khidafi916 said: »
lol you dident reply to my question... do you still believe in the easter bunny....
I don't entertain children.
How Christians Can Make The World A Better Place
How Christians can Make the World a Better Place
I don't entertain children.
well you must be if you be if you believe in ghost and santa and all that
If only man didn't make the bible thus making it fallible. 90% of what is in the bible is a testimony of people saying random *** ***is this way cause of "divine powers" Jesus walking on water, turning water into wine, yadda yadda. ***most religions are just tweaked and say what they want cause they didn't like the current "popular religion and beliefs". Also look at a certain philosopher who challenged the bible and was correct in his findings.. What did they do to him? Made him take his own life. There is a reason it's called having faith..... you have it or ya don't.
You can't change a persons views on things that have been ingrained on them since they were children (which is their most influential rationalization and growth period as far as how the world works). Nor can you tell a man who's had his entire family murdered for no apparent reason that god does exist.
Now what I said is mostly off the christian belief, though I did add a quick one in their about religions in general. So I'll just say that for any religious believer whether they are in a so called "cult", or the popular main streams, why waste your time to go out of your way to tell them it's the truth and there is nothing else. Vice-Verse, unless of course it's like the cult that died in all nike clothes after chopping their genitals off. Also any faith that says to harm some one of yourself is just silly. Jahova's... I'm sorry you are in that same category as Scientology....
Now some one is gonna rant and get mad over what I posted. Sorry not meaning to, so much as show that anything for or against a belief is going to piss some one off. To discuss it with them is just a waste of time. If you are into religion (of any sort) then you know you will get flamed for posting it here or any site that isn't about that religion. Same for those who are the opposite.
*Bold is where I changed some things. I was thinking at 100mph and didn't even bother to check it. Sorry
You can't change a persons views on things that have been ingrained on them since they were children (which is their most influential rationalization and growth period as far as how the world works). Nor can you tell a man who's had his entire family murdered for no apparent reason that god does exist.
Now what I said is mostly off the christian belief, though I did add a quick one in their about religions in general. So I'll just say that for any religious believer whether they are in a so called "cult", or the popular main streams, why waste your time to go out of your way to tell them it's the truth and there is nothing else. Vice-Verse, unless of course it's like the cult that died in all nike clothes after chopping their genitals off. Also any faith that says to harm some one of yourself is just silly. Jahova's... I'm sorry you are in that same category as Scientology....
Now some one is gonna rant and get mad over what I posted. Sorry not meaning to, so much as show that anything for or against a belief is going to piss some one off. To discuss it with them is just a waste of time. If you are into religion (of any sort) then you know you will get flamed for posting it here or any site that isn't about that religion. Same for those who are the opposite.
*Bold is where I changed some things. I was thinking at 100mph and didn't even bother to check it. Sorry
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EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
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MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
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MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
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Stuff like that.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
=====================
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
=====================
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
====================
Stuff like that.
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
If only man didn't make the bible thus making it fallible. 90% of what is in the bible is a testimony of people saying random *** ***is this way cause of "divine powers" Jesus walking on water, turning water into wine, yadda yadda. ***most religions are just tweaked and say what they want cause they didn't like the current "popular religion and beliefs". Also look at a certain philosopher who challenged the bible and was correct in his findings.. What did they do to him? Made him take his own life. There is a reason it's called having faith..... you have it or ya don't.
You can't change a persons views on things that have been ingrained on them since they were children (which is their most influential rationalization and growth period as far as how the world works). Nor can you tell a man who's had his entire family murdered for no apparent reason that god does exist.
Now what I said is mostly off the christian belief, though I did add a quick one in their about religions in general. So I'll just say that for any religious believer whether they are in a so called "cult", or the popular main streams, why waste your time to go out of your way to tell them it's wrong. Unless of course it's like the cult that died in all nike clothes after chopping their genitals off. Also any faith that says to harm some one of yourself is just silly. Jahova's... I'm sorry you are in that same category as Scientology....
Now some one is gonna rant and get mad over what I posted. Sorry not meaning to, so much as show that anything for or against a belief is going to piss some one off. To discuss it with them is just a waste of time. If you are into religion (of any sort) then you know you will get flamed for posting it here or any site that isn't about that religion. Same for those who are the opposite.
You can't change a persons views on things that have been ingrained on them since they were children (which is their most influential rationalization and growth period as far as how the world works). Nor can you tell a man who's had his entire family murdered for no apparent reason that god does exist.
