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Sam gear lvl 99
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-19 09:32:52
Is Mekira+1 better than Shura+3WSDMG? Or Twilight w/15AGI for that matter? Also, you can augment Shuralegs+1 to 6AGI/7RACC/base6STR and those are 2/4 of the common augments.
Ogier's legs (I did 300 augments on my shura+1 legs just to find out Ogier's beats it lol)
Shura+1(WSdmg3%) head, i have SC bonus 3% on my head as well which is really nice for Namas spam.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-19 09:34:55
but having to WS a mob when its left at sub 5% because quints DoT is basically non existent gets old fast.
The whole point of Namas spam is to spam it, 5% or 50% its spam spam spam. Quint > GKT unfortunately unless you need the ACC in which case you shouldn't use spamming Namas. :p
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-19 09:42:06
Yeah those too, /forgot
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-03-19 09:56:07
Is Mekira+1 better than Shura+3WSDMG? Or Twilight w/15AGI for that matter? Also, you can augment Shuralegs+1 to 6AGI/7RACC/base6STR and those are 2/4 of the common augments. Ogier's legs (I did 300 augments on my shura+1 legs just to find out Ogier's beats it lol) Shura+1(WSdmg3%) head, i have SC bonus 3% on my head as well which is really nice for Namas spam.
Wait; we're talking for Namas, right? Ogier's > Hachiryu or Augmented Shura? Just for the WS%+?
Huh.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2012-03-19 09:58:32
Is Mekira+1 better than Shura+3WSDMG? Or Twilight w/15AGI for that matter?
Also, you can augment Shuralegs+1 to 6AGI/7RACC/base6STR and those are 2/4 of the common augments.
Not totally convinced the 6agi and 7Racc is worth loosing 4 str, but worth looking into for sure.
The whole point of Namas spam is to spam it, 5% or 50% its spam spam spam. Quint > GKT unfortunately unless you need the ACC in which case you shouldn't use spamming Namas. :p
From napkin math's (i'm probably wrong lol) My ws frequency shouldn't decrease by much.
edit: Does anyone know for sure the % split on "occ attacks x" weapons? I remember seeing a breakdown of Kclub but i am having a hard time finding breakdowns for quint and OA4's
edit2: OA4 looks like 40/30/20/10, havent found quint yet.
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-19 10:44:33
Is Mekira+1 better than Shura+3WSDMG? Or Twilight w/15AGI for that matter? Also, you can augment Shuralegs+1 to 6AGI/7RACC/base6STR and those are 2/4 of the common augments. Ogier's legs (I did 300 augments on my shura+1 legs just to find out Ogier's beats it lol) Shura+1(WSdmg3%) head, i have SC bonus 3% on my head as well which is really nice for Namas spam. Wait; we're talking for Namas, right? Ogier's > Hachiryu or Augmented Shura? Just for the WS%+? Huh.
Head = Shura+1
Legs = Ogier
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-03-19 10:52:46
Is Mekira+1 better than Shura+3WSDMG? Or Twilight w/15AGI for that matter? Also, you can augment Shuralegs+1 to 6AGI/7RACC/base6STR and those are 2/4 of the common augments. Ogier's legs (I did 300 augments on my shura+1 legs just to find out Ogier's beats it lol) Shura+1(WSdmg3%) head, i have SC bonus 3% on my head as well which is really nice for Namas spam. Wait; we're talking for Namas, right? Ogier's > Hachiryu or Augmented Shura? Just for the WS%+? Huh. Head = Shura+1 Legs = Ogier
I just figured the damage on Namas would be low enough that 6 STR/6 AGI or 10 STR would beat the 3%. Hey, works for me. I already have the 6 AGI Shura+1 pants, but have Ogier's too, so either way...now I just need to get cracking on the Kabuto+1. Have like 40 tatters hanging out, just have been so lazy about acquiring abjs from sky again to make HQs. Made NQs back in the day when HQs were crazy unrealistic and never looked back until this augment nonsense. ._.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-19 11:08:45
Is Mekira+1 better than Shura+3WSDMG? Or Twilight w/15AGI for that matter? Also, you can augment Shuralegs+1 to 6AGI/7RACC/base6STR and those are 2/4 of the common augments. Ogier's legs (I did 300 augments on my shura+1 legs just to find out Ogier's beats it lol) Shura+1(WSdmg3%) head, i have SC bonus 3% on my head as well which is really nice for Namas spam. Wait; we're talking for Namas, right? Ogier's > Hachiryu or Augmented Shura? Just for the WS%+? Huh. Head = Shura+1 Legs = Ogier I just figured the damage on Namas would be low enough that 6 STR/6 AGI or 10 STR would beat the 3%. Hey, works for me. I already have the 6 AGI Shura+1 pants, but have Ogier's too, so either way...now I just need to get cracking on the Kabuto+1. Have like 40 tatters hanging out, just have been so lazy about acquiring abjs from sky again to make HQs. Made NQs back in the day when HQs were crazy unrealistic and never looked back until this augment nonsense. ._.
