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 Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-07 16:03:33
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Its not like Rose strap became good last week. It has been a staple item for melee to have for 5 years.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-07 20:55:05
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Not for the job I used till now bro, ur not talkin with an idiot, if ive ever needed it I would have it.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-07 21:16:01
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
Could have been working on Rose at the same time you worked on Apoc.

Shameful.
Started apoc 10 days ago :S
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-12-07 21:18:48
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Just get it you won't regret it.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-07 21:21:37
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Yeah and Ill work on that fkin strap lol
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-31 18:04:05
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Someone check my math on this build:

LR,Haste,Marchx2
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Apocalypse (99)
Duplus Grip
Hagneia
Bale +2
Ganesha's Mala
Brutal
Kokou
Valk Breastplate
Ogier
Rajas
Tyrant
Atheling
Windbuffet
Ker
Phorcys






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Apocalypse (99)
Duplus Grip
Hagneia
Twilight
Gorget
Brutal
Bale
Phorcys
Ogier
Rajas
Spiral
Atheling
Ele.Belt
Ogier
Bale +2
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-31 18:09:04
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is mine. Only have to WS in hagneia and rajas.
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-12-31 18:42:23
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only eaten carb for months on drk, tarulegion without the hp is just terrible and the stp is a nice byproduct
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-31 18:53:00
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Ramuh.Austar said: »


is mine. Only have to WS in hagneia and rajas.


Nice set, I have that edging out the one I posted by just a touch on mid to high mobs.

(how the hell do you have 3 pieces of Salvage+1 gear already?lol)

I'll play with Carb sets next.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-31 18:57:30
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Apoc is on a friend's character turned mule.
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By Siren.Hyabusa 2012-12-31 19:04:54
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Hopefully not to derail but, question to the career DRKs who did Apoc first: did you ever regret it for a second instead of rag?

Not trying to start a flame war but I'm finally taking up the task of making my first relic and I'm torn. I do a SHITLOAD of low man stuff but I also love fatty numbers so much. Both weapons would stroke my e-peen and I have access to any gear short of Legion(no salvage stuff either yet because I just don't care to do it, but I could get it if it was build make/break).
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By Fenrir.Evildemon 2012-12-31 19:12:09
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From what one of my friends was telling me he uses his apoc more but I guess its just personal preference. I've considered doing a ragnarok but its not my play style and i'd rather build relics for jobs I don't have one on.
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2013-01-01 00:27:01
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It really depends on what you like, doesn't really matter what is better, each has its use. A good player will make each shine in any situation, the difference is really too small to go against what you like.
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By Ragnarok.Legendarycloud 2013-01-02 18:18:19
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So for the sake of including Enif Corazza in some of the Apoc sets, I came up with these sets. How do they compare to the ideal set ups?

TP (20.5% tp per hit) -- way over haste cap lol



Catastrophe (17.7% tp return)



AM (21.2% tp per hit)

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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2013-01-02 18:29:21
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Need Kokou's Earring in first set to 5hit (from WS)
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By Shiva.Zykei 2013-01-02 18:42:09
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The first set you can go Ogier gauntlet+Phos(+1)+phorcys Schuhs and gain 6acc/3DA
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By Ragnarok.Legendarycloud 2013-01-02 18:46:49
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But then you lose the chance at a set proc, but I think you'd be right that the 6acc/3DA would be a nice tradeoff.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2013-01-02 22:48:24
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Set bonus for two pieces is equivalent to 1% ODD if you're at max HP, less otherwise. 3 DA is far and away a better choice.
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By Ragnarok.Legendarycloud 2013-01-02 23:43:45
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Ah okay wasn't sure on that. But replacing with those two pieces would only be 23% haste, unless I counted wrong?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2013-01-03 00:25:05
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Yeah, with the suggested swaps you'd be at 23% haste so the current set would be better.
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2013-01-03 12:50:58
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »


is mine. Only have to WS in hagneia and rajas.


Nice set, I have that edging out the one I posted by just a touch on mid to high mobs.