Now what I said is mostly off the christian belief, though I did add a quick one in their about religions in general. So I'll just say that for any religious believer whether they are in a so called "cult", or the popular main streams, why waste your time to go out of your way to tell them it's wrong. Unless of course it's like the cult that died in all nike clothes after chopping their genitals off. Also any faith that says to harm some one of yourself is just silly. Jahova's... I'm sorry you are in that same category as Scientology....
Now some one is gonna rant and get mad over what I posted. Sorry not meaning to, so much as show that anything for or against a belief is going to piss some one off. To discuss it with them is just a waste of time. If you are into religion (of any sort) then you know you will get flamed for posting it here or any site that isn't about that religion. Same for those who are the opposite.
I don't see anything wrong with what you said, it's how the topic should be approached by both sides. I have no intentions or delusions that someone reading this thread is going to say "hey, I am wrong, random dude on the internet said so."
khidafi916 said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
=====================
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
=====================
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
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Stuff like that.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
=====================
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
=====================
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
====================
Stuff like that.
Give me some time to look them all up and read them in a several versions of the Bible. I will address them all for better or for worse.
Ragnarok.Evandis said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
=====================
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
=====================
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
====================
Stuff like that.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
=====================
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
=====================
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
====================
Stuff like that.
Give me some time to look them all up and read them in a several versions of the Bible. I will address them all for better or for worse.
Rq if I might add, that's my beef with the bible... why is it always being changed... the original was lost some where in god knows what time.... plus the only ones who could read it were the clergy at that time.
P.S. I made a funny in there =3
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Ragnarok.Evandis said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
=====================
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
=====================
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
====================
Stuff like that.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
=====================
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
=====================
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
=====================
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
====================
Stuff like that.
Give me some time to look them all up and read them in a several versions of the Bible. I will address them all for better or for worse.
Rq if I might add, that's my beef with the bible... why is it always being changed... the original was lost some where in god knows what time.... plus the only ones who could read it were the clergy at that time.
P.S. I made a funny in there =3
Simple, and you can ask anyone who translates foreign or ancient languages, a lot of words have several different meanings based on context. Unless you compare them all and make your best educated understanding at what the true intent of the passage, then you will just take whatever version is presented to you.
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Exodus 15:3 Is now translated as "The Lord is a warrior," rather than a man of war or Lord of war.
The actual passage in hebrew cannot be directly translated, the meaning of it is that God knows how to fight and defeat his enemies. The passage that directly follows it is referring to God casting the chariots of the Pharaoh and his arm into the sea.
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They are both correct. Jacob is Joseph's biological father. Heli is his father-in-law, during those times the father-in-law takes the son-in-law as his own.
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This seems to be a hebrew translation error as well, I have to read more on it before I can address it.
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The above if for Xueye.
As far as the Psalms and Isaiah one, they are completely unrelated, not sure where the contradiction is from.
Ragnarok.Evandis said: »
As far as the Psalms and Isaiah one, they are completely unrelated, not sure where the contradiction is from.
Righteous flourish, righteous perish. You can't explain that /bill-o'reilly-joke
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Ragnarok.Evandis said: »
As far as the Psalms and Isaiah one, they are completely unrelated, not sure where the contradiction is from.
Righteous flourish, righteous perish. You can't explain that /bill-o'reilly-joke
Sure I can. Since both are ripped completely out of context and compared with each other when they are referring to two different things.
Isaiah is a commentary on how as good people die, no one cars because of how foolish and sinful they are. That the righteous die from this Earth to be saved from it's evil and join the Lord.
The other is talking about how the righteous will flourish in the afterlife while the unrighteous will not.
I can't wait till we find out that this guy was right all along.
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Caitsith.Sai said: »
I can't wait till we find out that this guy was right all along.
He is cute, is he single?
I'm gonna post in this thread
to say im resisting the urge to post in this thread
that is all
to say im resisting the urge to post in this thread
that is all
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Xueye, I won't quote your questions about contradictions in the Bible, as it would make for a wall of text; however, I would like to address them.
First, you said something about due to the contradictions, what parts should we accept, and what should we write off as fallacy due to error. I think the entirety of the Bible has useful information in it. The differences in it show different things. Like many of the commandments of old, that we are not to follow anymore (cutting off a hand that steals for instance), those are a reminder of how harsh things once were. They are a reminder of how obsessed with possessions people can become, knowing the punishment yet still committing the crime. It is to show that the things of the world are not worth endangering ourselves, or hurting others to obtain.