If the damage is low enough the 3% from Ogier's isn't winning you shouldn't be using Namas. Its a good rule of thumb.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-03-19 11:13:19
Fair enough.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2012-03-19 11:41:18
played with numbers and found a few good posts about ao4 vs quint and found these
5hit quint
forces namas to look something like
thoughts?
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By Fenrir.Kingminamoto 2012-03-29 14:46:55
i have a Q about keeping 5 hit for ws set. would it require to ws in rajas + AF3 legs for kaiten an shoha to keep 5?
TP
Kaiten
Shoha
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2012-03-29 15:25:37
TP and Shoha sets look fine. For Kaiten you do need more STP - and the use of Rajas Ring, I would swap Thew for Hagneia personally, then you are golden.
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By Asura.Ccl 2012-03-29 18:11:59
Finished amano not long ago, this is what I currently (plan to) use, any idea how I could improve it ?
tpam down (unkai+2 and brego glove when accuracy is needed)
tp am up (unkai+2 body when accu needed ect)
replace tyrant with oneiros ring and misuu with atheling gotta fix set but lazy !
Kaiten(justiciar/beir+1(unkai legs+2 when am down)) when needed
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Asura.Res
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By Asura.Res 2012-03-30 06:16:57
TP
Fudo
Shoha(only difference is the ele gorgets ;;)
any tips? i see alot of people swappin out ele gorget/belt for STR/ATK so i've been thinkin about grabbin a Beir+1/Justiciar's.
workin on gettin a moonshade earring aswell atm
also, as far a VW n atmacite, what do ya'll use or recommend? >.>; i've been using Persistence/Valiant and doing on average 2.5-3.5k on new vw
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-03-30 10:43:54
TP
Fudo
Shoha(only difference is the ele gorgets ;;)
any tips? i see alot of people swappin out ele gorget/belt for STR/ATK so i've been thinkin about grabbin a Beir+1/Justiciar's.
workin on gettin a moonshade earring aswell atm
also, as far a VW n atmacite, what do ya'll use or recommend? >.>; i've been using Persistence/Valiant and doing on average 2.5-3.5k on new vw Beir and Justiciar's for Fudo. Use windbuffet on Shoha when acc is capped.
I don't really remember the name of the atmacites, but I've always used coercion and discipline I believe, (regain and save tp)
The past 2 sets posted before yours are also good examples to follow. Obviously ignoring AM sets.
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By Bismarck.Lilkevin 2012-03-30 10:48:16
Here is the TP set I am thinking I want to work for
capped haste and should be a proper 5-hit
How does this rank given the new gear options available after the most recent update?
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-03-30 11:12:54
Bismarck.Lilkevin said: »Here is the TP set I am thinking I want to work for
capped haste and should be a proper 5-hit
How does this rank given the new gear options available after the most recent update? Just threw these together.
TP:
Could use NQ Phos or Bullwhip to be a fraction away from capped haste.
