Blade Jin < Blade Shun ?? Please?..
Blade jin < blade shun ?? please?..
The value of the attack modifier at TP values above 100% is unknown, to my knowledge. I intended to test it at one point but don't really have the time or inclination to do so.
Ah I see cool thanks Night I could've sworn reading somewhere that the attk penalty went away at 200tp so some people were thinking of making a tp bonus Katana cant find it though anyways man thanks you think a WS dmg+10% would be decent off hand?
WSDMG Magian doesn't work offhand. TP Bonus does, but even if the penalty is negated at 200 TP you'd get more benefit out of a STR Arisui.
Yeah I figure you'd say that i'm just too cheap to spend like 1mil on geodes and um farming those are a pain
I using Kikoku main hand and as for off hand i have many but with shun and element gorget/belt("thunder" i use) on qilin it does average 2.2k with tonic it can spike to 3k im asuming some hits miss.
Nice man thanks maybe I should get off my *** and make a kikoku 2k sounds pretty good on a vwnm
Added Blade: Shun to nin spreadsheet. I put it at 8% innate penalty (can change that on the Other Lists worksheet), and +1% attack per 10 TP, giving a range of -8% (100 TP) to +12% (300 TP) attack bonus. Can adjust once more exact numbers are known for TP scaling.
I found this on BG wiki posted by Motenten how reliable is it? Hopefully nightfia will answer :x
Also these spreadsheet's I hear people talking about where do I download them at?
I found this on BG wiki posted by Motenten how reliable is it? Hopefully nightfia will answer :x
Also these spreadsheet's I hear people talking about where do I download them at?
I've done 1800 outside 3.5k inside with it. I don't think its a waste if you don't have emperian or relic.
Shiva.Bigslank said: »
I've done 1800 outside 3.5k inside with it. I don't think its a waste if you don't have emperian or relic.
Thanzo187 said: »
Added Blade: Shun to nin spreadsheet. I put it at 8% innate penalty (can change that on the Other Lists worksheet), and +1% attack per 10 TP, giving a range of -8% (100 TP) to +12% (300 TP) attack bonus. Can adjust once more exact numbers are known for TP scaling.
I found this on BG wiki posted by Motenten how reliable is it? Hopefully nightfia will answer :x
Also these spreadsheet's I hear people talking about where do I download them at?
I found this on BG wiki posted by Motenten how reliable is it? Hopefully nightfia will answer :x
Also these spreadsheet's I hear people talking about where do I download them at?
Gotcha what would I need to do in order to test it out myself and what not any programs or such that I would need to run? it would be stupid if it didnt get any kind of bonus from 200tp since according to the in game damage varies with tp.
Been testing it on birds in Misaurex same atmas as I would Jin RR apoc GH 2k constantly at 100tp and 4k at 300 yeah yeah why does everyone test it in abyssea :P I just finished meriting it 5/5 so yeah
Been testing it on birds in Misaurex same atmas as I would Jin RR apoc GH 2k constantly at 100tp and 4k at 300 yeah yeah why does everyone test it in abyssea :P I just finished meriting it 5/5 so yeah
Vixin said: »
I using Kikoku main hand and as for off hand i have many but with shun and element gorget/belt("thunder" i use) on qilin it does average 2.2k with tonic it can spike to 3k im asuming some hits miss.
Asura's nin are *** garbage compare to you. keep on spike up that number.
kinda curious how this would do and a few questions about changes
shura helm is augmented ws damage 3% 3dex 5attack consvere tp 5
1) would the 15 attack ammo > 4dex?
2) epona/brutal vs dex ring and earring
3) thaumas feet vs dilarams
shura helm is augmented ws damage 3% 3dex 5attack consvere tp 5
1) would the 15 attack ammo > 4dex?
2) epona/brutal vs dex ring and earring
3) thaumas feet vs dilarams
cool thanks man :D
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Vixin said: »
I using Kikoku main hand and as for off hand i have many but with shun and element gorget/belt("thunder" i use) on qilin it does average 2.2k with tonic it can spike to 3k im asuming some hits miss.
What atmacites are you using to get these "AVERAGES". Just curious. Currently using Valiant, Coercion, and Discipline. I don't remember what my numbers are on qilin.
With proper attack buffs and food it's fairly easy to hit those numbers with shun on Qilin, he's kinda squishy. :P
*edit* And a blade: shun set of course.
*edit* And a blade: shun set of course.
still no kannagi vs kikoku + shun comparisons?
beginning to think i should just halt my kikoku...
beginning to think i should just halt my kikoku...