(how the hell do you have 3 pieces of Salvage+1 gear already?lol)

I'll play with Carb sets next.

Out of time restraint and impatience, let me ask here instead of counting the STP: Taint + Austar, would a 5STP Hauberk cut it in that set?
And may I ask what a Carb set is? =)
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-01-03 12:54:22
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Carb = Carbonara, I'm guessing. (STP food)
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-01-03 12:59:41
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Cerberus.Keyoku said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »


is mine. Only have to WS in hagneia and rajas.


Nice set, I have that edging out the one I posted by just a touch on mid to high mobs.

(how the hell do you have 3 pieces of Salvage+1 gear already?lol)

I'll play with Carb sets next.

Out of time restraint and impatience, let me ask here instead of counting the STP: Taint + Austar, would a 5STP Hauberk cut it in that set?
And may I ask what a Carb set is? =)


You can add Kokou's earring to Austar's set or you can just WS in 6-7 more stp.

My set used Valk body, but you could swap in Ebody.
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2013-01-03 13:06:02
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Kokou's' a great idea. Thanks for the quick reply there, both of ya.
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2013-01-06 13:30:45
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Hopefully not to derail but, question to the career DRKs who did Apoc first: did you ever regret it for a second instead of rag?

Taint and I are probably some of the oldest on these boards with Apoc that probably still play and I can say I have never regretted it one bit. I always tell someone that is trying to choose, Ragnarok is an awesome weapon, but with all that damage you do comes great responsibility with walking the line between hate and death. What good are you to a low man set if you are dead. Apoc is just Apoc, nothing more needs to be said. In the end it is up to you and your own play style and what you feel more comfortable using more.

Ashman asked me the same question and he got the same answer.
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By Otomis 2013-01-16 20:43:20
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Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
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Hopefully not to derail but, question to the career DRKs who did Apoc first: did you ever regret it for a second instead of rag?

Taint and I are probably some of the oldest on these boards with Apoc that probably still play and I can say I have never regretted it one bit. I always tell someone that is trying to choose, Ragnarok is an awesome weapon, but with all that damage you do comes great responsibility with walking the line between hate and death. What good are you to a low man set if you are dead. Apoc is just Apoc, nothing more needs to be said. In the end it is up to you and your own play style and what you feel more comfortable using more.

Ashman asked me the same question and he got the same answer.


Agree'd. Made the OAT gs for reso but more often then not only good for WS spam in things like VW. Always been in love with Apoc. I guess I just love the diverse nature of Drk and apoc is a good marriage of that.
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By Otomis 2013-01-16 20:46:50
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XML: Mithra 12/12 Dex+Str Normal Quality buffs no brd/cor.
/Sam 5-Hit ~ Carbonara: AM

Apocalypse (99)
Duplus Grip
Anger Bomblet
Bale +2
Ganesha's Mala
Brutal
Kokou
Adaman Haub. (6STP 3% DA)
Ogier
Rajas
Strigoi
Atheling
Windbuffet
Ares +1
Ace's Leggings

286.95 DPS



Apocalypse (99)
Pole Grip
Hagneia
Twilight
Gorget
Bale
Brutal
Phorcys
Phorcys
Spiral
Rajas
Atheling
Ele.Belt
Ogier
Bale +2

1943 WS

Highest DPS set up I could come up with: only thing is would have to use carb food to make it work.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2013-01-17 05:56:56
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Otomis said: »
Highest DPS set up I could come up with: only thing is would have to use carb food to make it work.
Use Tactical Mantle, eat better food. Put together an Entropy set too, which will be way easier to WS in decent gear for more damage and keep your 5-hit going.
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By Otomis 2013-01-17 09:37:21
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No matter how you do the math, even is using RCB and using Hag(ammo) Tyrant(Ring) to make up for the STP 99 apoc using Cata with AM set is higher then using strictly entropy. Even if you use Cata first then use AM set while using entropy they would break even. Since the max damage entropy set would only come out about 100 damage higher per WS on higher end content? So not sure what your getting at Raelia unless just trolling lol.
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