WS:
Edit: Should be a 5hit and of course capped haste.
Your set was overshooting STP.
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-03-31 00:32:17
Didn't know where to post this, so i figured i'd post here instead of starting a new thread.
With the new Save TP nerf (not sure if its actually happened or not, not particularly on the know-how of the updates of late). What's the new setup for atmacites?
The obvious is Coersion, but which other ones will work best now?
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-03-31 00:36:26
I was unsure myself. Currently I'm using Latitude (50tp bonus, 3% haste, and some mnd) and Coercion. I use the extra haste to swap out bullwhip(taru hate hp-!). I was considering upgrading Ig's atma though. +10%hp,15 all stats, and 5 acc.
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-03-31 00:42:49
I think it might be worthwhile to get chaos/fighters rolls and just use the Save TP atmacite. certainly would save a lot of cruor =x
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-03-31 02:45:57
Well if you get Miser's roll the save tp atamcite they will stack with eachother. If you only have 1 of them on it's not worth using. It seems like a lot of effort to make sure you have both misers and atma on. Especially if you do PUGs and don't know your COR, or if you'll even get a COR, or get dispelled, or die and fall off roll rotation, etc...
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-03-31 06:09:21
I think it might be worthwhile to get chaos/fighters rolls and just use the Save TP atmacite. certainly would save a lot of cruor =x
Try to explain it to the 95% of corsair ingame , coercion/discipline chaos/fighter , so *** tired of cors doing tactician/miser's
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Asura.Yoyou
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-03-31 06:20:21
TP:
Could use NQ Phos or Bullwhip to be a fraction away from capped haste.
. Mala > Nodowa for a perfect 20.0, also Bullwhip is what a sam should use if you're not a taru
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-31 06:24:06
TP:
Could use NQ Phos or Bullwhip to be a fraction away from capped haste.
. Mala > Nodowa for a perfect 20.0, also Bullwhip is what a sam should use if you're not a taru why
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-31 06:27:12
People think 5hit means 20.0tp.
Seen it before -_-
Asura.Yoyou
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-03-31 07:12:04
TP:
Could use NQ Phos or Bullwhip to be a fraction away from capped haste.
. Mala > Nodowa for a perfect 20.0, also Bullwhip is what a sam should use if you're not a taru why
Forgot to account stp merits which is would bring you at 20.8 with mala 21.1 with nodowa.
So from his ws set 18.1 where both hits land 20.8x4=83.2 83.2+18.1=101.3
If shoha lands only the first hit 83.2+16.7 = 99.9 , so if you're afraid of ending up at 99,9 you can use hagneia during WS.
So yeah Mala fits in there.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-31 07:14:26
meant the belt.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-03-31 07:17:12
Because -50 to every elemental resistance and -75 HP is clearly superior to no negative side effects whatsoever.
Asura.Yoyou
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-03-31 07:23:44
-75HP hurst alot on top of being a taru and sitting at like 1460HP without food, so for me 6% haste belt > 1% haste -75HP, if you why is refered to the Phos Belt +1 I didn't metion it because is clear as the sky that SE made a decent haste belt for Sam and few other jobs being a T0 HQ.
Not so easy to spamm , unless you're sitting on milions of gils, as the NQ is probably going to cost atleast 5-6M, if you've the gil buy it just that. 7>6
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-03-31 07:25:06
4-5 mil is nothing these days. If it is, they likely are missing far more than a reasonable haste belt (I doubt someone who can't make 4-5m in a decent amount of time is getting floor 100 gear any time soon), and thus it doesn't matter what they're wearing on their waist until they correct more glaring issues.
Hell, I'd wager that in the time it takes to get a bullwhip belt you could get a good portion of the money necessary for an NQ phos.
Besides all of that, unless I'm missing something, we'd want to be targeting optimal gearsets, not the most convenient.
Hello, looking for some advice on gear sets for TP, Kaiten and Namas.
this is what i'm currently using
Thanks in advance
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