Apoc 5 Hit Build

didnt see what you were replying to D: wonder how it will be getting the different sets of gear, is the 2% QA on par with a perfectly augmented valk breastplate?

The STP on a 4% haste body will easily outweigh 2% QA, which all things considered might as well be thought of like ~5% DA (roughly the same losses and whatnot in context).

The Murzim Body and Ogier's Gauntlets could push 5-hit OAT into viability. I was toying with a Carbonara-munching 4-hit Apoc concept last week that might be fun to explore again.

Murzim body pretty easily beats Enif body for any DRK.

People are using Porthos Byrnie?

asura is the porthos byrnie mecca

Mecca? Call in the airstrikes, time to glass the server.

also utterly lost on voidwatch sets atm just got drk to 99 yesterday, assuming 8% haste off valiant/latitude.. this works out to needing 2 tics of 5/tic regain with coercion to 5hit but if you put on rose+hagiena it needs 1 tic of regain and I think you can ws in 5str/bomblet w/e


drk/sam aftermath

You'll end up getting two ticks anyways, you'll get one during WS animation and most likely one on the way to 100 TP.

well assuming 2 tics and monarch is always up you only need to land 1 swing after the first on entropy for that to be a 5hit, what improvements could be made there?

Dunno, I don't play Drk, was just saying you'll end up getting two ticks anyways, so I'd gear for two ticks.

Hagneia stone during tp phase = 18.6tp/hit return

Atmacite of Discipline plus Miser's roll:
18.6 * 3 + 45= 100.8

wouldnt even need hag with 1 monarch tic :o dont need tyrants either, rajas+brutal+6stp armadaberk with xi miser would be 97.8tp

havent gotten misers or put on discipline in ages though

Not sure how STR+11 DEX+11 Accuracy+16 Attack+16 Evasion-11 w/ "Store TP" +6, "Double Attack" +3% (insert other random augment you might have gotten here) is replaced by this: HP+53 MP+53 Attack+15 "Store TP"+6 Haste+4%......

Yus.

why did everyone stop using dicipline and misers? whats the difference now vs chaos/fighters with accompanying jobs in party? so many questions

People just like big numbers that's it , in VW chaos/miser's plus latitude/disciple/valiant imo but that's just me

Murzim Corazza
DEF:75 HP+53 MP+53 Attack+15
"Store TP"+6 Haste+4%
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Enif Gambieras
DEF:29 HP+48 MP+48 Accuracy+6
Attack+6 Ranged Accuracy+6
Haste+4% Wyvern: HP+80
+


20.8 each swing , and /sam required would only need rajas and brutal during ws ofcourse you must land the first plus another hit for a return of 16.9 tp which will allow you to 5 hit, 26% haste.

TP in askar and homam stuff at the same, gonna look like the most confused 75 player ever :D

Huh. Small world:



I forget if it was proper, but same thing with about 23 more accuracy.

Rose strap wryy :(
Still lowest campaign rank sup.

Well neither of you are using Mala, which is better even if it drops your hit build. Even then, your build w/mala is barely ahead of a standard Armadaberk build and that assumes capped accuracy/attack.

Armadaberk build is well, well, well ahead when mobs change from trash to untrash.

Mala does not exist.

As for my oat 5hit build, I very very rarely use that thing :P
Mostly just for fun :D

well gearing without misers/dicipline in mind, how are these two sets for vw

drk/sam am DOWN


drk/sam am up


coercion/latitude/valiant 8%gear haste and 5/tic regain ?

What kind of atmas would you use in abyssea when using a Apoc? I've been trying out harvester/stoutarm/vv but I don't know if this is a good setup.

rr/apoc/vv?

rr/apoc/griffin claw

I still have a habbit for avoiding ruby, I usually use RR/GH/Apoc. its usually over 90% crit and just tears thru mobs with out ws.

Griffin claw? Tried looking it up and on my list, can't find a atma called that.

I'm looking for a bit of both actually xD.

I get moaned at all the time for rubying whenever I'm helping someone, I'm looking for one that can deal a good amount of dmg really.

RR/Apoc/AandO
RR/Apoc/GH

so how will Enif Corazza fair in comparison to Armada/Valk with full buffs?

EDIT: Enif has Acc +23/ Quadruple attack +2% as its relevant stats

Depends on if you have a Valkyrie's Breastplate with a 3% triple attack augment which means the 3% triple attack will get 1 more swing then the 2% QA. Also the Valkyrie's gets some str dex, and pending on augments a really nice chunk of accuracy as well. The main difference between the 2 is the haste on the body which pending on what route you take your Apoc drk the haste can be irrelevant. As for the Armadaberk, it has a huge fan base cause of the store tp/da/str/acc/att , but with as many options of gear out there now you can get away with not needing that perfect augment to get a 5 hit build that is still sexy.

All in all i crunched numbers all morning since my update took forever, Enif is a nice body for tp build if you do not own a Valk. Breastplate specially since i feel SE will make it quite obtainable. New gear always is. As for the numbers Valkyrie body won with more swings, more attack, more str and equal accuracy w/o including augments.

Also on my server phantasmal tatters are 100k a piece so to get a HQ3 with the lucky 3% might be a bit more pricey then going for enif. For those people that talk about its pointless armada is better. As for the armadaberk you are dealing with the same thing got to get lucky on an augment. I feel with as many options out there currently armadaberk is just a piece that can give you different options to play with hands/feet/legs and such, but if you rather play around with those slots you can get ogier gauntlets and opens up freedom to play with many different variable pieces.

All 3 options as long as you know how to manage your gear are great tp bodies btw.