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 Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-11-05 12:47:43
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I made a fair assumption. You farmed in 4 months? Sell 3 runs worth of currency and buy it. Can't afford tyrant's, then settle for hoard for now. Even if you don't have mala then wear rancor at a minimum.

It's not necessarily a matter of wallet anyhow. Sometimes it's priorities.


Either way i didn't mean it to sound condescending or insulting. I just meant it as "you can obtain things that are worth over 100m in currency that you could potentially sell". Something under 7 digits doesn't really qualify as unattainable anymore.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-11-05 14:00:05
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In order to add something constructive, here is the body order for an easy mob.
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Level	96
pDif Correction	0
Defense	435
Def Down Tier	4
Final Def	348
Evasion	404
Vit	85
Agi	90


Capped haste, embrava (500 skill), capped att, capped acc, 0 lvl correction

Apoc/Rag DPS

Valk (3ta) 599/769
Enif 596/765
Armada (3da) 595/766
Shadow (2ta) 594/762
Avant+1 594/761
Adaman 592/758
Porthos 590/757
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By Odin.Creaucent 2012-11-05 14:34:39
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
I made a fair assumption. You farmed in 4 months? Sell 3 runs worth of currency and buy it. Can't afford tyrant's, then settle for hoard for now. Even if you don't have mala then wear rancor at a minimum.

It's not necessarily a matter of wallet anyhow. Sometimes it's priorities.


Either way i didn't mean it to sound condescending or insulting. I just meant it as "you can obtain things that are worth over 100m in currency that you could potentially sell". Something under 7 digits doesn't really qualify as unattainable anymore.

Would have farmed dyna but ADL group is taking up the days i dont work for dyna and the days i do work i dont have time to play at all.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-11-05 14:39:58
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
In order to add something constructive, here is the body order for an easy mob.
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Level	96
pDif Correction	0
Defense	435
Def Down Tier	4
Final Def	348
Evasion	404
Vit	85
Agi	90


Capped haste, embrava (500 skill), capped att, capped acc, 0 lvl correction

Apoc/Rag DPS

Valk (3ta) 599/769
Enif 596/765
Armada (3da) 595/766
Shadow (2ta) 594/762
Avant+1 594/761
Adaman 592/758
Porthos 590/757
can really appreciate this, puts in good perspective! looks like i need to get on my earthen tatters and get away from porthos... was hoping it was atleast worth something with the options the extra haste opened up under haste cap (for rag atleast)
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-11-05 15:06:36
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
In order to add something constructive, here is the body order for an easy mob.
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Level	96
pDif Correction	0
Defense	435
Def Down Tier	4
Final Def	348
Evasion	404
Vit	85
Agi	90


Capped haste, embrava (500 skill), capped att, capped acc, 0 lvl correction

Apoc/Rag DPS

Valk (3ta) 599/769
Enif 596/765
Armada (3da) 595/766
Shadow (2ta) 594/762
Avant+1 594/761
Adaman 592/758
Porthos 590/757
can really appreciate this, puts in good perspective! looks like i need to get on my earthen tatters and get away from porthos... was hoping it was atleast worth something with the options the extra haste opened up under haste cap (for rag atleast)


Is Porthos was 6% it would bump up a couple notches (on fodder), but 5% haste doesn't change anything worthwhile around.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-11-05 15:49:38
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so my take away from all this (in my case at least)
tp
am
cata
magic/ja haste cap

all assuming 6stp on armada hauberk
next real step up is p body since enif is so close

rag is still its own animal, and apoc will have looooooots of other builds (yay drk tank)
*side note: soil gorget/belt is the only set that works for entropy, catastrophe and resolution
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By Sylph.Rafaras 2012-11-27 08:45:13
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Whats a good TP and WS sets for a Apoc user without any NNI gear.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-11-27 08:56:19
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Sylph.Rafaras said: »
Whats a good TP and WS sets for a Apoc user without any NNI gear.
see page 1

also, try get nni gear
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-11-27 08:58:06
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I would say the first page of this thread up to wulfie's "updated sets with NNI" post (about halfway down) is still pretty accurate.