That should cover most of the basis of people saying "well if you were to REALLY follow the Bible fully". Some of it isn't there for us to follow verbatim, it is more or less a history lesson and a juxtaposition for us to be grateful of how far we've come.
As for this particular example you showed: The one of righteous men flourishing, then later of them perishing. The former is speaking of eternal flourishing, meaning a righteous man (woman) has gifts and greatness that cannot be taken away. They are God given.
The latter speaks of righteous men perishing from this physical realm. Their life or liberty being taken away here, and no one paying it much attention. It is a warning to be mindful of things going on around us, and to stand up for justice and fairness, truth and kindness.
I understand that many of the contradictions aren't so easily explained, but again, I feel as though they are often to serve a different purpose from one another.
First, you said something about due to the contradictions, what parts should we accept, and what should we write off as fallacy due to error. I think the entirety of the Bible has useful information in it. The differences in it show different things. Like many of the commandments of old, that we are not to follow anymore (cutting off a hand that steals for instance), those are a reminder of how harsh things once were. They are a reminder of how obsessed with possessions people can become, knowing the punishment yet still committing the crime. It is to show that the things of the world are not worth endangering ourselves, or hurting others to obtain.
That should cover most of the basis of people saying "well if you were to REALLY follow the Bible fully". Some of it isn't there for us to follow verbatim, it is more or less a history lesson and a juxtaposition for us to be grateful of how far we've come.
As for this particular example you showed: The one of righteous men flourishing, then later of them perishing. The former is speaking of eternal flourishing, meaning a righteous man (woman) has gifts and greatness that cannot be taken away. They are God given.
The latter speaks of righteous men perishing from this physical realm. Their life or liberty being taken away here, and no one paying it much attention. It is a warning to be mindful of things going on around us, and to stand up for justice and fairness, truth and kindness.
I understand that many of the contradictions aren't so easily explained, but again, I feel as though they are often to serve a different purpose from one another.
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Oh, to add to the Lord is one of war and one of peace.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
Odin.Daemun said: »
Oh, to add to the Lord is one of war and one of peace.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
Christians can make the world a better place by becoming atheists. End of thread; move on.
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Bismarck.Helel said: »
Christian's can make the world a better place by becoming atheists. End of thread; move on.
Haven't heard that one before. You have completely convinced me.
Asura.Rekin said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Oh, to add to the Lord is one of war and one of peace.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
Bismarck.Helel said: »
Christian's can make the world a better place by becoming atheists. End of thread; move on.
Odin.Daemun said: »
Asura.Rekin said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Oh, to add to the Lord is one of war and one of peace.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
Hmmm. OP, let me ask. How long exactly have you been a person who believes in Christ?
Some of your statements lead me to believe that you are perhaps a more recent convert. Less than 2 years perhaps? (Of course I may be way off)
I ask because your earlier mistake about Peter/Paul and now your statement here in response to Rekin makes it seem that you may not have the best knowledge of the Bible.
In this case, Rekin is talking about the story of Moses/Joshua and the Hebrews being freed from Egypt and then invading the land of Canan, all done under direct orders of God.
Caitsith.Sai said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Asura.Rekin said: »
Odin.Daemun said: »
Oh, to add to the Lord is one of war and one of peace.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
The Lord of war is talking about the war against evil (sin). He is just and in being so, He distastes and destroys evil. He wants us to be just and to try to eradicate evil in our own lives.
For the Lord of peace, it is talking of His will for mankind. He does not want us to bicker and fight with one another. Not over land, not over differences of origin, not over difference of beliefs. We are to make peace with one another and show love and kindness to one another. This ties in closely with the "love the sinner, hate the sin". It doesn't matter how different people are, we should love them for who they are.
Hmmm. OP, let me ask. How long exactly have you been a person who believes in Christ?
Some of your statements lead me to believe that you are perhaps a more recent convert. Less than 2 years perhaps? (Of course I may be way off)
I ask because your earlier mistake about Peter/Paul and now your statement here in response to Rekin makes it seem that you may not have the best knowledge of the Bible.
In this case, Rekin is talking about the story of Moses/Joshua and the Hebrews being freed from Egypt and then invading the land of Canan, all done under direct orders of God.
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