Sam Gear Lvl 99

TP:


maybe I missed out :this

Or this

From the SE post about the update looks like Tenryu tekko can get augmented with DA, so yeah they're probably going to be the best tp hand piece

Think you're missing the sword strap. Unless I'm derping you'd get 16.6 from ws and 21.1 on TP hit.

Edit: Just woke up when I posted this, kinda confused by what you said. Guess what you're saying is using hagenia stone in ws and mala during tp will out perform my original set? Though some of the values you said differ slightly from mine.

Edit 2: Guess you could just use Misuuchi Kappa and Ganesha's Mala so you don't have to WS in Hagenia.

I was wondering how this set would do assuming you don't need any accuracy.



Need 8 Store TP in WS not including Rose Strap.

Any potential or is AF3+2 body too good to replace?

i could be wrong but doing some quick math your at 44 stp in ws gear which is 20.4 a hit so 81.6 for 4 swings.

With 8 more stp in ws set with the 4 from rose strap thats 12 stp so 16.8 for fudo, 18.3 for shoha leaving you short of a 5 hit build either way.

I have 48 STP in there. Not 44.

sorry i caught my mistake i thought your neck was -4 store tp

Masamune (90)
Rose Strap
Hagneia Stone
Phorcys
Ganesha
Brutal
Unkai
Unkai +2
Brego
Rajas
Tyrant
Misuuchi Kappa
Bullwhip
Unkai +2
Ace's


Comes out better

Just wondered, like every set ive seen has Unkai Haidate +2, are they pretty much optimal for TPing?

what about in haste + embrava situations?

how do Phorcys Dirs compare?

Pretty hard to beat.
8str/dex 7stp 4 haste and 25/1024 JA haste with Hasso up.

43.3% Magic
25% gear

You need 11.7% JA to cap, so these pants cap SAM with Haste+Embrava

Since the murasamamaru-thread has been revived the other day, I went over gear-sets again and played around with options.

Now, that GK isn't really the best, in terms of gearing it for the low delay, if you're trying to apply a certain x-hit build.
So, I actually went and played around with the latest DPS-spreadsheet, to see even small differences.

Everything seemed to add up to the common belief about what is rather optimal right now, except that I got Atheling as the best Shoha-back with a number of gear-variations.

I kind of thought Unkai to be the most valid option for pretty much every scenario.

I used settings for outside-Aby, with minmal buffs (zerk, aggressor, haste, mainly), took the Qilin settings from the spreadsheet and tried to see if results with increased ACC and ATT (by adding food-buffs) would change.

Has anyone have experienced the same?
Or is it just due to the way the spreadsheet is "emulating" potential dmg-output?

Atheling has always been ahead for Shoha, sometimes slightly, sometimes largely.

Another thing to remember is Shoha's attack bonus only applies to the first hit (according to JP testing)

Cool beans, thanks.

Well it's not like the unkai back doesn't have 18 or so attack on it... So it's not like the unkai back sucks. I use it and I have atheling too. But I also use Windbuffet Belt. It's fun to get an occasional quad proc in lol.

Speaking of Windbuffet, when I played around with the spreadsheet, it always became quite apparent when there was a slight accuracy-issue, when it comes to belt-options.

As soon as hitrate wasn't capped, ele belt was the better one.
Of course this is known already.

But what I asked myself was, whether Windbuffet would be worth using on most VW fights (maybe starting at T6 and above).
Even though, without food and other acc buffs, I came out 93% on Qilin already too.

Going by that, I'd rather stick to ele belt for most higher things, generally speaking, and bust out Windbuffet only against "fodder-stuff" solely.
Not sure how often acc will be capped, considering Shoha being multihit too.

just wondering what peoples opinion towards these two set.


Vs

2nd set

this is pretty much what i'm aiming for, except i have amano so i should be ok in most situations, though i'll have a seperate tp set macro for when i need accuracy to use af3+2 body

already got porthos body....someone make ogiers hands drop plz -.-;

I hate to be that guy. But between taking random breaks here and there, and just plain forgetting... My quest towards a Rose Strap had proved frivolous. Any sets for Masa for those without Rose Strap? I am obviously working towards it. But I need a solid set in the mean time.

No point in that set...its only better then the top AF3+2 set when Hasso/Seigan are down and acc is capped. Which should be just about never. Porthos body is a town gear piece.



Should be your goal set.

Technically it should incorporate a Pho's +1 if it's a goal set :P

i'm not following lol. zanshin on af3+2 body is +10, with zanhasso procs thats +2.5 proc increase, and since you should already have ~15% zanhasso rate its not that big of an increase/loss for swapping out 2% TA

i thought that porthos would be better (even though it seems like they would cancel each other out, other than the accuracy factor) but since zanhasso proc's last, i just thought TA would be > than zanshin.

inb4 i missed this discussion earlier in the thread lol.

Taint = law

lol i actually agree, taint usually is right with almost every single piece of advice he gives, but i was just looking for some clarity in how he got to the idea of porthos = towngear onry.

not really tying to argue, just looking for answers :o

Question for the "Law" or anyone else good with numbers. Phorcys body + hands for kaiten/shoha beat heafoc mitts?

i'm pretty confident that would be the best combo in most situations.

basically comparing extra 2str (heafoc) vs 15atk 2DA (phorcys mitts w/ setbonus +2str)

My spreadsheet says:

Phorcys body + hands > Ace's + Heafoc

For both Shoha and Kaiten.

Dead on.

wry you no answer my question!



you shouldn't need to look at a spreadsheet to see if phorcys is better than ace's.... D: