Blade jin < blade shun
Havent been able to find to much about blade shun was wondering if it will take over for blade jin or compete with hi maybe?
Blade Jin < Blade Shun ?? Please?..
Blade jin < blade shun ?? please?..
Pretty sure it'll beat Jin. Status vs Hi depends on the exact nature of the attack penalty at 100 TP (pretty sure there's still a penalty, though much reduced). I'm compiling my data from last night right now, so I can give you a better answer in 10-15 minutes.
Fenrir.Oxi said: »
Blade jin < blade shun
Havent been able to find to much about blade shun was wondering if it will take over for blade jin or compete with hi maybe?
Havent been able to find to much about blade shun was wondering if it will take over for blade jin or compete with hi maybe?
Beats out blade jin from what I remember reading. And I think you only use shun when OcDD is up or something. Night will make a post I'm sure in 2 seconds lol.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Pretty sure it'll beat Jin. Status vs Hi depends on the exact nature of the attack penalty at 100 TP (pretty sure there's still a penalty, though much reduced). I'm compiling my data from last night right now, so I can give you a better answer in 10-15 minutes.
LOL ^ see he even beat me too it.
The attack penalty is around 8% at 100 TP. A little less potent than I'd hoped, but it's still the best weaponskill for non-Kannagi users. I'd say Tobi is pretty outdated now bar Abyssea.
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So it's actually a bit better than it was before the recent "fix" to the attack penalty?
That's really good, considering that even before the Fix it was a really nice option for non-kannagi.
Even more reasons for me not to upgrade my Mozu into a Tobi now.
Can't wait to see where that level99 Katana that augments Utsusemi drops from.
That's really good, considering that even before the Fix it was a really nice option for non-kannagi.
Even more reasons for me not to upgrade my Mozu into a Tobi now.
Can't wait to see where that level99 Katana that augments Utsusemi drops from.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
The attack penalty is around 8% at 100 TP. A little less potent than I'd hoped, but it's still the best weaponskill for non-Kannagi users. I'd say Tobi is pretty outdated now bar Abyssea.
So, either go Kannagi or get a good Katana and merit the new WS, I suppose.
so it beats the level 60 weaponskill but is a bit weaker than the empyrean weaponskill, now if only SE could apply this logic to ALL of the other weaponskills... then we would be atleast making progress
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Any idea how a 95 Kikoku Blade: Shun would compare against a 90 Kannagi Blade: Hi?
Asura.Sechs said: »
Can't wait to see where that level99 Katana that augments Utsusemi drops from.
Wait....WHAT!?
Carbuncle.Grandthief said: »
considering new katanas with more base dmg being added
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Any idea how a 95 Kikoku Blade: Shun would compare against a 90 Kannagi Blade: Hi?
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Oh...boooooo lol though it might be large enough to counter the att- on shun? still dont know if im gonna merit it, but as i dont have a kannagi, i just might
The delay on it is horrible, unless it's a fairly large attack bonus it won't be worth it. Even then, if you're cycling shadows a lot the bonus will vary.
Well it's 17 more delay from the typical 210, doesn't seem too bad to me.
The good part about that katana is that it's Rare, supposing it won't be insanely rare, it could be a nice AH katana for lazy people, kinda like Ichi-an+1 was.
With 53 damage and DEX+5 it really doesn't sound that bad.
What else do you suggest, other than Firepath Katana?
I'm still using a lolhochomasamune...
The good part about that katana is that it's Rare, supposing it won't be insanely rare, it could be a nice AH katana for lazy people, kinda like Ichi-an+1 was.
With 53 damage and DEX+5 it really doesn't sound that bad.
What else do you suggest, other than Firepath Katana?
I'm still using a lolhochomasamune...
Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn said: »
so it beats the level 60 weaponskill but is a bit weaker than the empyrean weaponskill, now if only SE could apply this logic to ALL of the other weaponskills... then we would be atleast making progress
Asura.Kaisuko said: »
This is what I came up with on gear for Blade: Shun;
Low Attack Situation
High Attack Situation
Let me know if anything should be tweaked. :x
Low Attack Situation
High Attack Situation
Let me know if anything should be tweaked. :x
Maybe Bandomusha in place of AF+1?
Gorget/belt should always be used due to the fTP applying to all hits.
Also, reminder: 100% DEX mod. DEX is far more important than STR and you'll need quite a bit of attack in a slot for that to be better too.
This is the best currently existing set barring augments:
A very well augmented Shura Kabuto +1 with WSDMG+3% and a high amount of both attack and DEX can slightly edge out the Toci/Ocelomeh combo. At that point, Toci's is only very slightly ahead of Iga +2 but still generally superior. EDIT: set bonus wasn't working properly, Ocelomeh Headpiece +1 is king.
I'll update the set later once all the new gear is in the xiah database.
EDIT: Rings are augmented with attack if you didn't already guess.
Also, reminder: 100% DEX mod. DEX is far more important than STR and you'll need quite a bit of attack in a slot for that to be better too.
This is the best currently existing set barring augments:
I'll update the set later once all the new gear is in the xiah database.
EDIT: Rings are augmented with attack if you didn't already guess.
What about the MOG helm?
Worse than either option I mentioned for obvious reasons.
Pil needs to man up and start dropping me some stuff.
Night, opinion about Epona's, Bandomusha, Centaurus Earring and Usu legs? Decent "second choice" to go in place of what you posted?
Night, opinion about Epona's, Bandomusha, Centaurus Earring and Usu legs? Decent "second choice" to go in place of what you posted?
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I'm not completely familiar with the rings. How much attack can they get?
also about how much att would it take to be better than 1 dex? for this ws.
Asura.Kaisuko said: »
I'm not completely familiar with the rings. How much attack can they get?
Needs a lot of patience though, you've been warned :P
One last thing I suppose; Even in a low attack situation would it still be better off using the Set bonus over Gnadbhod's(edit: or better yet the shura kabuto augmented)?
What other Elemental Gorget/Belts would work for Shun? Hoping to get out of needing to make a Light Gorget.
Asura.Sechs said: »
Night, opinion about Epona's
Decent, 5-hit + offhand potentially limits the value of TA though.
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Bandomusha
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and Usu legs?
For secondary options... hm. Aias head, Iga +2 body, Iga +2 or now Koga +2 for feet. Rajas/Epona's is workable.
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
also about how much att would it take to be better than 1 dex? for this ws.
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So if you have kannagi... is shun even useful? I thought I remember reading it can beat out hi in situations. What situations idk honestly
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