legion.
Something I've been trying to figure out is why people use Jingang legs instead of Bale +2 or something, am I missing something? It looked to me like Bale +2 is on par if not just above Jingang for Scythe.
I realise this is kinda off-topic, but I thought it'd be better to ask here than start an entirely new thread.
I realise this is kinda off-topic, but I thought it'd be better to ask here than start an entirely new thread.
Jingang legs where? On par with Bale+2 for what? The two should be used for completely different things.
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Jingang legs where? On par with Bale+2 for what? The two should be used for completely different things.
Care to elaborate? I was talking for DDing with Scythe.
Jingang legs:
STR+7 VIT+7 Haste+3
Decent in a TP setup.
Bale legs +2:
STR+12 ACC\ATK+15 or whatever it is
You'd use Jingang in a TP setup and Bale for weaponskills.
So, only place you should really compare the two would be Torcleaver set, and maybe some form of gimp Apocalypse aftermath set that would require Jingang legs.
STR+7 VIT+7 Haste+3
Decent in a TP setup.
Bale legs +2:
STR+12 ACC\ATK+15 or whatever it is
You'd use Jingang in a TP setup and Bale for weaponskills.
So, only place you should really compare the two would be Torcleaver set, and maybe some form of gimp Apocalypse aftermath set that would require Jingang legs.
Cerberus.Taint said: »
I used mala over rancor now
Grats!
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Jingang legs:
STR+7 VIT+7 Haste+3
Decent in a TP setup.
Bale legs +2:
STR+12 ACC\ATK+15 or whatever it is
You'd use Jingang in a TP setup and Bale for weaponskills.
So, only place you should really compare the two would be Torcleaver set, and maybe some form of gimp Apocalypse aftermath set that would require Jingang legs.
STR+7 VIT+7 Haste+3
Decent in a TP setup.
Bale legs +2:
STR+12 ACC\ATK+15 or whatever it is
You'd use Jingang in a TP setup and Bale for weaponskills.
So, only place you should really compare the two would be Torcleaver set, and maybe some form of gimp Apocalypse aftermath set that would require Jingang legs.
So, should I really bother with Jingang?
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