Titan.Kongmingtwo said: »
still no kannagi vs kikoku + shun comparisons?
beginning to think i should just halt my kikoku...
beginning to think i should just halt my kikoku...
very wise choice
Asura.Hotsoups said: »
With proper attack buffs and food it's fairly easy to hit those numbers with shun on Qilin, he's kinda squishy. :P
*edit* And a blade: shun set of course.
*edit* And a blade: shun set of course.
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Ramuh.Yarly said: »
Titan.Kongmingtwo said: »
still no kannagi vs kikoku + shun comparisons?
beginning to think i should just halt my kikoku...
beginning to think i should just halt my kikoku...
very wise choice
Yeah... I'm having a hard time with it if kikoku+shun isn't gonna be better than kannagi+hi.
It would also solve my current problem of wanting 4 merit ws, as I could just drop shun for exenterator, and keep GSD and GKT. And build a mandau instead...
Hard to stomach since NIN was always my main =(
Anecdotally, there's a Kikoku+Shun NIN on my server (hi, I know you're reading!) who consistently parses way higher than any other NIN I've ever seen in VW. I've read all of the Kikoku hate in these threads but when I saw this guy's performance, it was clear at least that, while Kannagi may still be better in the hands of an equally skilled player, Kikoku's definitely not bad.
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If you're just comparing Shun to Hi then Hi will most likely win in a landslide, but atk +35 and an always active ~13% chance to deal triple damage has to factor in too (Assuming 95 Kikoku). I wouldn't build a Kikoku myself, but I went with Mandau so I understand trophies.
Ragnarok.Gunit said: »
Asura.Hotsoups said: »
With proper attack buffs and food it's fairly easy to hit those numbers with shun on Qilin, he's kinda squishy. :P
*edit* And a blade: shun set of course.
*edit* And a blade: shun set of course.
I had to add that last bit because yes, some people do not gear swap. And then they say stuff like, "Why my weaponskill no do good damage?" xD
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i'll just finish this thread by posting Kikoku Seems to be used only by pros and Noobs seem to touch friendly empyreans since its noob friendly yay oh wait the game in 95% noobs soo it wouldn't matter if someone holding a kikoku because they wouldn't provide good data LOL
Caitsith.Bakura said: »
i'll just finish this thread by posting Kikoku Seems to be used only by pros and Noobs seem to touch friendly empyreans since its noob friendly yay oh wait the game in 95% noobs soo it wouldn't matter if someone holding a kikoku because they wouldn't provide good data LOL
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Caitsith.Bakura said: »
i'll just finish this thread by posting Kikoku Seems to be used only by pros and Noobs seem to touch friendly empyreans since its noob friendly yay oh wait the game in 95% noobs soo it wouldn't matter if someone holding a kikoku because they wouldn't provide good data LOL
That just made my head hurt. :|
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Sylph.Sagiaurex said: »
Caitsith.Bakura said: »
i'll just finish this thread by posting Kikoku Seems to be used only by pros and Noobs seem to touch friendly empyreans since its noob friendly yay oh wait the game in 95% noobs soo it wouldn't matter if someone holding a kikoku because they wouldn't provide good data LOL
That just made my head hurt. :|
Kaari said: »
Sylph.Sagiaurex said: »
Caitsith.Bakura said: »
i'll just finish this thread by posting Kikoku Seems to be used only by pros and Noobs seem to touch friendly empyreans since its noob friendly yay oh wait the game in 95% noobs soo it wouldn't matter if someone holding a kikoku because they wouldn't provide good data LOL
That just made my head hurt. :|
Finished a thread by necro'ing it.
mindblown.w/e
I just had a few questions regarding Blade: Shun; having not really played in quite awhile I'm a little behind so please excuse me, any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated ^..^
I know it's DEX based weapon skill, but is it also CRIT weapon skill as well and if it's worth having CRIT DMG/Rate?
What should I focus on for a stat build, I know DEX is main and probably good idea to add Attack as well? Like DEX>AttacK?>STR?
What would be the best offhand katana (95 Kikoku main hand), it seems STR/Attack katana would be best or is there better newer one?
Does double/triple attack gear affect it?
I know it's DEX based weapon skill, but is it also CRIT weapon skill as well and if it's worth having CRIT DMG/Rate?
What should I focus on for a stat build, I know DEX is main and probably good idea to add Attack as well? Like DEX>AttacK?>STR?
What would be the best offhand katana (95 Kikoku main hand), it seems STR/Attack katana would be best or is there better newer one?
Does double/triple attack gear affect it?
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