*edit* beaten :<
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-11-29 20:29:20
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Is rose strap a must?
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2012-11-29 20:41:24
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Yes I would get one.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-11-30 09:50:02
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Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Is rose strap a must?
yep, any variation that doesnt include it you sacrifice more in another slot than its worth, trust me i did alot of work because i wanted to use pole/new 3da grip

well except the going-away-in-a-month embrava zergs, then pole grip or other options are just fine
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-06 08:43:17
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Cause I never gave a fuk about campaign so Im like 2nd medal would take years to get one <.<

Well while I get Rose Strap any1 can show me an aftermath set with Pole?
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-06 08:46:02
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
so my take away from all this (in my case at least)
tp
am
cata
magic/ja haste cap

all assuming 6stp on armada hauberk
next real step up is p body since enif is so close

rag is still its own animal, and apoc will have looooooots of other builds (yay drk tank)
*side note: soil gorget/belt is the only set that works for entropy, catastrophe and resolution
Why not keeping Bale head and change bale hands with ogiers in AM ?
And Anger Bomblet in haste cap set
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-12-06 09:45:05
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since 90% of your time in a long fight will be in am gear, it's counter productive to remove 6% of your haste for 3% double attack

also, my sets are acc centric, meaning you could run thru legion with little or no changes from those sets

edit: oh and those are the sets i actually had, hence the lack of anger bomblet, tho to be fair it wouldnt make much difference since complete haste cap will always involve fodder mobs (nni) or extreme buffs most likely including fighters roll
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-12-06 09:50:53
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wat
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-12-06 09:53:01
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.

Edit:
Oh wait, I somehow thought that was a brava set. Nvm me >_>

Edit2:
As I have no Rose Strap (lowest rank + lazy)



This is what I use.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-06 11:02:38
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How much stp u have on the adaman?
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2012-12-06 11:27:17
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without rose strap you need 35 stp in tp set as /sam (50 total) 34 stp with rose strap so atleast 4 stp on adaberk/armaberk based on his build
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-06 11:34:18
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Windbuffet+Bale Hands > Bale Head + Ogiers

Ogier hands are for your Storage moogle, unless you have Huginn feet.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-12-06 11:57:04
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Windbuffet+Bale Hands > Bale Head + Ogiers

Ogier hands are for your Storage moogle, unless you have Huginn feet.

Or is a gimp without rose strap! :3

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Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
How much stp u have on the adaman?
5stp\2da
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-12-06 12:25:29
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You should have started on rose strap since the last time you said it was too long, you'd probably have it by now :/
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-12-06 12:27:49
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Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Cause I never gave a fuk about campaign so Im like 2nd medal would take years to get one <.<

Well while I get Rose Strap any1 can show me an aftermath set with Pole?

5 or 6 months for sure if you're doing campaign every 10 days.

Edit : I don't remember the cool down time.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-12-06 12:46:11
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It's 5. Any DD who hasn't done WotG should. You can spend like...20 mins a day on pretty much ANY 99 job and solo most if not all of the missions (apoc drk soloing multi-nm burning circles makes you feel like a god even if it is 75 content.... fun fun). If youre campaigning at the same time (aegis storm 3+ while campaigning as drk never failed to rank me up after anything 20 mins+) you should have no problems.

The nice thing about finishing wotg is after youre done youll never rank down in campaign.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-06 15:20:31
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And EVERY melee should have a TPbonus moonshade, so WotG isn't optional, might as well rank up as you do the missions.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-07 05:30:55
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Who said I didnt finish wotg? Im talkin about campaign ranks.
Anyways what about these sets while I work on strap:

TP


AM


Cata


Entropy


Armada has 6stp 3da 4sb
Anything Enif Corazza goes in?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-12-07 07:16:56
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Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Who said I didnt finish wotg? Im talkin about campaign ranks. Anyways what about these sets while I work on strap: TP AM Cata Entropy Armada has 6stp 3da 4sb Anything Enif Corazza goes in?

You're going to be short STP (or overkill) on the first two sets because you took my 5-hits and just swapped out rose strap for pole grip.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-07 09:40:19
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Its a 5.1 hit. lol
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-12-07 10:16:44
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Guess I did something wrong with stp calculator then <.< So what? I have to tp in salade?
Anyways I still didnt check ur xml ash, not untill I close apoc at least. I just tried to make em myself with the calculator, guess I failed lol
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-12-07 12:10:30
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Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Guess I did something wrong with stp calculator then <.< So what? I have to tp in salade?
Anyways I still didnt check ur xml ash, not untill I close apoc at least. I just tried to make em myself with the calculator, guess I failed lol

I think taint is also counting the tp return on cata, in that case you're a little bit short from 5 hitting. That's why you should get rose strap or ws with tyrant ring instead of spiral ring.
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